RIAT Colours Parade - echos of the Great Escape
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News from the inside !
***BREAKING NEWS***
The curfew has been lifted !! Hurrah !!
Maybe the powers that be have been reading this thread ... or they realised it wasn't enforcable after most got in from town at 3am !!!
Unlike the great escape, the biggest problem seemed to be how to break back in !!
The curfew has been lifted !! Hurrah !!
Maybe the powers that be have been reading this thread ... or they realised it wasn't enforcable after most got in from town at 3am !!!
Unlike the great escape, the biggest problem seemed to be how to break back in !!
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Seem to remember some skinny dippers at RAF Bruggen avoiding the plods jumping over the fence starkers into no mans land between the two borders.. wearing nothing but a smile..
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Escape from Stalag Innsworth
Can confirm a number of succesful "Home Runs" to Cheltenham & Gloucester have taken place.
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I thought the RAF had left Innsworth? Or is this a reference to Ministers shooting down the SPVA's senior managements proposal to relocate the JCCC and Medal Office? If so then thank **** for Ministers (not something I say very often!). The SPVA Management Board have deservedly got egg on their face and given the poor service they have provided in recent years and for inflicting JPA on us, it is no more than they deserve. 
Lets just hope, we don't hear that the Board get bonuses or gongs as compensation
Shame Ministers did not see sense and stop, or at least delay the move into HW of PTC/PMA. I understand the PTC & PMA buildings will sit empty and locked for 2 years until the Army move in. What a waste, the PTC building was only built 12 years ago and I gather it is a bit cramped at HW.
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I just read of a successful defeat at 2nd PUS level about a move from Innsworth. Swiss Des ruled against PUS. PUS and senior officers are spitting feathers, I am told, that the rank and file won using fact, logic and reason
Lets just hope, we don't hear that the Board get bonuses or gongs as compensationShame Ministers did not see sense and stop, or at least delay the move into HW of PTC/PMA. I understand the PTC & PMA buildings will sit empty and locked for 2 years until the Army move in. What a waste, the PTC building was only built 12 years ago and I gather it is a bit cramped at HW.
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Will do some of our people some good to remember that they are in a military organisation. If they feel hard done by for spending a few days on ceremonial duty, I commend that they take a few books to read. Any of the WW1 and WW2 books would do for a start.
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Ah good, a nice paternal and patronising attitude. The issue isn't the parade (always good for the public to see, even if they aren't invited) or even the 10 days worth of practice (which arguably they need), but the heavy-handed attitude that decreed the requirement to live on base and imposed a curfew.
If the curfew was such a good idea, then why has it been lifted?
And I'm sure the good chaps have plenty of time to do their historical studies whilst on their harmony breaking detachments...in fact it is good to see that the historical military spirit of saying 'up yours' to pomposity and petty restrictions lives on!
If the curfew was such a good idea, then why has it been lifted?
And I'm sure the good chaps have plenty of time to do their historical studies whilst on their harmony breaking detachments...in fact it is good to see that the historical military spirit of saying 'up yours' to pomposity and petty restrictions lives on!
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Also, Sir PWA, I would imagine that the vast majority of the 800 don't need reminding of their Military Organisation membership. The medals they wear on their chests, awarded for service in Sandy Places in current times, will be a constant reminder.
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in fact it is good to see that the historical military spirit of saying 'up yours' to pomposity and petty restrictions lives on!
Regretfully, only on this Forum. I've perused the E-Goat site and there's hardly a comment from currently serving Members of the RAF.
I hope the 'banter', the 'characters' and the fun that made RAF life what it was, (as demonstrated ably on Pprune), has not been weeded out of our modern counterparts.
in fact it is good to see that the historical military spirit of saying 'up yours' to pomposity and petty restrictions lives on!
Regretfully, only on this Forum. I've perused the E-Goat site and there's hardly a comment from currently serving Members of the RAF.
I hope the 'banter', the 'characters' and the fun that made RAF life what it was, (as demonstrated ably on Pprune), has not been weeded out of our modern counterparts.
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TT, you have is exactly although I believe some Air assets are still there too.
You can close military bases, you can post servicemen, and you can offer civil servants relocation but you can't make them go.
A while back they were going to move Daws Hill to High Wycombe. Hardly the end of the earth but to some civil servants it was a step too far on their daily commute. When you are used to walking or cycling to work you don't want a 10 mile drive. They left in droves. The move didn't happen and they can back.
I don't know if they ever did close Daws Hill. If they had moved there would have been even less space at High Wycombe.
You can close military bases, you can post servicemen, and you can offer civil servants relocation but you can't make them go.
