Why no royals in fast jets?
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Shortly after I left the mob, William passed through my old squadron, and that experience encouraged him to stick with the RAF as a rotary mate, when he could very well have opted to be a pongo or a fishhead. Good man. Many of my mates flew with him, and the feedback I received was that he was a thoroughly nice bloke and a very competent pilot. If he was crap, and only passed course because of who he was, then in private my mates would certainly have told me so. He has earned respect and I believe in the future the monarchy will be safe in his hands.
Hell of an experience that, TT2. Maybe lucky to be alive. God's speed for a good recovery. We can arrange Red Cross parcels with fags and beer if required. Send mailing address. Coded, of course.
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'Hell of an experience that, TT2'
Bit of a surprise like. Bangkok is certainly becoming riskier - and not just for foreign folks. 10-12 years ago if my ex missus was on a late shift I'd meet her outside work at 2200 and then we'd walk the couple of miles home across central Bangkok with no thought of risk. Did that for a couple of years with never a peep from anyone. I'd think twice about it now.Up this end of town there was a Scots lady murdered in a hand back snatch not so long ago, an increasing trend it appears.
I'm bored to tears - the telly is crap and one can only peer at a computer for so long every day. No bookshops around here selling English language publications that I can dispatch her off to. Off course all the bruising on my knees and arms has come out now so I reek of Hirudoid - I must have gone down like a sack of spuds judging by the dint's and dunts.
The guy doesn't have any money so I can't do the usual compensation claim and everything goes away - he'll get a couple of years.
It's money that's the problem - I can't get to the bank and there is no way in a month of Sundays that she will use my ATM cards - being caught doing that here is a really, really serious offence being as it is a world centre for card skimming. Catch you with another's card they bang you up first then you can hang around for two years on remand.
She doesn't earn enough for the rent, keep us both, pay the medical bills (They still want to poke around with me once a week) and look after her old Mum.
I don't even know any foreign folks here anymore, everyone I knew returned to their own countries a few years ago, a regular exodus for some reason and the Thais I knew are all dispersed these days.
And there's a lot of work needs done at the mo' , I've got a couple of nice potential pot boilers started but can't bloody well do anything about them at the moment as they involve travel. Anyone want to buy a share in an aircraft / helo military parts and OH business with 20 years experience here?
Bloody nuisance. And a worry as it appears I've got another couple of weeks before reasonable mobility is expected.
Next time I go out I'll take a rear gunner and body armour. Care packages would have to be in her name as it requires going to the post office for collection - Lao names are unpronouncable to normal folks anyway!.
Bit of a surprise like. Bangkok is certainly becoming riskier - and not just for foreign folks. 10-12 years ago if my ex missus was on a late shift I'd meet her outside work at 2200 and then we'd walk the couple of miles home across central Bangkok with no thought of risk. Did that for a couple of years with never a peep from anyone. I'd think twice about it now.Up this end of town there was a Scots lady murdered in a hand back snatch not so long ago, an increasing trend it appears.
I'm bored to tears - the telly is crap and one can only peer at a computer for so long every day. No bookshops around here selling English language publications that I can dispatch her off to. Off course all the bruising on my knees and arms has come out now so I reek of Hirudoid - I must have gone down like a sack of spuds judging by the dint's and dunts.
The guy doesn't have any money so I can't do the usual compensation claim and everything goes away - he'll get a couple of years.
It's money that's the problem - I can't get to the bank and there is no way in a month of Sundays that she will use my ATM cards - being caught doing that here is a really, really serious offence being as it is a world centre for card skimming. Catch you with another's card they bang you up first then you can hang around for two years on remand.
She doesn't earn enough for the rent, keep us both, pay the medical bills (They still want to poke around with me once a week) and look after her old Mum.
I don't even know any foreign folks here anymore, everyone I knew returned to their own countries a few years ago, a regular exodus for some reason and the Thais I knew are all dispersed these days.
And there's a lot of work needs done at the mo' , I've got a couple of nice potential pot boilers started but can't bloody well do anything about them at the moment as they involve travel. Anyone want to buy a share in an aircraft / helo military parts and OH business with 20 years experience here?
Bloody nuisance. And a worry as it appears I've got another couple of weeks before reasonable mobility is expected.
