RAF Smugglers!
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Putting the smuggling issue to one side, what is appalling is that the editor of some well known rag has used this
as a headline grabbing stunt.
Anyway, it must be a load of bollox otherwise my old mate SFFP would have been waxing lyrical about Movers.
AN RAF gang has been using flights bringing home fallen heroes for a smuggling operation.
Anyway, it must be a load of bollox otherwise my old mate SFFP would have been waxing lyrical about Movers.
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BBC and MOD comment
Sun sensantionalism at it's best - watching too many films - Presedio and American Gangster spring to mind!
RAF arrests in smuggling inquiry
Two members of the RAF have been arrested as part of an investigation into the suspected smuggling of tobacco through a military base in Wiltshire.
The allegations concern cigarettes being smuggled on military flights between Afghanistan and RAF Lyneham.
The RAF confirmed a joint investigation was being carried out by military police and HM Revenue and Customs.
It rejected claims that repatriation flights were involved, in which troops' bodies are flown home.
Two members of the RAF have been arrested as part of an investigation into the suspected smuggling of tobacco through a military base in Wiltshire.
The allegations concern cigarettes being smuggled on military flights between Afghanistan and RAF Lyneham.
The RAF confirmed a joint investigation was being carried out by military police and HM Revenue and Customs.
It rejected claims that repatriation flights were involved, in which troops' bodies are flown home.
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A bit off thread but quite amusing - landing at Manston many years ago, Customs came out to search our Wessex 5. They found nothing exciting but we were half a bottle of Scotch over the limit and they said they were going to confiscate it. Quick thinking - we said what if we all sat around the aircraft and drank it? The lovely customs chaps said fine as long as they could join in! If only I had a photo of us sitting in the sun drinking whisky with the customs..............
It made the subsequent transit to Culdrose, where Junglies were based then, sooooooooooooo smooth
It made the subsequent transit to Culdrose, where Junglies were based then, sooooooooooooo smooth
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What would have happened if you suffered a main gearbox failure
PS: In the case of a MGB failure, I personally think that being pi§§ed is the way to go.
Just who is this idiot that keeps changing just a few letters in a name and making inane posts ??? Is there some way of stopping him/them ??
Edit: Yes there is and its under way.
Edit: Yes there is and its under way.
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I agree.
An obsevation. Whoever it is, his/her prose and sentence structure is very similar to another 'regular' poster who has been strangely quiet of late. AIDU, are you playing games?
I agree.
An obsevation. Whoever it is, his/her prose and sentence structure is very similar to another 'regular' poster who has been strangely quiet of late. AIDU, are you playing games?
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I was once nicked upon landing at Lyneham after a Hercy flight back from Dubai. The Smirnoff citron had got the better of me mid-flight. Chops M embarked made a gash allegation that lead to my subsequent arrest on the pan.
In Lyneham guardhouse - kitbag emptied & itemised..."You've got a fair few fags over the limit here I think mate!" was the comment from a lady sgt RAFP (I think). My reply was ..."Yeah but I reckon I'll be ok by morning though!"
Night was spent smoking fags in green ovies in the guardhouse until FOST legal gave the all clear for me to go on leave morning after.
Got 7 days pay fine on return to ship but got a free breakfast at Lyneham though, and a buckshee rail warrant...WINNER!
(Chops M tried to say I had threatened him verbally mid flight - long running feud. he came unstuck with explaining how he heard me wearing 2 sets of earduffs though. Got done for being navigationally unaware while transiting aft for a pi$$ though).
In Lyneham guardhouse - kitbag emptied & itemised..."You've got a fair few fags over the limit here I think mate!" was the comment from a lady sgt RAFP (I think). My reply was ..."Yeah but I reckon I'll be ok by morning though!"
Night was spent smoking fags in green ovies in the guardhouse until FOST legal gave the all clear for me to go on leave morning after.
Got 7 days pay fine on return to ship but got a free breakfast at Lyneham though, and a buckshee rail warrant...WINNER!
(Chops M tried to say I had threatened him verbally mid flight - long running feud. he came unstuck with explaining how he heard me wearing 2 sets of earduffs though. Got done for being navigationally unaware while transiting aft for a pi$$ though).
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Anything the Brits can do, the Spams can do much worse:
Guardsmen charged with smuggling Ecstasy on C-5
Guardsmen charged with smuggling Ecstasy on C-5
"Guardsmen charged with smuggling Ecstasy on C-5
4/14/2005 - SAN ANTONIO (AFPN) -- Two Airmen from the New York Air National Guard's 105th Airlift Wing have been charged with importing narcotics from Germany to the United States after being arrested April 12 on federal narcotics charges, according to a release from the U.S. Attorney's office for the southern district of New York.
Capt. Franklin Rodriguez, a C-5 Galaxy pilot, and Master Sgt. John Fong, a C-5 loadmaster, were found with 28 large bags officials believed to contain about 290,000 pills of Ecstasy in their luggage upon return from an overseas mission April 12.
The Airmen are charged with one count of conspiracy to import Ecstasy into the United States and one count of conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute Ecstasy.
"Ecstasy is an extremely harmful drug that is abused mainly by teenagers and young adults," said John Gilbride, special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration's New York field division. Federal law enforcement agents arrested the Airmen shortly after their aircraft landed at Stewart Air National Guard Base.
If convicted, the Airmen face a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison on each count and a $1 million fine on each count. (Information compiled from U.S. Attorney press release)"
4/14/2005 - SAN ANTONIO (AFPN) -- Two Airmen from the New York Air National Guard's 105th Airlift Wing have been charged with importing narcotics from Germany to the United States after being arrested April 12 on federal narcotics charges, according to a release from the U.S. Attorney's office for the southern district of New York.
