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Old 18th Feb 2022, 15:36
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Could I make a request, please, EngO? Would you consider adding a quick note underneath what I presume is a Tw@tter quote, for those of us who don't use soshul meejah, so that we can get the gist of what you're reporting? Otherwise we just see a completely blank message.
I started a thread on this issue in the PPRuNe Problems or Queries forum Posted links to Twitter not visible in Firefox8 the issue seems to be linked to cookie/tracker settings. If you right click and select View Page Source you can then search for the relevant post and find the twitter url.

I expect the landings of ZEUS51 and the other BUFF made interesting viewing.

Naturally my thoughts are with those being thrown about by the sea not necessarily dangerous but definitely unpleasant.

The EGLL footage reminds me of flying into ENTO as SLF courtesy of Michael O’Leary, my hands being crushed by my wife on one side and a young Norwegian women on the other, with the aircraft pointing an average 45°+ away from the centreline with fairly violent motion around all three axes, quick turn to align and smooth landing - what's was all the fuss - a professional doing his job.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 16:10
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And meanwhile I assume Base Hangar sails serenly on....... (with an intact roof!!)
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Reports of a 122 mph gust on the IOW. A new record for England.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 16:38
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Nice explanation of the challenges faced by pilots landing at Heathrow…

(and inferring, as we all know, it’s actually great fun)…
Yeah, no pissing about with a flare…
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 16:48
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It's got a gappy end to allow for the doors to be opened, strange design.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 17:11
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Talking of Base Hangar. I was there for the 87 storm and remember a 12 foot scaffold plank got blown off the roof and went "end on" through the soft top roof of a TR7 and destroyed the drivers seat. The Cpl had only parked it there 5 mins before.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 17:34
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SLXOwft, many thanks - wasn't aware it was a problem, didn't know of your thread and don't use Firefox... but it obvs applies to other browsers too (Brave, in this instance). Followed yr advice, found 5287 lines of code, did a Ctrl-F for the website name and found the linky on about the 5th or 6th out of 14 mentions. Tbh, life's just too short - I'll just ignore these posts in the future. Many thanks for taking the time to explain.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 17:35
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Wind extremes. affecting UK.

I started my Met. career in 1955. Round about 20 years later I began to suspect the N hemisphere Highs were getting higher, and Atlantic Lows getting deeper [if true, more spaghetti, so more wind].
In those days Daily Weather Reports [DWRs] were published for us by in-house HMSO, and were available for yonks backwards. Thus a simple project, take a few 5 deg Lat by 5 Deg long Atlantic boxes, and note the lowest pressure in each box each day [Highs are less exciting so I did no research on them]. Not rocket science, and I oversimplify somewhat]

There was a definite trend over 20 years or so ....... once upon a time a depression of lower then 960mb excited comment, but there appeared to be more and more in the 950s as time went on.
I never finished the project because promotions and postings led me upwards and sideways away from the source of DWRs and I think they ceased to be printed.

So, no conclusions, just suspicions. If the Highs merely maintained their old high values, more isobars, more wind would result.

I bet current aviators glancing at an Atlantic chart would not blink at a 950 mb low: when I were a lad they seemed remarkable!

In passing, Eunice's Low was not very low at all, just lots of isobars.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 17:48
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Originally Posted by Thud_and_Blunder
SLXOwft, many thanks - wasn't aware it was a problem, didn't know of your thread and don't use Firefox... but it obvs applies to other browsers too (Brave, in this instance). Followed yr advice, found 5287 lines of code, did a Ctrl-F for the website name and found the linky on about the 5th or 6th out of 14 mentions. Tbh, life's just too short - I'll just ignore these posts in the future. Many thanks for taking the time to explain.
just quote the thread as in a reply, it shows the link, then copy and paste… simple
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 17:52
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Nutty - the engineer's approach is, as usual, practical and effective.

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Old 18th Feb 2022, 17:53
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Basic aerodynamics ‘innit…


Maybe all officers need to be Pilots, or at least Aircrew again?
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 17:57
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Thud and blunder link here

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/wind...-brize-norton/

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Old 18th Feb 2022, 18:03
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At least the hangar is at the eastern end of Brize so the debris blows away from the aircraft.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 18:25
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Is that really correct... £70 million for an aeroplane shed ??
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 19:01
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Three sheds in one, plus offices and a damned great big concrete apron, plus probably all the junk inside for the aircraft.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 19:06
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Three sheds in one, plus offices and a damned great big concrete apron, plus probably all the junk inside for the aircraft.
Indeed.....in fact £70m sounds a bit cheap, as the then new BA Maintenance hangar built at Cardiff cost £70m, and that was 30 years ago!!

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Old 18th Feb 2022, 20:39
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When the roof peeled off Alpha Hangar at Waddington a couple of decades ago, it was blamed on the roof being shaped like the upper surface of an aerofoil. Who says doing 'Lessons Learned' events are a waste if time?
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 20:45
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GeeRam,

Maybe they saved money on something like ……the roof?
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For those having problems with Twitter, video is now on Youtube courtesy of UK Defence Journal.
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