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The cuts haven't reached the Herc Force yet then !

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Old 4th Mar 2011, 13:04
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It

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Old 4th Mar 2011, 13:08
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I reckon a mover is probably at the root of all this.
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 13:15
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Trois, Trois, (non-Trois) Trois, Trois, (non-Trois), Trois on the "Stop Its!"

But I agree entirely, this thread needs to die a death.
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 13:27
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while sleeping in a ****ty tent at minus 20 with 8 snoring and farting engineers either side of them.
I've got to take acceptation to that, I've never snored while on det!

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So tell me: how do you ensure that all the pax spend the whole trip puking up'

Just let them read some of the drivel on this thread in 'their name'. Sick to the stomach, sick to the stomach with shame.
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 13:29
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Sir's, Ma'am's, Ladies & Gents

Your transport this evening from Bardufoss to Lyneham has been cancelled due to lack of funding/interest. You will now be transferred by coach to the nearest ferry terminal, where your unit will be expected to cough up for the crossing.

Don't have a go at the AT fleet, just because the're playing the game better than you are. They put more hours in, in more sh1t holes than you do, be grateful they are coming to get you and STFU
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 13:55
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Originally Posted by Grabbers
I reckon a mover is probably at the root of all this.
Could well be right, but it would have been a blue one if it was.

In my day, the Transop for the AMF and RM winter exercises that authorised whatever (like accom, extra crew composition etc) was issued at the start of the exercise before Xmas leave etc and the return flight details issued as an addendum a few months later. That being the case, I can well believe that at the time the original issue, that no host accomodation would have been able to be confirmed, it was just to far down the line.

As someone who used to be sat in the tent at the end of runway, I can sympathise, but I know there is a lot more to it than just the Crabs are in the hotel again.
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HWI,
I would think very seriously about withdrawing this thread and apologising if I were you. If you have used the (subsidised free) WIFI at Bardufoss then you are very traceable. You might also need a second Herc to carry home your wallet with all those ludicrously high rates that you have ponced out of the system whilst staying in Norway and drinking in the bar at £1 per tin with free food and accn. I am ashamed to serve under the same (Joint) Command as you, you do your service no favours with posts like this.....
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 14:10
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It
That sounds like a girl I once...'knew' ! Except that the 'Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh' normally followed the 'Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It'.....

Your transport this evening from Bardufoss to Lyneham has been cancelled due to lack of funding/interest. You will now be transferred by coach to the nearest ferry terminal, where your unit will be expected to cough up for the crossing.
And since you aren't used to living in civilised accommodation, you won't be in cabins; instead you will be required to erect (or whatever you do with them) your tents (whatever those are) on the open deck. A trough of stew will be provided for dinner; it will be refilled with porridge for breakfast. If you need to attend to the call of nature, there's the lee rail. If your need is more urgent, a bucket may be requested. In the unlikely event that you wish to have a wash, the bucket may be lowered into the sea using the rope provided. It is recommended that you do this before using the bucket for any alternative purpose.
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 16:00
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As has been said it"s all about looking after your own troops better, if all 3services were aligned to the best scenario damn sure HWI would have bothered getting jis cold fingers to walk across the keyboard.

Peace dudes
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 16:10
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lmfao, green eyed monster at work here.

Like BE said, any fool can live in a tent.

Get over it boys and girls, if the herc crew can get some decent accom for the night then fair play to them.
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 17:14
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Back in 1970 there was a thee-crew Shack detachment (airborne SAR cover for Prince Charles) to the Caribbean and Mexico from Puckoon International Field. Our accountants burned the midnight oil and all thay could come up with was HOTAC with all meals on the imprest and about a quid a day in LOA. Then, the day before departure, the support Herc arrived. I took the co-pilot for a coffee and he was bragging about the allowances. HOTAC accommodation + two thirds of a rate one. Huge dosh.

I asked him for the reference, which he gladly gave me. As Maritime was newly part of Strike Command, the rules seemed to apply to us. I drafted a Signal Message, the Boss signed it and three hours later we got approval. Thanks Herc mates, we were all in the same Air Force after all! We did enjoy Bermuda, Nassau and Acapulco.
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 18:47
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Neptunus Rex, how often that sort of thing went on back then!

Having done a tour on the Tin Triangle and armed only with a copy of Strike Command accounting instructions - plus the plea "Do NOT put any booze on the bill!" - I once did some accounting stuff for our F-4 detachment which had been royally screwed by the host station. When we finally flew back to Wattisham, I gave them the forms to sign and said "Shut up and do what I say!"....

They all received a reasonable sum in unclaimed a££owances, having been completely unaware of their entitlement.

Yes, they took the pi$$ with some banter. But I was rather annoyed that not one of them ever said thanks....
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 18:58
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lmfao, green eyed monster at work here.

Like BE said, any fool can live in a tent.

Get over it boys and girls, if the herc crew can get some decent accom for the night then fair play to them.
One of those "should have worked harder at school" moments.

Still when the RAF is disbanded and AT and SH go to the AAC, HOTAC will be a distant memory

Living in tents is highly over-rated, anyway. Too many rules when you are in a camp. Bashas rule - and no-one shouts at you, nor do you have to salute on the way to eat
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 19:24
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So, given its Friday (day of the flight?)

1. has the flight occurred yet?
2. were the PAX treated in a manner consistent with HWIs rant?
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 19:27
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And here we have a perfect example of why the forces are crumbling. The politicians must be absolutly loving the way all 3 services bitch,moan and infight about petty issues, trying to score cheap points, and fighting to keep capability by claiming the other services don't need x..

The defence review handled itself, watching the "top brasses" falling over each other to try and belittle & degrade the other was exactly what the government wanted. They are playing you off against each other, watching you pull yourselves down to the lowest common denominator!!

If you are too stupid to see WHY the crew should get a decent standard of accomodation, I suggest you do a bit of reading about fatigue & air law.

On the other point, perhaps if the forces recognised & respected each other & showed some co-operation & solidarity, we might not be in the mess we are now. Glad I'm out in 6 weeks, it's getting embarrasing now
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 20:16
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I left in 94 and haven't yet wished I hadn't . . . and yes, it does get petty doesn't it?
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 20:16
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That sounds like a girl I once...'knew' ! Except that the 'Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh' normally followed the 'Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It, Stop It'.....

Isn't that rape.
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 22:07
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In an antipodean country where "Brace yourself" is considered foreplay, quite possibly it would be....
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 23:42
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The cuts haven't reached the Herc Force yet then !
Crabs are flying into Bardufoss on Fri to pick us up in a Herc. Crew of 10!!!!!. Accom offered here but they have already booked into the Bardufoss hotel. Will cost over 2 grand for the night. I hate Crabs

Just read this link on FacePPRuNe ! obviously not on the dist list when the news broke that we have a financial problem ! "


So, was it £2000 plus?
Was usable accom' refused?
And who gives a toss?
Personally, I suspect that the only truth in the original post was that the poster fosters and encourages a large degree of jealousy of those who were about to take him home from his holiday on the piste.
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