RIAT Colours Parade - echos of the Great Escape
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Come on, you don't expect an Innsworth-based blunty to have to travel, do you? The members of the Innsworth 'circle' used to get nose bleeds if they went beyond Cheltenham. And it saves them having to work out how to claim their T&S on JPA.
The bit that baffles me about all this is why are the practices being done at Innsworth?
Come on, you don't expect an Innsworth-based blunty to have to travel, do you? The members of the Innsworth 'circle' used to get nose bleeds if they went beyond Cheltenham. And it saves them having to work out how to claim their T&S on JPA.
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I just read of a successful defeat at 2nd PUS level about a move from Innsworth. Swiss Des ruled against PUS. PUS and senior officers are spitting feathers, I am told, that the rank and file won using fact, logic and reason.
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well after witnessing the 400 pongos on veterans day last Fri and the watching the older ones from ww2 Korea and Suez march on sun with pride through the town it is a pity that most of you don't seem to have the same pride shown by them.
It does make me wonder why join the military
It does make me wonder why join the military
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Come on, you don't expect an Innsworth-based blunty to have to travel, do you? The members of the Innsworth 'circle' used to get nose bleeds if they went beyond Cheltenham. And it saves them having to work out how to claim their T&S on JPA.
Agree 100% to save cash for the real troops , yet have the homogoblins and the gays get travel claims to join one bobby fest in London. Makes you wonder , really really wonder.
Come on, you don't expect an Innsworth-based blunty to have to travel, do you? The members of the Innsworth 'circle' used to get nose bleeds if they went beyond Cheltenham. And it saves them having to work out how to claim their T&S on JPA.
Agree 100% to save cash for the real troops , yet have the homogoblins and the gays get travel claims to join one bobby fest in London. Makes you wonder , really really wonder.
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Every year, in Guernsey, there is a parade with bands playing, flags flying and everyone marching. There are contingents from the RM Band Plymouth, an RN Guardship, the old salts and younger family members, police, St John's Ambulance, Sea Cadets, Marine Cadets, in short about everyone. The parade commander is an RNVR 2.5 and NO ONE practises before hand. True some have been doing it for 30 or more years, but it goes without a hitch.
As related above, there is a case where you can go too far.
As related above, there is a case where you can go too far.
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MGD: We have all been conditioned and worn down by a very long list of crap, trivia and poorly implementated change and just stare in bewilderment as such decisions screw us, and those around us.
It's not just in the RAF - the b
ds are everywhere. For God's sake keep your kids out of teaching - a shake-up every Tuesday has been our lot since 1979!
Just listen to the latest highly-experienced exponent of educational thought, the aptly named Ed Balls. He's an expert because he's been to school and doesn't it show? Some of the t*sser's ideas are coming round for the fourth time to my certain knowledge.
It's not just in the RAF - the b
ds are everywhere. For God's sake keep your kids out of teaching - a shake-up every Tuesday has been our lot since 1979!Just listen to the latest highly-experienced exponent of educational thought, the aptly named Ed Balls. He's an expert because he's been to school and doesn't it show? Some of the t*sser's ideas are coming round for the fourth time to my certain knowledge.
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Hmmm,
I think scribbly is demonstrating a somewhat 'right of left' bias here AIDU...and there are plenty of current teachers who are ex-military. Plenty of the decision makers in education have all sorts of ideas, based on their 15 minutes of classroom experience, it is these people who need to be told to **** off rather than those actually at the coal face.
I think scribbly is demonstrating a somewhat 'right of left' bias here AIDU...and there are plenty of current teachers who are ex-military. Plenty of the decision makers in education have all sorts of ideas, based on their 15 minutes of classroom experience, it is these people who need to be told to **** off rather than those actually at the coal face.
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I've lost count of the number of parades/march pasts/Guards of Honour I took part in during my 25 years service.
The cocks up's were stunning. A few memorable one's;
Parade Commander who totally screwed up the running order of a Freedom of Doncaster parade and marched us into a cul-de-sac.
