Virgin Recruitment
Abbreviation, acronym, yadda, yadda, yadda! Instead of jawing about inconsequential tat, get your CVs dusted off boys and girls. Now is the time to show HMG just how much you appreciate their complete lack of appreciation! The grass over here is not necessarily greener ( ....much), but it is different grass .... and that can be a refreshing change from frikkin' sand.
Anyway, back to Virgin, would they consider guys in the 2000+ bracket with an ATPL ready to go?
Edit: Due to the pathetic PPRuNe web-nanny, you'll need to replace (dot) and (at) as appropriate in the address above....
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BBC News - Airline giant Virgin Atlantic creates 450 jobs
Airline giant Virgin Atlantic has announced the creation of 450 new jobs.
Many of the new jobs, which include 350 cabin staff and 50 pilots, will be based at Gatwick airport.
The Crawley-based airline said it was creating a new route between Manchester and Las Vegas, and increasing London departures to the Caribbean and Ghana.
It will also introduce a new fleet of 10 Airbus A330 aircraft over the next two years, with the first two entering service in the next two months.
Corneel Koster, director of operations, safety and security for Virgin Atlantic, said: "We have enjoyed a good year of recovery and can now look forward to expanding our network and welcoming a new fleet of aircraft."
The airline said the bulk of the new cabin crew roles had been created to support the additional weekly flights from London to Ghana, Tobago, Grenada and Havana.
The launch of the new Manchester to Las Vegas route will create 100 crew jobs in the Manchester area.
The recruitment drive is in addition to the 200 jobs that Virgin Atlantic announced in November for its new contact centre in Swansea.
Many of the new jobs, which include 350 cabin staff and 50 pilots, will be based at Gatwick airport.
The Crawley-based airline said it was creating a new route between Manchester and Las Vegas, and increasing London departures to the Caribbean and Ghana.
It will also introduce a new fleet of 10 Airbus A330 aircraft over the next two years, with the first two entering service in the next two months.
Corneel Koster, director of operations, safety and security for Virgin Atlantic, said: "We have enjoyed a good year of recovery and can now look forward to expanding our network and welcoming a new fleet of aircraft."
The airline said the bulk of the new cabin crew roles had been created to support the additional weekly flights from London to Ghana, Tobago, Grenada and Havana.
The launch of the new Manchester to Las Vegas route will create 100 crew jobs in the Manchester area.
The recruitment drive is in addition to the 200 jobs that Virgin Atlantic announced in November for its new contact centre in Swansea.
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Whilst we're on the subject of airlines starting to recruit... (this is a thinly veiled slide off thread - sorry)... does anyone know where's good to do the MCC course at the moment? All the threads seem to be years old - not that it's too surprising.
Anyway, there's a few of us fast jet types with 3000+ hrs out there...
Anyway, there's a few of us fast jet types with 3000+ hrs out there...
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3000 hour Red Herring
Anyway, there's a few of us fast jet types with 3000+ hrs out there...
Any military pilot who has completed the final ATPL/CPL assessment (IRT) at one of the flying schools cannot possibly have a "full ATPL" at the time of application.
Only a CPL, unofficially known as a 'frozen ATPL', can be obtained. Therefore at around question 4 of the application where it says: 'Have you a full ATPL' and the answer is 'NO', your application will be instantaneously rejected with a desultory "computer says no" bzzzzzzt.
Nice!
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Only a CPL, unofficially known as a 'frozen ATPL'
Anyhow, candidates have to be able to swim 25m continuously so probably rules out most crabs anyway
Stoppers,
to me infers a pilot who has obtained a licence under LASORS D3.3B terms, rather than ME chaps who have been able to take advantage of D3.3A.
If anyone who meets D3.3A criteria hasn't yet obtained an ATPL, they would be well advised to do so before the €urocratic chaos of EASA screws everyone about even further.....
Has Dickie B given you a start date yet? I see he's getting some A330s - handy for anyone who decides that flying Voyagers to ASI and MPA lacks further appeal after a couple of years or so...
Any military pilot who has completed the final ATPL/CPL assessment (IRT) at one of the flying schools cannot possibly have a "full ATPL" at the time of application.
If anyone who meets D3.3A criteria hasn't yet obtained an ATPL, they would be well advised to do so before the €urocratic chaos of EASA screws everyone about even further.....
Has Dickie B given you a start date yet? I see he's getting some A330s - handy for anyone who decides that flying Voyagers to ASI and MPA lacks further appeal after a couple of years or so...
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Note the red-herring title chaps as I believe the stipulated hours requirement is fair; given the demands of VA's exclusively LH setup.
