PVRs started.....
While I appreciate the input of the "old and bold" cadre here, I must admit that we seem to be going through a bad spell where a modern thread is rapidly derailed with "that reminds me of Tengah in 1962" posts. Which then lead to something else totally irrelevant, and then something even less relevant than that.
Thing is, ridiculous homophobia aside, I don't mind a thread where someone mentioned room parties getting a quick room party anecdote thrown in it. At least it's vaguely on topic!
Thing is, ridiculous homophobia aside, I don't mind a thread where someone mentioned room parties getting a quick room party anecdote thrown in it. At least it's vaguely on topic!
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Wise words - too many people, even experienced ones, seem to PVR to make a point, 'that'll show them' etc etc. Rightly or wrongly, the people in charge won't even notice, let alone care.
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Don't make a pvr an emotional decision-remain dispassionate and focused
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Military Aircrew a forum for military, and navy muppets continually trying to justify harriers/carriers and sad sorry ex military folk who have not been able to find a life outside the military and need to use PPRuNe as a social crutch, any other sad ****er with even the most tenuous link to the military and those who love the whoosh that aircraft make.
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I am impressed by your enthusiasm for Pprune which has enabled you contribute 3 posts in 196 days - one of which was to complain about the posts of regular contributors.
Many of those that you complain about have experience involving several thousands of flight hours operating in many dozens of Countries (North and South of the Equator) in all sorts of weather in Peace and in War. Personally, I was only on my fifth Log Book when I retired.
Perhaps you would consider an apology?
PS I converted Exascot to Type on his first Squadron.
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I am impressed by your enthusiasm for Pprune which has enabled you contribute 3 posts in 196 days - one of which was to complain about the posts of regular contributors.
Many of those that you complain about have experience involving several thousands of flight hours operating in many dozens of Countries (North and South of the Equator) in all sorts of weather in Peace and in War. Personally, I was only on my fifth Log Book when I retired.
Perhaps you would consider an apology?
PS I converted Exascot to Type on his first Squadron.
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I prefer it when threads ebb and flow as per a conversation. To stick rigidly to a single subject seems blinkered even by the standards of the most unimaginative of this board's members.
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As they are complaining about our ages the answer to the question "What is a goonbag?" will have to be that it is an item belonging to Spike Milligna - the well known spelling mistake!!
As they are complaining about our ages the answer to the question "What is a goonbag?" will have to be that it is an item belonging to Spike Milligna - the well known spelling mistake!!
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cazatou, perhaps the main reason for the insulting comments from predominantly sandaholic yoofs is that they are in self-denial about the spam bum-licking, unelected world policeman role the UK's armed forces have taken on, thanks to that lying little $hit Bliar?
Invading other peoples' countries at the behest of some dim-witted 'merkan presidente is certainly not something which would have recruited me into the RAF. I don't believe in illegal wars.
Why on earth should 'expeditionary warfare' be considered the primary military task for the RAF these days?
Is it surprising that so many people seem to want out? They might cite all manner of excuses, but I suspect that the basic fact is that few people in the RAF still believe in what they're doing.
Invading other peoples' countries at the behest of some dim-witted 'merkan presidente is certainly not something which would have recruited me into the RAF. I don't believe in illegal wars.
Why on earth should 'expeditionary warfare' be considered the primary military task for the RAF these days?
Is it surprising that so many people seem to want out? They might cite all manner of excuses, but I suspect that the basic fact is that few people in the RAF still believe in what they're doing.
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Secondly, many 'woofters' serve with us, both bluntie and aircrew, front-end and back.
Yep,and Cazatou is correct, it was the first time a P/O had been seen with wings on the squadron operational for many decades.
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Oh no, the two old duffers have started spouting bolleaux again. I can't quite decide which one of you reminds me of Uncle Albert in only fools and horses. I think both of you.
"During the war"
"During the war"
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Just to keep slightly on thread I really wish all you guys the very best. And, yes it is not like it used to be. I was very, very lucky. I am sorry we have upset a few apple carts referring to the good old days.
However:
Referring to me:
Just PM me if you want to know what I do now
However:
Referring to me:
sad sorry ex military folk who have not been able to find a life outside the military
What exactly will the four of you write about if all us oldies are barred?
JPA, OOA, non-aircraft carriers and pay as you dine?
CG
(No stick, no vote but functioning keyboard.)
