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INCIDENT AT VALLEY

Old 20th Mar 2018, 18:34
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Valley Staish just been on the news. Pilot in hospital, engineer fatally injured.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 18:34
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Originally Posted by CrabInCab
Have you got a source for that H?
MOD has confirmed pilot survived, ground engineer did not according to news sources:


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Old 20th Mar 2018, 18:37
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Seen it reported by BBC Wales - not a happy day.

Per Ardua and RIP.
Someone open the ground crew bar and write a couple of barrels off in the best liney tradition
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 18:44
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My sincere condolences go the family and friends of the poor guy who lost his life today in this tragic incident, my thoughts are also with the pilot and his family and i wish him a successful and rapid recovery.



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Old 20th Mar 2018, 18:53
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I wonder if the observed 'loop' was a cct / PFL! The wreckage appears to have ended up close to the caravan/threshold.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 19:00
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Wreckage shows front seat gun fired, rear did not.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 19:03
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Tragic accident. RIP.

The C.O. of Valley appears in a video recording here reading a statement which includes a request by the family of the Engineer for a 24 hour news black-out.

Red Arrows engineer killed in RAF Valley jet crash - BBC News
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 19:18
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...es-raf-valley/
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 19:57
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Originally Posted by STENDEC North
Wreckage shows front seat gun fired, rear did not.
No command ejection.

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Old 20th Mar 2018, 20:08
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Originally Posted by Distant Voice
No command ejection.

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I assume you mean that command ejection wasn’t selected to ‘on’?

RIP, Per Ardua Ad Astra.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 20:09
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Originally Posted by Pure Pursuit
I assume you mean that command ejection wasn’t selected to ‘on’?

RIP, Per Ardua Ad Astra.
Is Command Eject even an option for the front seater?
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 20:31
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It's a bit soon for pet theories and causes and what I think happened is...... Etc

How about we give the fallen a little respect - if you want to pontificate then PM each other, as the rest of us don't want to hear it right now

Let's look after family of the Fallen and help the pilot mend - spare a thought for him too eh.... He's lost his pax, and that is going to hurt a hell of a lot....

May the Liney Sunshine be thick and the beer cold, Godspeed
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 21:07
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Originally Posted by Distant Voice
No command ejection.

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Correct, I was implying that the rear seat wasn't fired.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 21:12
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Hawk command eject is either back-commands-front or off. The back seater always has to pull his handle.

I recall the TWU Hawk turnback accident many years ago where the CC held fully back could well have limited access to the non-handler's SPFH.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 22:03
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Condolences to everyone involved with this Reds and the Blues and especially to the family of the Engineer who lost his life today.
RIP
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 22:47
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Remember there are girls as well as boys in the Circus and amongst the Blues. The MOD have made no reference yet to specify 'him' or 'her'.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 22:55
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
My sincere condolences go the family and friends of the poor guy who lost his life today in this tragic incident, my thoughts are also with the pilot and his family and i wish him a successful and rapid recovery.



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Absolutely. That's the important bit.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 22:56
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Awful news, especially as it being one of the circus, one of my kind. Ad Astra friend. The hardship is for us left behind.
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 01:59
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I appreciate its all very interesting for those of you who want to discuss the details of this incident, but like every other incident that quickly finds its way onto these pages - a little respect for the chap who lost his life today. Put yourself in the shoes of his wife, girlfriend or even his kids if he has any or whatever his personal situation was, not to mention those who knew him and worked with him, they have also lost loved one a and dad, a friend and college.

As someone else has pointed out the pilot is the one who got out, but lost his passenger, so I'm pretty sure he's not feeling too great either, so accord him the same respect.

Like many units the Red's are a close knit team and have suffered some tragic losses recently, this unfortunately adds to that, so allow them as a team time to grieve as well.

Bottom line - the family have asked for 24 hours to themselves before any notification is provided of names - so respect that and stop posting you opinions or suppositions about what may or may not have happened. If however, you cannot contain your inconsiderate desire to pontificate - do so via PMs and I'm sure those of us who have or are serving, especially anyone who served with either involved will tell you to politely 'go away'.

Per Ardua fella.

Nuff said!!!!
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 06:41
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Do they still carry an Engineer in the back?
Yes they do when away from Scampton for any amount of time. The pilot was at Valley for simulator training.
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