A while back they were going to move Daws Hill to High Wycombe. Hardly the end of the earth but to some civil servants it was a step too far on their daily commute. When you are used to walking or cycling to work you don't want a 10 mile drive. They left in droves. The move didn't happen and they can back.
I don't know if they ever did close Daws Hill. If they had moved there would have been even less space at High Wycombe.
Will do some of our people some good to remember that they are in a military organisation. If they feel hard done by for spending a few days on ceremonial duty, I commend that they take a few books to read. Any of the WW1 and WW2 books would do for a start.
One feels that the erstwhile multi-ringed polymorphic poler has never, in his vast experience of man management, learned that the carrot achieves better results than the stick......
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Hope they are all being made to stump up for PAYD as well, now that would be bloody insulting to say the least
Mate of mine, (WO) confined to base, met his wife today, he gets back from this debacle then a week later back out to theatre for ooh how many times is it now!!!!? And before there is any comments mate in the same outfit doing the same job has hit 1000days in theatre so did not ask but this bloke must have similar if not longer out there!
I have done the RAH uxbridge week, luckily the QCS treat us like adults and its up to you to make sure you are fit for duty in the morning, and pretty sure QCS speed marching would wake anyone up
As for the Queens B Day parade, errr correct me if am wrong but if you join certain regiments like the guards do you not expect to do a fair bit of parade work as well as the normal green job stuff!!!!
Mate of mine, (WO) confined to base, met his wife today, he gets back from this debacle then a week later back out to theatre for ooh how many times is it now!!!!? And before there is any comments mate in the same outfit doing the same job has hit 1000days in theatre so did not ask but this bloke must have similar if not longer out there!
I have done the RAH uxbridge week, luckily the QCS treat us like adults and its up to you to make sure you are fit for duty in the morning, and pretty sure QCS speed marching would wake anyone up
As for the Queens B Day parade, errr correct me if am wrong but if you join certain regiments like the guards do you not expect to do a fair bit of parade work as well as the normal green job stuff!!!!
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Tea and medals......
I've read through all the posts on this thread with interest. As an Ex-OR who did more than one or two parades (including an AOC's one at a Northern outpost many years ago, when the OIC asked for permission to march off was told "No, it was a shambles. Do it all again") I can sympathise with a lot of the comments raised.
However, one point did strike me after a comment someone made. For the first time in a long time the majority of those present at the parade with have been awarded at least one gong. All those parades I did where all you got was the SNCOs with their undetected crime medals and the occasional FI or NI clasp, this time there will be a lot of people with the GSM for time served in sandy places.
Or have they stopped giving that out as well?
However, one point did strike me after a comment someone made. For the first time in a long time the majority of those present at the parade with have been awarded at least one gong. All those parades I did where all you got was the SNCOs with their undetected crime medals and the occasional FI or NI clasp, this time there will be a lot of people with the GSM for time served in sandy places.
Or have they stopped giving that out as well?
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Ogre, indeed the GSM is still around but it is so hot everywhere now that I think they issue real gongs from VC down.
BEags, poller? I thought he was a nav
BEags, poller? I thought he was a nav
***BREAKING NEWS***
The curfew has been lifted !! Hurrah !!
Maybe the powers that be have been reading this thread ...
The curfew has been lifted !! Hurrah !!
Maybe the powers that be have been reading this thread ...
Good news that sense has prevailed, does that also mean that local personnel can travel from their homes?
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It amazes me that this has gone on for 6 pages. I think I have read only one accurate fact (Curfew lifted) so far. It would appear that some of you are budding fiction authors.
So here are the facts. There was a curfew of 23:30 for personnel to be back on camp on foot or by 23:00 if in a vehicle, and by deffinition of the curfew there was no confinment to camp and therefore nothing stopping people who lived close by going home.
The curfew was liffted on sunday.
There is also no 2 can rule not even a 3, 4 or 5 can one.
Your posts were a good read anyway.
I look forward to the first novel.
So here are the facts. There was a curfew of 23:30 for personnel to be back on camp on foot or by 23:00 if in a vehicle, and by deffinition of the curfew there was no confinment to camp and therefore nothing stopping people who lived close by going home.
The curfew was liffted on sunday.
There is also no 2 can rule not even a 3, 4 or 5 can one.
Your posts were a good read anyway.
I look forward to the first novel.
So Middleground,
If you walked back from seeing the wife you could be back by 2330, if you drove back 2300. But you had to be back......................
What century do these idiots live in?
If you walked back from seeing the wife you could be back by 2330, if you drove back 2300. But you had to be back......................
What century do these idiots live in?
