If Scotland Declares UDI..........
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Bears.....
Pencils? Where are we at now?. Try a tin foil hat. Bears are into beta thought I was told.
A balmy 37 degrees C here today and hopefully a good bucketfull with thunder during the night. (I sleep very well when it is crashing and flashing).
Dunno' why. But I do.
Wednesday, off to Khao Yai to try to not crash a 172, it's the downward slope that is confusing and for those who live here who might be critical, it's the one on top of the hill, not the one on the flatlands between the hills.
Apart from that........noted that Wee Eck isn't saying much these days, must be munching his way through the free pies.
A balmy 37 degrees C here today and hopefully a good bucketfull with thunder during the night. (I sleep very well when it is crashing and flashing).
Dunno' why. But I do.
Wednesday, off to Khao Yai to try to not crash a 172, it's the downward slope that is confusing and for those who live here who might be critical, it's the one on top of the hill, not the one on the flatlands between the hills.
Apart from that........noted that Wee Eck isn't saying much these days, must be munching his way through the free pies.
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noted that Wee Eck isn't saying much these days, must be munching his way through the free pies.
Meanwhile, back in the relevant part of the globe...
First Minister's Questions - 23 May 2013
FM unveils Glasgow 2014 Legacy training scheme
SNP launch Aberdeen Donside byelection campaign
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Meanwhile...
Enjoy your 'Khao' whatever experience...
Nicola Sturgeon has come up with the term "Natural Majority". They are in favour of Independence. Who are they and is there now no need for a referendum as the "Natural Majority" say Independence is now a foregone conclusion
Still, in my world, can't find 1 in 3 people in favour though more like 9 out of 10 for the status quo - should we believe opinion polls?
HF
Still, in my world, can't find 1 in 3 people in favour though more like 9 out of 10 for the status quo - should we believe opinion polls?
HF
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Khao Yai is not a specific place - it is an area. Like a small county or a large district perhaps. Not that far from Saraburi. (They have a a tiger farm and little black bears in Saraburi zoo for the bear contingent amongst us. Yes, you can pet them and feed them beer).
Some lovely, lovely wimin' around Khao Yai, eeeeeee...flirts they are and some grizzled old Thais who used to fly the Porters into Laos in them bad old days. They're all getting old now but fun stories over a beer.
The Wee Leks always insist on bodyguarding me out of town "Cos' we know what those upcountry gals are like".
"Errrrrr.....but.........where do you come from"?
SNARL.
It'll be fun. Always is. Enjoy Govan on a rainy Wednesday and don't forget to wash your vest.
Some lovely, lovely wimin' around Khao Yai, eeeeeee...flirts they are and some grizzled old Thais who used to fly the Porters into Laos in them bad old days. They're all getting old now but fun stories over a beer.
The Wee Leks always insist on bodyguarding me out of town "Cos' we know what those upcountry gals are like".
"Errrrrr.....but.........where do you come from"?
SNARL.
It'll be fun. Always is. Enjoy Govan on a rainy Wednesday and don't forget to wash your vest.
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Khao Yai is not a specific place - it is an area. Like a small county or a large district perhaps. Not that far from Saraburi. (They have a a tiger farm and little black bears in Saraburi zoo for the bear contingent amongst us. Yes, you can pet them and feed them beer).
Some lovely, lovely wimin' around Khao Yai, eeeeeee...flirts they are and some grizzled old Thais who used to fly the Porters into Laos in them bad old days. They're all getting old now but fun stories over a beer.
The Wee Leks always insist on bodyguarding me out of town "Cos' we know what those upcountry gals are like".
"Errrrrr.....but.........where do you come from"?
SNARL.
It'll be fun. Always is. Enjoy Govan on a rainy Wednesday and don't forget to wash your vest.
Some lovely, lovely wimin' around Khao Yai, eeeeeee...flirts they are and some grizzled old Thais who used to fly the Porters into Laos in them bad old days. They're all getting old now but fun stories over a beer.
The Wee Leks always insist on bodyguarding me out of town "Cos' we know what those upcountry gals are like".