Trim Stab thanks for the pedantic reminder. However, I was referring to the CPL that most military pilots obtain following the QSP flow diagram. All the majority of QSP's need is an appropriate type-rating and 500 hours multi-pilot to be unfrozen.
Stop-Start, I'm surprised at you! You'll have obtained your type-rating with an examiner on the jump seat of your civil-registered C130.
You have military colleagues from several types who do not have the appropriate type-rating for a full ATPL. Rather ungenerous there old sport!
Good luck with your application all the same. I thought you were a lifer!
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Trim Stab thanks for the pedantic reminder. However, I was referring to the CPL that most military pilots obtain following the QSP flow diagram. All the majority of QSP's need is an appropriate type-rating and 500 hours multi-pilot to be unfrozen.
Stop-Start, I'm surprised at you! You'll have obtained your type-rating with an examiner on the jump seat of your civil-registered C130.
You have military colleagues from several types who do not have the appropriate type-rating for a full ATPL. Rather ungenerous there old sport!
Good luck with your application all the same. I thought you were a lifer!
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Champagne anyone...?
not seeking to be un-generous old bean, merely clarifying the issue 
As for being a lifer, I was until about 3 months ago when it became apparent that commitment, experience, enthusiasm and good-will all count for cock all when it comes to the latest hare-brained management reshuffle! I can think of better things to do with my time than assist in the rearrangement of deck chairs on the titanic so shall leave them all to it. Shame cos I love flying the Herc but there comes a point when the being-dicked-about outweighs the joy of the job. It just took me a little longer than most to reach that point!
Good luck to all those who are seeking exit into the civvy world
Champagne anyone...?
Not under any illusions old chap and I know more than enough folk in the airlines to know that the grass certainly isn't greener outside, merely fertilised with a different type of sh*t.
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Need, Should, Must
"If coming from a military background you will need to have 3000 hours which should include at least 1500 hours Fast Jet or heavy experience."
compared to the Civi requirement:
"If coming from a commercial background you must have an Airbus or Boeing rating and experience with 3000 hours, 1000 on type."
My basic understanding of the english language is "Must" is more critical than "Should".
So perhaps more of you should apply!
compared to the Civi requirement:
"If coming from a commercial background you must have an Airbus or Boeing rating and experience with 3000 hours, 1000 on type."
My basic understanding of the english language is "Must" is more critical than "Should".
So perhaps more of you should apply!
Would I still have to do nonsense duties such as orderly officer?
Q. "Do they provide transport between Heathrow and Gatwick" A. "Yes"
Q. "What if you use your own car and drive to Gatwick?" A. "They pay the Heathrow-Gatwick mileage".
Q. "Even if you drive, as I bŁoody well know you do, direct to Gatwick?" A. "Yes".
Q. "When did you last do SDO, you whingeing git?" A.
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British Airways- DEP Longhaul Recruitment
I have heard, from more than one source within BA training, that BA intends to recruit a small (20-30?) number of direct entry pilots to the B744 from September and onwards. The company had expected to fill B744 positions from internal postings, but apparently overall B744 training requirements will be above that which the B744 training department can cope with. Obviously, type-rated applicants would be preferred by BA, but they don't know that there will necessarily be enough suitable applicants.
More recently there has been talk of BA, perhaps, being willing to accept some RAF applicants if they are licensed and have heavy jet experience. That sounds to me like you VC10, Tristar, C17, Nimrod and Sentry lot! BA may do this through the RAF Managed Path scheme - you are regsitered aren't you? The figure of over "2000 hours experience" is also being bandied about but whether that is total time, or heavy jet time, I don't know.
So, my advice would be to keep your ears and eyes open, ensure your CV is up to date, and start thinking about all the blurb that a BA on-line application requires (ask your mates!). Same goes for recruitment procedures that occur at Cranebank/Riverside. If you are not prepared when a (narrow) recruitment window opens, you have no one to blame but yourselves.
[There is little point in sending me PMs asking for any more info - it is all in this post, I don't know any more.]
More recently there has been talk of BA, perhaps, being willing to accept some RAF applicants if they are licensed and have heavy jet experience. That sounds to me like you VC10, Tristar, C17, Nimrod and Sentry lot! BA may do this through the RAF Managed Path scheme - you are regsitered aren't you? The figure of over "2000 hours experience" is also being bandied about but whether that is total time, or heavy jet time, I don't know.
So, my advice would be to keep your ears and eyes open, ensure your CV is up to date, and start thinking about all the blurb that a BA on-line application requires (ask your mates!). Same goes for recruitment procedures that occur at Cranebank/Riverside. If you are not prepared when a (narrow) recruitment window opens, you have no one to blame but yourselves.
[There is little point in sending me PMs asking for any more info - it is all in this post, I don't know any more.]