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Old 18th Feb 2022, 12:10
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Ouch. So, either still under construction or inadequate tiedown boltings, either in size or number.

I feel sorry for anyone downwind of that lot, try to stay well away; flying sheets are especially deadly things!
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Could I make a request, please, EngO? Would you consider adding a quick note underneath what I presume is a Tw@tter quote, for those of us who don't use soshul meejah, so that we can get the gist of what you're reporting? Otherwise we just see a completely blank message.
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Originally Posted by Thud_and_Blunder
Could I make a request, please, EngO? Would you consider adding a quick note underneath what I presume is a Tw@tter quote, for those of us who don't use soshul meejah, so that we can get the gist of what you're reporting? Otherwise we just see a completely blank message.
It's embedded in the post so should show regardless (I don't use Twitter). Maybe a browser issue (works fine on Chrome both laptop and mobile for me).
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Ouch. So, either still under construction or inadequate tiedown boltings, either in size or number.

I feel sorry for anyone downwind of that lot, try to stay well away; flying sheets are especially deadly things!
To be fair, some of the gust speeds being quoted around the SW and SE today, are borderline close to the 1 in a 100 year max design wind speed for new building design in the UK, although equally you'd still not expect to see roof sheeting flying off like this...........although that roof shape could be creating some interesting local effects up there!!
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Wouldn't be surprised is some of the newish roofs at Lyneham took off as well.
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A400 question….do they have to be turned out of the wind like the herc used to in the Falklands?
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Wouldn't be surprised is some of the newish roofs at Lyneham took off as well.
The DH Venom that was mounted up on a curved pole outside the airfield fence of Grove airfield made a bid at a take-off again, and is now a crumpled wreck on the ground.....

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I’m sure the design and construction contract represented excellent value for money…..

Much like the O2 I guess…🤭
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Judging by the amount of FOD shown drifting across the airfield, they are going to need a sh*t load of 12 inch rulers to put in all the FOD found photos for February.
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Originally Posted by GeeRam
To be fair, some of the gust speeds being quoted around the SW and SE today, are borderline close to the 1 in a 100 year max design wind speed for new building design in the UK, although equally you'd still not expect to see roof sheeting flying off like this...........although that roof shape could be creating some interesting local effects up there!!
Yes, that is likely to be near the expected 100year storm limit speed - up North I think some of those limits have been increased somewhat. In some parts they even install ropes and wires to hold roofs down!
My wife also thought that that roof shape looked quite wing like; probably some good suction effects there.
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Originally Posted by GeeRam
The DH Venom that was mounted up on a curved pole outside the airfield fence of Grove airfield made a bid at a take-off again, and is now a crumpled wreck on the ground.....


from

https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-...-thanks-eunice
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Nice explanation of the challenges faced by pilots landing at Heathrow in such conditions on Sky right now.

Dumbed down by the meejah of course, an ex CAA Ops bloke Cpt Mike Vivian replies to the meejah presenters question “Oohhh, how scary is it landing those big planes in those treacherous and dangerous winds….”

to summarise ….it’s what pilots are trained for….

(and inferring, as we all know, it’s actually great fun)…






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Any aircraft would have been stuck nose into wind today if possible. My airline didn't bother flying into southern England today. A wise decision.
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O2 arena design life. 25 years. 90% there.
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Seeing some of the pilots write about their experience in such conditions in forums I see, they are not happy bunnies. Passengers do no like being bumped about. They don't go flying from A to B for that. It is not safe flying.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose

“Bit of speed tape, and a quick buff up and it’ll do a trip…just as well as Boris wants it to go to Estonia tomorrow”
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 14:49
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To be fair, some of the gust speeds being quoted around the SW and SE today, are borderline close to the 1 in a 100 year max design wind speed for new building design in the UK,
A concept that could shortly be a tad redundant. Lots of info online (from highly reputable sources) for those who wish to dig it up on "Extreme Event Attribution":

In the early 2000s, a new field of climate-science research emerged that began to explore the human fingerprint on extreme weather, such as floods, heatwaves, droughts and storms.
I've no wish to be either controversial or apocalyptic; I'm merely pointing out that today's extremes could soon becomes tomorrow's "normals". Being an old timer, I have the evidence of my own eyes to back up some of the stuff I look up and read. Seems to me our weather patterns are changing and the available literature is ever-more convincing.

I'm neither qualified nor sufficiently peremptory to pontificate from a climate-change pulpit, but one likes to be a little open-minded when the future of the planet is at stake. Or, if not quite that, then at least the future of my roof
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Does that hangar belong to the govt or is it owned by the training / support PFI (or is it a PPP!)?
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 15:19
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Several comments about the shape of the roof, and I agree with them. Perhaps architects should study Bernoulli.
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