"Errrrrr.....but.........where do you come from"?
SNARL.
It'll be fun. Always is. Enjoy Govan on a rainy Wednesday and don't forget to wash your vest.
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Ok, it's a holiday here, Memorial Day, a day to honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our nation as well as the unofficial kick-off for summer.
Unfortunately, in my neck of the woods, it's raining, drab, and generally not nice outside so here I am reading pprune.
Because I had the time and against my better judgement, I read this thread from the beginning.
And I'm confused.
I can understand why some would want independence - historical enmity and the rest. Others think they are getting a raw deal regarding political representation. Others seem merely want to stick it to 'the man.'
Others think the idea isn't all that sound - fracturing a shared economy while assuming the full price of independent national infrastructure, etc.
But I do not understand this desire for devolution on one hand and the hell for leather surrendering of sovereignty, in my mind anyway, to an even bigger and far more instrusive/unfair artificial political construct of the EU.
Not my place to tell others what they should or should not do/believe, but I don't understand the desire to take independence in the 'micro,' while surrendering it in the 'macro.'
?Que?
Unfortunately, in my neck of the woods, it's raining, drab, and generally not nice outside so here I am reading pprune.
Because I had the time and against my better judgement, I read this thread from the beginning.
And I'm confused.
I can understand why some would want independence - historical enmity and the rest. Others think they are getting a raw deal regarding political representation. Others seem merely want to stick it to 'the man.'
Others think the idea isn't all that sound - fracturing a shared economy while assuming the full price of independent national infrastructure, etc.
But I do not understand this desire for devolution on one hand and the hell for leather surrendering of sovereignty, in my mind anyway, to an even bigger and far more instrusive/unfair artificial political construct of the EU.
Not my place to tell others what they should or should not do/believe, but I don't understand the desire to take independence in the 'micro,' while surrendering it in the 'macro.'
?Que?
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Nicola Sturgeon has come up with the term "Natural Majority". They are in favour of Independence. Who are they and is there now no need for a referendum as the "Natural Majority" say Independence is now a foregone conclusion
Still, in my world, can't find 1 in 3 people in favour though more like 9 out of 10 for the status quo - should we believe opinion polls?
HF
Still, in my world, can't find 1 in 3 people in favour though more like 9 out of 10 for the status quo - should we believe opinion polls?
HF
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Ok, it's a holiday here, Memorial Day, a day to honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our nation as well as the unofficial kick-off for summer.
Unfortunately, in my neck of the woods, it's raining, drab, and generally not nice outside so here I am reading pprune.
Because I had the time and against my better judgement, I read this thread from the beginning.
And I'm confused.
I can understand why some would want independence - historical enmity and the rest. Others think they are getting a raw deal regarding political representation. Others seem merely want to stick it to 'the man.'
Others think the idea isn't all that sound - fracturing a shared economy while assuming the full price of independent national infrastructure, etc.
But I do not understand this desire for devolution on one hand and the hell for leather surrendering of sovereignty, in my mind anyway, to an even bigger and far more instrusive/unfair artificial political construct of the EU.
Not my place to tell others what they should or should not do/believe, but I don't understand the desire to take independence in the 'micro,' while surrendering it in the 'macro.'
?Que?
Unfortunately, in my neck of the woods, it's raining, drab, and generally not nice outside so here I am reading pprune.
Because I had the time and against my better judgement, I read this thread from the beginning.
And I'm confused.
I can understand why some would want independence - historical enmity and the rest. Others think they are getting a raw deal regarding political representation. Others seem merely want to stick it to 'the man.'
Others think the idea isn't all that sound - fracturing a shared economy while assuming the full price of independent national infrastructure, etc.
But I do not understand this desire for devolution on one hand and the hell for leather surrendering of sovereignty, in my mind anyway, to an even bigger and far more instrusive/unfair artificial political construct of the EU.
Not my place to tell others what they should or should not do/believe, but I don't understand the desire to take independence in the 'micro,' while surrendering it in the 'macro.'
?Que?
We are just playing catch up that's all. Maybe we should be having a tea party!