Capt. Franklin Rodriguez, a C-5 Galaxy pilot, and Master Sgt. John Fong, a C-5 loadmaster, were found with 28 large bags officials believed to contain about 290,000 pills of Ecstasy in their luggage upon return from an overseas mission April 12.
The Airmen are charged with one count of conspiracy to import Ecstasy into the United States and one count of conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute Ecstasy.
"Ecstasy is an extremely harmful drug that is abused mainly by teenagers and young adults," said John Gilbride, special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration's New York field division. Federal law enforcement agents arrested the Airmen shortly after their aircraft landed at Stewart Air National Guard Base.
If convicted, the Airmen face a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison on each count and a $1 million fine on each count. (Information compiled from U.S. Attorney press release)"
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In 1982 whillst in the South Atlantic we waited eagerly for the mail to arrive.....onyl to discover that some thieving person had opened the mail and taken things out. It was soon discovered that the people were RAF Movers at Ascension Island. As far as I am concerned, RAF Movers are theives, liars and crooks.
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Seperoid you really are chimp.
Perhaps I should now generalise all ground crew and officers as to$$ers just because I've met or worked with a few bad ones?
For such a wild allegation i hope you have proof that they opened HM mail bags!
I say again you are a chimp!
MM
Perhaps I should now generalise all ground crew and officers as to$$ers just because I've met or worked with a few bad ones?
For such a wild allegation i hope you have proof that they opened HM mail bags!
I say again you are a chimp!
MM
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In 1982 whillst in the South Atlantic we waited eagerly for the mail to arrive.....onyl to discover that some thieving person had opened the mail and taken things out. It was soon discovered that the people were RAF Movers at Ascension Island. As far as I am concerned, RAF Movers are theives, liars and crooks.
You statment goes from Person to People...bit of clarity required there if your throwing stones...Gimp
You statment goes from Person to People...bit of clarity required there if your throwing stones...Gimp
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I didn't tar movers with the same brush....the thieving ratbags who stole the photographs of my children did that....Those rats who stole money, personal momentos and photographs from the mail of fellow servicemen, servicemen who were being killed by the enemy, servicemen who were putting their lives on the line....and all so that those thieves, liars and crooks could steal from their mail..... those are the people you should be targetting.
Now, if you want people to stop thinking that movers are crooks, liars and thieves then you need to tell the movers to stop stealing stuff and to stop smuggling stuff......
Now, if you want people to stop thinking that movers are crooks, liars and thieves then you need to tell the movers to stop stealing stuff and to stop smuggling stuff......
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Hang em high.........
Gents, I was told this first hand by a sqn exec when it happened who was totally shocked by the level at which people would stoop to make money. The box in question was evidently marked as PE's of an individual and placed on the aircraft by persons for collection by the movers on arrival. It was manifested as PE's but the people responsible for removing the PE's were only aware of one box and thus the crew were alerted and the other box taken away for investigation before the box could be collected by others. There are rotten apples in every barrel and I for one hope they receive the full punishment appropriate to their crime, dishonorable discharge and loss of pension etc. Did it sell a few more newspapers, probably not but it did bring the RAF into disrepute and that is another matter that said individuals need to be punished for.
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Ha ha that's some rant. I just hope before you carry on you have proof of what you say.
If so, can we assume the individuals in question were caught, arrested and thrown out of the RAF (i hope so). If not why not, perhaps another sweeping generalisation.
Re-read your post you did tar us all with the same brush.
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MM
Ha ha that's some rant. I just hope before you carry on you have proof of what you say.
If so, can we assume the individuals in question were caught, arrested and thrown out of the RAF (i hope so). If not why not, perhaps another sweeping generalisation.
Re-read your post you did tar us all with the same brush.
Chimp
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On another note, I hope all those involved in the ciggie incident hang their heads in shame and those found guilty are kicked out. No place in my trade (or any) for these individuals.
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Now what has happened is a real shame and I dont condone this in any way shape or form. I am a Mover and to see all these people tar all mover's with the same brush I think is a little out of order. This may be a big deal with the amount of cigarettes and the lenghth of time this has been going on, they deserve everything that they will get, I know the indaviduals and unfortunatly I would not have thought they would have run the risk just to make a few pounds. Now I also know aircrew that have pulled a fast one with the odd ride on lawnmower or two!!! and everyone has turned a blind eye.
Lets just leave it to the authorities to sort this out and please stop speculating on what has happened or what will happen to the movements trade, because their will be alot of fallout from this and it will come down hard on all movers!!!.
To those involved that think they have got away with it, think on to those that have been caught they know your names and to get a lesser sentance they will sing like a bird!!!!!!
To everyone else lets just see what happens.
Lets just leave it to the authorities to sort this out and please stop speculating on what has happened or what will happen to the movements trade, because their will be alot of fallout from this and it will come down hard on all movers!!!.
To those involved that think they have got away with it, think on to those that have been caught they know your names and to get a lesser sentance they will sing like a bird!!!!!!
To everyone else lets just see what happens.
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To those involved that think they have got away with it, think on to those that have been caught they know your names and to get a lesser sentance they will sing like a bird!!!!!!
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I think you miss the point!! There are alot of people involved and I hope they all get caught. There is no room in the movements trade for people like this or in any trade for that matter.
I think you miss the point!! There are alot of people involved and I hope they all get caught. There is no room in the movements trade for people like this or in any trade for that matter.