Next time I go out I'll take a rear gunner and body armour. Care packages would have to be in her name as it requires going to the post office for collection - Lao names are unpronouncable to normal folks anyway!.
As no-one has yet mentioned the cost of doing these favours for royals I will start it.
Andy, as the poor mans second choice, is not nearly as cared for as Charlie. He cost more or less the same as most other jockeys' training (plus the security bit) as nobody really cared if he survived or not and I'm sure his dad would have made sure he would have passed - if he actually did or not...
Young Charlie (being the royals 1st preferred item) was REEEEAAALLLLYY expensive to get as far as he did.
Almost every thing he touched in the RAF was half-lifed (meaning anything over half its normal life expectancy was removed and replaced with new or 1/4 lifed items. And every thing else was polished to within two thousandths of an Inch of its usefulness. (o.oo5mm to you youths)
A Vulcan was almost re-built to accommodate a single back seat ("I'd really like to go up in one of those") flight.
And the RAF probably sighed a BIG sigh when the Fish-heads eventually got him on their books.
So the answer to the OP probably is...
The RAF couldn't afford (even then) to put Royals in Fast Jets and also couldn't afford the RISK of putting a 1st born in one regularly.
Andy, as the poor mans second choice, is not nearly as cared for as Charlie. He cost more or less the same as most other jockeys' training (plus the security bit) as nobody really cared if he survived or not and I'm sure his dad would have made sure he would have passed - if he actually did or not...
Young Charlie (being the royals 1st preferred item) was REEEEAAALLLLYY expensive to get as far as he did.
Almost every thing he touched in the RAF was half-lifed (meaning anything over half its normal life expectancy was removed and replaced with new or 1/4 lifed items. And every thing else was polished to within two thousandths of an Inch of its usefulness. (o.oo5mm to you youths)
A Vulcan was almost re-built to accommodate a single back seat ("I'd really like to go up in one of those") flight.
And the RAF probably sighed a BIG sigh when the Fish-heads eventually got him on their books.
So the answer to the OP probably is...
The RAF couldn't afford (even then) to put Royals in Fast Jets and also couldn't afford the RISK of putting a 1st born in one regularly.
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So does that mean:
you have met SASless personally and have spoken to him for a time
or
that "I think SASless has revealed his true character at last" was not an adverse comment?
I've met him twice. On the second occasion I spent an entire day with him, first flying together for a few hours ( http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/184...ml#post2154972) and then spending the evening 'putting the world to rights' over a curry and a drink or two.
He is enjoyable and very interesting company. He's lived and worked (flying helicopters) in several different countries (including two Chinook combat tours in Vietnam) and also has a degree in political science or similar. We had very interesting discussions about politics and world affairs. Sometimes we agreed and sometimes we disagreed - very strongly about some topics; disagreeing just added to the enjoyment.
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I think that ANY adverse comments about somebody you have never personally met & spoken to for any time is totally out of order.
you have met SASless personally and have spoken to him for a time
or
that "I think SASless has revealed his true character at last" was not an adverse comment?
I've met him twice. On the second occasion I spent an entire day with him, first flying together for a few hours ( http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/184...ml#post2154972) and then spending the evening 'putting the world to rights' over a curry and a drink or two.
He is enjoyable and very interesting company. He's lived and worked (flying helicopters) in several different countries (including two Chinook combat tours in Vietnam) and also has a degree in political science or similar. We had very interesting discussions about politics and world affairs. Sometimes we agreed and sometimes we disagreed - very strongly about some topics; disagreeing just added to the enjoyment.
FL
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Good bloke SASless may be, but he has still shown himself on this thread to be also tactless, arrogant and provocative. With his extensive experience and education one might expect him to act with a bit more common sense and courtesy.
A Vulcan was almost re-built to accommodate a single back seat ("I'd really like to go up in one of those") flight.
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It may be a difference of culture.
Most Americans are not offended by discourteous comments about their head of state (whether made by fellow Americans or foreigners) so they don't understand why many (not all) Brits should be offended by discourteous comments about the Royal family.
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It may be a difference of culture.
Most Americans are not offended by discourteous comments about their head of state (whether made by fellow Americans or foreigners) so they don't understand why many (not all) Brits should be offended by discourteous comments about the Royal family.
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I don't believe I have met Sammy or Courtney.....although i may have met their Nice Twin at some point.
