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RAFEngO74to09 18th Feb 2022 12:10

Storm Damage - RAF Brize Norton
 

biscuit74 18th Feb 2022 13:07

Ouch. So, either still under construction or inadequate tiedown boltings, either in size or number.

I feel sorry for anyone downwind of that lot, try to stay well away; flying sheets are especially deadly things!

Thud_and_Blunder 18th Feb 2022 13:19

Could I make a request, please, EngO? Would you consider adding a quick note underneath what I presume is a Tw@tter quote, for those of us who don't use soshul meejah, so that we can get the gist of what you're reporting? Otherwise we just see a completely blank message.

trim it out 18th Feb 2022 13:23


Originally Posted by Thud_and_Blunder (Post 11186132)
Could I make a request, please, EngO? Would you consider adding a quick note underneath what I presume is a Tw@tter quote, for those of us who don't use soshul meejah, so that we can get the gist of what you're reporting? Otherwise we just see a completely blank message.

It's embedded in the post so should show regardless (I don't use Twitter). Maybe a browser issue (works fine on Chrome both laptop and mobile for me).

GeeRam 18th Feb 2022 13:24


Originally Posted by biscuit74 (Post 11186122)
Ouch. So, either still under construction or inadequate tiedown boltings, either in size or number.

I feel sorry for anyone downwind of that lot, try to stay well away; flying sheets are especially deadly things!

To be fair, some of the gust speeds being quoted around the SW and SE today, are borderline close to the 1 in a 100 year max design wind speed for new building design in the UK, although equally you'd still not expect to see roof sheeting flying off like this...........although that roof shape could be creating some interesting local effects up there!!

Always a Sapper 18th Feb 2022 13:32

Wouldn't be surprised is some of the newish roofs at Lyneham took off as well.

sangiovese. 18th Feb 2022 13:36

A400 question….do they have to be turned out of the wind like the herc used to in the Falklands?

GeeRam 18th Feb 2022 13:41


Originally Posted by Always a Sapper (Post 11186138)
Wouldn't be surprised is some of the newish roofs at Lyneham took off as well.

The DH Venom that was mounted up on a curved pole outside the airfield fence of Grove airfield made a bid at a take-off again, and is now a crumpled wreck on the ground.....


oldmansquipper 18th Feb 2022 13:58

I’m sure the design and construction contract represented excellent value for money…..

Much like the O2 I guess…🤭

NutLoose 18th Feb 2022 14:00

Judging by the amount of FOD shown drifting across the airfield, they are going to need a sh*t load of 12 inch rulers to put in all the FOD found photos for February. :E

biscuit74 18th Feb 2022 14:02


Originally Posted by GeeRam (Post 11186135)
To be fair, some of the gust speeds being quoted around the SW and SE today, are borderline close to the 1 in a 100 year max design wind speed for new building design in the UK, although equally you'd still not expect to see roof sheeting flying off like this...........although that roof shape could be creating some interesting local effects up there!!

Yes, that is likely to be near the expected 100year storm limit speed - up North I think some of those limits have been increased somewhat. In some parts they even install ropes and wires to hold roofs down!
My wife also thought that that roof shape looked quite wing like; probably some good suction effects there.

NutLoose 18th Feb 2022 14:03


Originally Posted by GeeRam (Post 11186145)
The DH Venom that was mounted up on a curved pole outside the airfield fence of Grove airfield made a bid at a take-off again, and is now a crumpled wreck on the ground.....

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....819367e50a.jpg

:( from

https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-...-thanks-eunice

oldmansquipper 18th Feb 2022 14:32

Nice explanation of the challenges faced by pilots landing at Heathrow in such conditions on Sky right now.

Dumbed down by the meejah of course, an ex CAA Ops bloke Cpt Mike Vivian replies to the meejah presenters question “Oohhh, how scary is it landing those big planes in those treacherous and dangerous winds….”

to summarise ….it’s what pilots are trained for….

(and inferring, as we all know, it’s actually great fun)…







Cat Techie 18th Feb 2022 14:42

Any aircraft would have been stuck nose into wind today if possible. My airline didn't bother flying into southern England today. A wise decision.

Cat Techie 18th Feb 2022 14:43

O2 arena design life. 25 years. 90% there.

Cat Techie 18th Feb 2022 14:46

Seeing some of the pilots write about their experience in such conditions in forums I see, they are not happy bunnies. Passengers do no like being bumped about. They don't go flying from A to B for that. It is not safe flying.

oldmansquipper 18th Feb 2022 14:46


“Bit of speed tape, and a quick buff up and it’ll do a trip…just as well as Boris wants it to go to Estonia tomorrow”

Richard Dangle 18th Feb 2022 14:49


To be fair, some of the gust speeds being quoted around the SW and SE today, are borderline close to the 1 in a 100 year max design wind speed for new building design in the UK,
A concept that could shortly be a tad redundant. Lots of info online (from highly reputable sources) for those who wish to dig it up on "Extreme Event Attribution":


In the early 2000s, a new field of climate-science research emerged that began to explore the human fingerprint on extreme weather, such as floods, heatwaves, droughts and storms.
I've no wish to be either controversial or apocalyptic; I'm merely pointing out that today's extremes could soon becomes tomorrow's "normals". Being an old timer, I have the evidence of my own eyes to back up some of the stuff I look up and read. Seems to me our weather patterns are changing and the available literature is ever-more convincing.

I'm neither qualified nor sufficiently peremptory to pontificate from a climate-change pulpit, but one likes to be a little open-minded when the future of the planet is at stake. Or, if not quite that, then at least the future of my roof :)

Timelord 18th Feb 2022 15:02

Does that hangar belong to the govt or is it owned by the training / support PFI (or is it a PPP!)?

Herod 18th Feb 2022 15:19

Several comments about the shape of the roof, and I agree with them. Perhaps architects should study Bernoulli.


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