Route lining at East Retford, having to Present Arms to a mayor (in full mayoral kit) who had forgotten to take his bicycle clips off. The SWO, walking behind us muttering "No laughing, no laughing" almost brought the house down.
Same year, AOC's parade. At the last moment somebody unearthed a bugler and thought it wold be a good idea to 'Sound the Advance' at the start of the proceedings. No-one had warned us of this. AOC lands, Parade Commander orders 'Sound the Advance', Bugler bugles and one very pissed off FS shouts 'Charge', parade falls about laughing.
The whole of the OR's at Linton being marched (5 times) in front of the hangars on a very warm Friday evening because the JP Flypast Leader couldn't get the TOT right. That farce only ended because the jets were running out of fuel. (Oh, and having to march past the Studes crewrooms whilst they sat on the grass and drank beer. Good for morale that was).
Oh, I could go on.
The point I'm trying to make is that no matter how much rehearsing is done...........
The cocks up's were stunning. A few memorable one's;
Parade Commander who totally screwed up the running order of a Freedom of Doncaster parade and marched us into a cul-de-sac.
Route lining at East Retford, having to Present Arms to a mayor (in full mayoral kit) who had forgotten to take his bicycle clips off. The SWO, walking behind us muttering "No laughing, no laughing" almost brought the house down.
Same year, AOC's parade. At the last moment somebody unearthed a bugler and thought it wold be a good idea to 'Sound the Advance' at the start of the proceedings. No-one had warned us of this. AOC lands, Parade Commander orders 'Sound the Advance', Bugler bugles and one very pissed off FS shouts 'Charge', parade falls about laughing.
The whole of the OR's at Linton being marched (5 times) in front of the hangars on a very warm Friday evening because the JP Flypast Leader couldn't get the TOT right. That farce only ended because the jets were running out of fuel. (Oh, and having to march past the Studes crewrooms whilst they sat on the grass and drank beer. Good for morale that was).
Oh, I could go on.
The point I'm trying to make is that no matter how much rehearsing is done...........
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My favourite was the woodentop RSM who thought it would be a good wheeze to rehearse the route lining for the return of the Stone of Destiny at @ 5.30 am on a weekday in the Royal Mile, Edinburgh.
I can only assume he didn't realise the flats above the shops are occupied as he was unceremoniously told to shut the **** up and had a bucket of water thrown over him from a 3rd floor window.
I can only assume he didn't realise the flats above the shops are occupied as he was unceremoniously told to shut the **** up and had a bucket of water thrown over him from a 3rd floor window.
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I think they have obviously been confined to barracks for the duration as the DI's realise what a tough job they have on their hands - trying to instill some military bearing on the Royal Air Force given only 10 days in which to do it. I don't envy them.....
Just thought I'd throw that hand grenade in, stand back and see what happens!!
Just thought I'd throw that hand grenade in, stand back and see what happens!!
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RIAT Colours Parade
* Correct me if I've got this wrong, there's personnel parade rehearsing for a week, they're NOT confind to camp but given a curfew, provided with sports, entertainments and bars, (even golf and flat screen TVs I've heard!) and staying in buildings - not tents??? Whilst I agree it's yet another task we have to fulfil, have a thought for your mates deployed elsewhere in the world, there's worse places you could be! We're in the military, get a grip. If you don't have a sense of humour you shouldn't have joined!!!
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I'm in no doubt you are right.
However, was the Royal Air Force ever envisaged to have it's highly trained personnel do drill?
OK, I'll go for the basic marching from mess to hangar stuff, to get a body of men from scoff to fixing/flying aircraft. We all learned that cr@p in basic training.
The fact is the RAF is not the Brigade of Guards, it was never designed to be, we don't do 'public duties' a la Household Division. (QCS excepted, and they are volunteers, and bloody good too).