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True enough. But if you are going to do it, then do it. Quit the nibbling around the edges, talking about it for decades and get on with it. 
But my confusion remains - break up the UK into small bits for "independence," but surrender the same to the EU to which there are no historical ties, indeed much more history in remaining outside any European confederation.
Take it on one hand, give it away with other.
Hence my confusion.
But my confusion remains - break up the UK into small bits for "independence," but surrender the same to the EU to which there are no historical ties, indeed much more history in remaining outside any European confederation.
Take it on one hand, give it away with other.
Hence my confusion.
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Just a thought - maybe the reason why Cameron doesn't seem too energetic in campaigning for a 'No' vote is:
Numbers of Westminster MPs for Scottish constituencies:
Labour 41
LibDem 11
SNP 6
Conservative 1
Numbers of Westminster MPs for Scottish constituencies:
Labour 41
LibDem 11
SNP 6
Conservative 1
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True enough. But if you are going to do it, then do it. Quit the nibbling around the edges, talking about it for decades and get on with it. Ah well there you see like single Malt whisky some things you cannot rush my friend
But my confusion remains - break up the UK into small bits for "independence," but surrender the same to the EU to which there are no historical ties, indeed much more history in remaining outside any European confederation. Aye there's the rub to quote one of England's famous sons. Some in Scotland are more European in outlook than some in England - they kinda feel England is dragging the UK towards an anti European stance. You know our PM has eventually, well sort of maybe, promised a referendum on continued membership of the EU. If he gets in next time
Then again, some in Scotland are not too happy with the prospects of leaving, as you say, an established union to simply join another one (personally I think that is one of the unpalatable elements of the tabled proposal) So you see this thing can't be rushed, it is to be considered like a fine malt. Beside would you deny us the chance to hear the likes of TT2's less than erudite haverings on the matter. He is the guy that doesn't like folk from Alloa or Bears.
Take it on one hand, give it away with other. Empire, Confederate - Federal twas always thus
Hence my confusion. You are not the only one - welcome to our world. But welcome your input good to have an external perspective on our matrimonial hiccup
Ah well there you see like single Malt whisky some things you cannot rush my friendBut my confusion remains - break up the UK into small bits for "independence," but surrender the same to the EU to which there are no historical ties, indeed much more history in remaining outside any European confederation. Aye there's the rub to quote one of England's famous sons. Some in Scotland are more European in outlook than some in England - they kinda feel England is dragging the UK towards an anti European stance. You know our PM has eventually, well sort of maybe, promised a referendum on continued membership of the EU. If he gets in next time
Then again, some in Scotland are not too happy with the prospects of leaving, as you say, an established union to simply join another one (personally I think that is one of the unpalatable elements of the tabled proposal) So you see this thing can't be rushed, it is to be considered like a fine malt. Beside would you deny us the chance to hear the likes of TT2's less than erudite haverings on the matter. He is the guy that doesn't like folk from Alloa or Bears. Take it on one hand, give it away with other. Empire, Confederate - Federal twas always thus
Hence my confusion. You are not the only one - welcome to our world. But welcome your input good to have an external perspective on our matrimonial hiccup
Oh take a look at all funny pictures of haggis and tartan aircraft on here; some really talented folk on here did those using Photoshop. Yup we really are a United Kingdom - see what you think.
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indeed much more history in remaining outside any European confederation
Heck, we even had a Queen of Scots who was also Queen Consort of France and a King of France who was also King Consort of Scots, (courtesy of the Auld Alliance), prior to any King of Scots ruling simultaneously as King of England.
I think you'll find Scotland's relations with mainland Europe pre-1707 were far more entwined than you appear to think.
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Here is one of the Pandas above inbound to register for the referendum in 2014. It's a ploy by nasty wee Ekk to get the natural "Bear" majority vote. Sorry could not find a picture of the Scottish Conservative MP!
Hey TT2 you can like them on Facebook Giant Pandas
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I think you'll find Scotland's relations with mainland Europe pre-1707 were
far more entwined than you appear to think.
far more entwined than you appear to think.
I thank those for answering for doing so and retire to the sidelines.