JPA, OOA, non-aircraft carriers and pay as you dine?
CG
(No stick, no vote but functioning keyboard.)
It's about time the Mods changed the forum title to
Military Aircrew a forum for military, sad sorry ex military folk who have not been able to find a life outside the military and need to use PPRuNe as a social crutch
Military Aircrew a forum for military, sad sorry ex military folk who have not been able to find a life outside the military and need to use PPRuNe as a social crutch
For those who are considering leaving prematurely good luck, you won't regret it!
Speaking dispassionately, I can see both sides of the argument here.
The old and bold have a lot to offer, having seen many similar situations before. However, threads containing topical debate do seem to get hijacked by the WIW brigade. That said, those currently serving are equally wired to hijack the thread onto harriers/carriers, jointery and JPA etc.
So, add to the thread if you have something relevant to say [whether serving or not] seems to be a sensible policy. Nostalgia should stay in the relevant section unless it has a direct relevance to the thread.
Now, would you like these toys back....
The old and bold have a lot to offer, having seen many similar situations before. However, threads containing topical debate do seem to get hijacked by the WIW brigade. That said, those currently serving are equally wired to hijack the thread onto harriers/carriers, jointery and JPA etc.
So, add to the thread if you have something relevant to say [whether serving or not] seems to be a sensible policy. Nostalgia should stay in the relevant section unless it has a direct relevance to the thread.
Now, would you like these toys back....
Thanks MGD, the voice of reason, as ever.
Questions I asked myself whilst in(since throughout training I was surrounded by QFIs PVRing):
What would it take to get me to PVR?
What makes me think that isn't going to happen?
Does it make more sense to go now or wait for it to happen?
I would be interested to know from those currently in what the answer to the above questions are, i.e. what their 'last straw' would be.
(Obviously many of us see the current situation as way past what was acceptable to us, as we PVR'ed some time ago. The perspective is obviously different 'on the inside'.)
Questions I asked myself whilst in(since throughout training I was surrounded by QFIs PVRing):
What would it take to get me to PVR?
What makes me think that isn't going to happen?
Does it make more sense to go now or wait for it to happen?
I would be interested to know from those currently in what the answer to the above questions are, i.e. what their 'last straw' would be.
(Obviously many of us see the current situation as way past what was acceptable to us, as we PVR'ed some time ago. The perspective is obviously different 'on the inside'.)
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I have had the very good fortune to have had 3 mini careers during my time so the shine has never really worn off for me. 14 years fixing aircraft , remustered to ALM, had 3 tours rotary and now seeing my time out on Albert. I am as happy and content with my lot today as I was in 1974 when I joined.
PVR has never been in my dictionary as the carrot of a PA pension based on Pension 05 terms at age 55 means I will never have to work again.
The service is definitely not what it was but I doubt you will find a serviceman or woman anywhere who does not look back on "better" days but in the current economic climate I doubt very many of us are actually worse off than our civilian counterparts
I have had the very good fortune to have had 3 mini careers during my time so the shine has never really worn off for me. 14 years fixing aircraft , remustered to ALM, had 3 tours rotary and now seeing my time out on Albert. I am as happy and content with my lot today as I was in 1974 when I joined.
PVR has never been in my dictionary as the carrot of a PA pension based on Pension 05 terms at age 55 means I will never have to work again.
The service is definitely not what it was but I doubt you will find a serviceman or woman anywhere who does not look back on "better" days but in the current economic climate I doubt very many of us are actually worse off than our civilian counterparts
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Sideways,
Sadly blaming the old and bold for continuously screwing up threads with their endless drip drip drip of when I was a VC 10 this and Queens Flt that is not where your ire should be aimed.
If you look at the entrance criteria for this forum you will clearly see there is no mention of "Ex" anywhere so maybe it's the mods who should be your target as they seem content to allow such blatant forum abuse.
If you want military talk from military folk sadly you ain't getting that in here anytime soon
Sadly blaming the old and bold for continuously screwing up threads with their endless drip drip drip of when I was a VC 10 this and Queens Flt that is not where your ire should be aimed.
If you look at the entrance criteria for this forum you will clearly see there is no mention of "Ex" anywhere so maybe it's the mods who should be your target as they seem content to allow such blatant forum abuse.
If you want military talk from military folk sadly you ain't getting that in here anytime soon