The whole point of this thread is to get someone to explain how (when the RAF is engaged in combat on two fronts; morale being at rock bottom; professionally trained people PVR'ing in droves; money and equipment being unavailable etc etc) the cost of this beanfeast is justified.
I'm all in favour of pomp and circumstance in it's place. But given the choice between a Silken Banner or a serviceable (and airworthy) aircraft, I know which I would choose.
I'm in no doubt you are right.
However, was the Royal Air Force ever envisaged to have it's highly trained personnel do drill?
OK, I'll go for the basic marching from mess to hangar stuff, to get a body of men from scoff to fixing/flying aircraft. We all learned that cr@p in basic training.
The fact is the RAF is not the Brigade of Guards, it was never designed to be, we don't do 'public duties' a la Household Division. (QCS excepted, and they are volunteers, and bloody good too).
The whole point of this thread is to get someone to explain how (when the RAF is engaged in combat on two fronts; morale being at rock bottom; professionally trained people PVR'ing in droves; money and equipment being unavailable etc etc) the cost of this beanfeast is justified.
I'm all in favour of pomp and circumstance in it's place. But given the choice between a Silken Banner or a serviceable (and airworthy) aircraft, I know which I would choose.
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Although I know what you are saying Charlie , we got 2 lads there that have just done there stint out in the sandy places, as well as had 2 weeks of guard duty as of late as well , and to have this now with one just had a kid born , only reason they doing it as they were the only ones nominated by the bosses to do it , I can see from where I am that it is no wonder we are loosing guys , good guys with plenty to offer but they just are not getting a break.
ps I just want to know where it is laid down that you can only join the military with a sense of humour, I think you will find that discriminates people with no humour , mainly the leaders of the Military
But comments like that are from old school and you are more than likely a SNCO that works in a bay and does the occasional 4 month tour every 4 years , you have friday afternoons off work and have sportsdays. If im getting warm tell me to bugger off
Whilst I agree it's yet another task we have to fulfil, have a thought for your mates deployed elsewhere in the world, there's worse places you could be! We're in the military, get a grip. If you don't have a sense of humour you shouldn't have joined!!!
ps I just want to know where it is laid down that you can only join the military with a sense of humour, I think you will find that discriminates people with no humour , mainly the leaders of the Military
But comments like that are from old school and you are more than likely a SNCO that works in a bay and does the occasional 4 month tour every 4 years , you have friday afternoons off work and have sportsdays. If im getting warm tell me to bugger off
Bet these guys weren't confined to barracks to rehearse for this important parade!
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Do I see some Air Force Blue following the Brown Jobs? Am I allowed to say that? Bringing up the rear, no that's even worse.
I'll stop this before it turns into a Carry On movie.
I'll stop this before it turns into a Carry On movie.
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RIAT Colours Parade
* Correct me if I've got this wrong, there's personnel parade rehearsing for a week, they're NOT confind to camp but given a curfew, provided with sports, entertainments and bars, (even golf and flat screen TVs I've heard!) and staying in buildings - not tents??? Whilst I agree it's yet another task we have to fulfil, have a thought for your mates deployed elsewhere in the world, there's worse places you could be! We're in the military, get a grip. If you don't have a sense of humour you shouldn't have joined!!!
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RIAT Colours Parade
* Correct me if I've got this wrong, there's personnel parade rehearsing for a week, they're NOT confind to camp but given a curfew, provided with sports, entertainments and bars, (even golf and flat screen TVs I've heard!) and staying in buildings - not tents??? Whilst I agree it's yet another task we have to fulfil, have a thought for your mates deployed elsewhere in the world, there's worse places you could be! We're in the military, get a grip. If you don't have a sense of humour you shouldn't have joined!!!
So you find it acceptable to give people you expect in this day and age we live in to go off to war, a bloody curfew so they are tucked up in bed like good little children ?
I suppose the Not so great leader of men the G/Capt in charge is also abstaining from being out after dark...... I bet not.
Why not go the whole hog, give em all ASBO's and ankle bands to monitor their location.......