CM....provocative works.....judging by some of the responses! Almost like fishing it is!
We absolutely do not object to folks criticizing our current President who seems to imagine himself to be a "King" in the way he acts.
Certainly the Royals must be a bit envious at his Airplane and helicopters although the Yacht has been sold off and thus cannot compete their Canoe.
Now that it was mentioned.....Jug's views on Global Warming is another topic that does not engender warmness.....poor choice of words I know.
Can someone tell me just what Jug Ears does for a living? Does the Man have any sort of gainful employ? Does he do the Royal Books, arrange Mum's flowers or something?
FL.....all that and you bought dinner as I recall.....I am purely blessed. For a while I thought you would spear me with the butter knife that night when we got around to guns and mayhem.
I will get the Tenner in the Post for that ringing endorsement.
CM....provocative works.....judging by some of the responses! Almost like fishing it is!
We absolutely do not object to folks criticizing our current President who seems to imagine himself to be a "King" in the way he acts.
Certainly the Royals must be a bit envious at his Airplane and helicopters although the Yacht has been sold off and thus cannot compete their Canoe.
Now that it was mentioned.....Jug's views on Global Warming is another topic that does not engender warmness.....poor choice of words I know.
Can someone tell me just what Jug Ears does for a living? Does the Man have any sort of gainful employ? Does he do the Royal Books, arrange Mum's flowers or something?
FL.....all that and you bought dinner as I recall.....I am purely blessed. For a while I thought you would spear me with the butter knife that night when we got around to guns and mayhem.
I will get the Tenner in the Post for that ringing endorsement.
Keep growling SASless, go get em boy!
An uncorroborated anecdote from days of yore at Aberdoom follows:
Inbound Slowbird arrives on the helicopter runway to be greeted with "Hold for the arriving "Rainbow 123" (visit of Phil the Duke), then pass behind and taxi to helicopter dispersal". Response from horny handed smallholding helicopter pilot went something like this as I recall "Hold for that waste of taxpayer's money & then pass behind & taxi to dispersal"! By the time our 'son of the soil' had reached dispersal a message from the Chief Pilot/Ops.Director et al awaited him. Following the no-doubt interview without coffee a grovelling apology was written, the threat being that the forthcoming Shell/Brent renewal would go to another operator if an apology wasn't forthcoming.
Anybody who thinks they live in a parliamentary democracy should think again!
An uncorroborated anecdote from days of yore at Aberdoom follows:
Inbound Slowbird arrives on the helicopter runway to be greeted with "Hold for the arriving "Rainbow 123" (visit of Phil the Duke), then pass behind and taxi to helicopter dispersal". Response from horny handed smallholding helicopter pilot went something like this as I recall "Hold for that waste of taxpayer's money & then pass behind & taxi to dispersal"! By the time our 'son of the soil' had reached dispersal a message from the Chief Pilot/Ops.Director et al awaited him. Following the no-doubt interview without coffee a grovelling apology was written, the threat being that the forthcoming Shell/Brent renewal would go to another operator if an apology wasn't forthcoming.
Anybody who thinks they live in a parliamentary democracy should think again!
SAS
You could start with this of course
And of course his old man started this
Nothing important you understand
Can someone tell me just what [Prince Charles] does for a living?
And of course his old man started this
Nothing important you understand
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'Jug Ears'? We use him to be polite towards village idiots...
Added as an edit rather as the planned separate post thanks to my broadband doing an update or something similar at just the wrong moment...
In all seriousness, while SASless's references to Prince Charles seem well -sorry, SASless - the sort of thing I last heard in about year 2 of secondary school (bar one reference of that sort about HMQ from a leading light of the university Labour Club in 1991), the amount of abuse fired at Bush Jr, and before him Reagan and Bush Sr from this side of the Atlantic might make SASless wonder if double standards are at work here. The fact that the overwhelming majority of people offended by the 'jug ears' reference are the sort of people who would disapprove of the abuse heaped on Bush 43 et al might be a subtlety that gets lost in the noise... Just a thought.
Added as an edit rather as the planned separate post thanks to my broadband doing an update or something similar at just the wrong moment...
In all seriousness, while SASless's references to Prince Charles seem well -sorry, SASless - the sort of thing I last heard in about year 2 of secondary school (bar one reference of that sort about HMQ from a leading light of the university Labour Club in 1991), the amount of abuse fired at Bush Jr, and before him Reagan and Bush Sr from this side of the Atlantic might make SASless wonder if double standards are at work here. The fact that the overwhelming majority of people offended by the 'jug ears' reference are the sort of people who would disapprove of the abuse heaped on Bush 43 et al might be a subtlety that gets lost in the noise... Just a thought.
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Torque - he was never going to be a matelot. He came on our small ship and was horrendously sea sick. Admittedly, it was pretty roughers, and most of us were sea sick, but as a first impression I don't think it really helped him be positive about life on the ocean wave!
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Individuals.....
Used to know this strange sort of Aussie who was an expert in Kung Fu or Origami or summat' who used to go around muttering his Sensai's favourite expression. "In a world of individuals what's the use of comparisons?".
Never quite got that myself - but he was an ex baggage handler so maybe something there.
Never quite got that myself - but he was an ex baggage handler so maybe something there.
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I have something in common with William then.
Fast Patrol Boat, Landing Craft, Dive Boat, you
name it, I was sick but once we offloaded into Zodiacs,
regardless of how rough, cold or a long transit it was,
all was good.
So I can fully understand him going RAF !
I have something in common with William then.
Fast Patrol Boat, Landing Craft, Dive Boat, you
name it, I was sick but once we offloaded into Zodiacs,
regardless of how rough, cold or a long transit it was,
all was good.
So I can fully understand him going RAF !
If i read this right.....those Foundations were created with Public Money....or Private Money in lieu of Public Money.
As the Royal Family is funded by the Public to the tune of 31 Million Pounds Sterling per year.....and have Real Estate Holdings of over 7 Billion Pounds Sterling.....I should hope they contribute to the People that are paying the Royal's Dole Money.
They should consult with the Obama's as they have a much better travel budget....with their recent trip to the old someplace costing the American Taxpayers a cool 100 Million Dollars.
As the Royal Family is funded by the Public to the tune of 31 Million Pounds Sterling per year.....and have Real Estate Holdings of over 7 Billion Pounds Sterling.....I should hope they contribute to the People that are paying the Royal's Dole Money.
They should consult with the Obama's as they have a much better travel budget....with their recent trip to the old someplace costing the American Taxpayers a cool 100 Million Dollars.
The British Royal Family is financed mainly by public money, but there are also a number of private sources of income. The official reported annual cost to the British public of keeping the Royal Family was £41.5 million for the 2008-09 financial year.[1] However, this figure is disputed since it does not include the cost of security provided by the police and the Army, the lost revenues of the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster and other expenses.
On 1 April 2012, the old Civil List and the Grants-in-Aid were replaced by the single Sovereign Grant. The British Parliament meets the cost of the Sovereign's official expenditure from public funds. This includes the costs of the upkeep of the various royal residences, staffing, travel and state visits, public engagements, and official entertainment.[2]
On 1 April 2012, the old Civil List and the Grants-in-Aid were replaced by the single Sovereign Grant. The British Parliament meets the cost of the Sovereign's official expenditure from public funds. This includes the costs of the upkeep of the various royal residences, staffing, travel and state visits, public engagements, and official entertainment.[2]
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All you ever see is cost, cost, cost.
I think the corresponding figures should be included showing
how much they bring in to the economy of the UK.
The royal baby alone will add an estimated 240 million pounds.
How much was Obama's last holiday ?
$100 million ?
All you ever see is cost, cost, cost.
I think the corresponding figures should be included showing
how much they bring in to the economy of the UK.
The royal baby alone will add an estimated 240 million pounds.
How much was Obama's last holiday ?
$100 million ?
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A few years back, during Charlie's last visit here (including a tour of the town centre) a pub-owning friend decided to advertise on his window-hung beer menu blackboard a special: "Big Ears Bitter". The local cops thought it was funny, but a sergeant jobsworth on a day-visit from Cumbria took umbrage and threatened an arrest on the grounds of "behaviour likely to cause a breech of the peace". So Steve had to take the board down......he left the spoof pump clip on the bar though. Sold quite a bit from what I remember (I think it was really Tetley's.....)
Rings a Bell.....that idea of "conduct likely to cause a breach of the piece"....that occurred in Lost Wages a while back.