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Typhoon Wheels-up Trial in China Lake?

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Old 25th Apr 2008, 17:14
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Charizma

I think you may have heard very wrong about the first part of your first sentence. Second part is quite correct (excusing the inevitable hangover).

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What about the Buccaneer wheels up at Lossie, sometime in the 90s. Think the jet was perfectly serviceable until it touched terra firma - front seater went on to fly little red jets very close to each other and the back seater is a very senior officer at High Wycombe. But of course theres no gear indicator in the back of a Bucc .... or is there? Not to be confused with the other Bucc which landed wheels up because it had to - wasn't you was it? Never seen aircrew run so fast in the egress!
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 17:15
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A GR4 rolled at night at Waddington on the CBLS's...does happen in twin seat.
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But both of the GR4 crew were pilots.

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Wink Wheels up

At Cottesmore during Triple TE days a German landed wheels up. Hand on undercarriage lever when the a/c bounced. Wheels went up and a/c landed. I don't know if it was a twin stick variant.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 18:29
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F4 drop tank "roller" at Leuchars in the mid 80s. ISTR the pilot was an extremely talented pianist; he just forgot to tinkle the ivory when required.
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Not RAF, but didn't a B-1B make a landing sans wheels in Diego Garcia? Does the equal number of pilots and wsops cancel this one out?
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 20:21
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Lurkin,

you are correct, a very tallented pianist, and had a great tallent for the organ also...... I understand.

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Old 25th Apr 2008, 20:38
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BlackTorch: My recollection is slightly different and I was told it happened twice, the first with a German QFI and an Italian learner, preselected U/C up on take off run ,as soon as the WOW switches operated the U/C went up and the aircraft dropped and contacted the runway, the German QFI managed to get it in the air. The second incident had the same combination (but not the same crew), but this one did not manage to get in the air. If I remember correctly the aircraft did not take long to fix and this practice was stopped after this.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 20:59
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Conningsby denial weapon!
Always remember WO Rects sqn deciding HE would be the MAN to wield the sledgehammer, they don't make them like that anymore!!
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 21:25
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Never seen aircrew run so fast in the egress!

They might have had some competition from the crew of the Lightning twin-seater I saw at Akrotiri back in '87, after ATC had informed them of a suspect fire in the tailpipe area...

That was quite an eventful week, what with the 5 Sqn aircraft that in effect shot itself down during APC. It ingested debris from the banner spreader bar, lost one engine, then the other gave up during finals. The pilot (Flt Lt Chan, if I remember correctly) banged out so low that by the time we piled outside following the crash siren there was no parachute to be seen, and we all assumed he'd gone in with the aircraft until the Stn Cdr came on the tannoy half an hour later to announce that he was unhurt.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 23:41
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Right, straightforward question, those who don't know the answer can shut the f#@+ up. Which Typhoon, how many wheels were down? Aircraft provisional Cat?
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Tornado wheels up at TTTE

The Tornado wheels up at Cottesmore in the early 1990s was due to the pilot inadvertantly selecting gear up as he crossed the threshold on landing. The gear started its retraction sequence just before touchdown and the jet slid along most of the runway before stopping on the centreline on its belly. Some spotter filmed it and the video was shown on the ITV news shortly after the incident. It was a probable cognitive failure, the pilot had intended to cancel an audio warning but his hand did its own thing and put the gear lever up instead!

IIRC, there were two pilots in the jet, but there was nothing the rear seater could have done.

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Old 26th Apr 2008, 09:45
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Ex rigger. You can't preselect the gear up. If you o/ride the wow and select up, the gear will do what you've asked it to.
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Old 26th Apr 2008, 09:56
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I can't recall an inadvertant "wheels up" with a nav on board, but I'm sure there's someone out there who will let me know.

There was a Bucc at Lossie which landed inadvertantly wheels up sometime during 92 or 93! The rear seater went on to be an AOC!
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Right, straightforward question, those who don't know the answer can shut the f#@+ up. Which Typhoon, how many wheels were down? Aircraft provisional Cat?
One of the grey ones (I think it may have been a CGY aircraft).

Less than three.

Between 1 & 5


Only trying to be helpful.
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Old 26th Apr 2008, 10:56
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Wrathmonk and Lord E, thanks for the head up,(no pun intended!). No, there's no u/c indicator in the back of a Bucc, but the survival insticts of a nav is normally sufficient.... suppose I must know the "AOC- to -be" in the back. Thanks old boy for proving me wrong. My wheels up was another generation (Barney Rubble time) in a B15 Canberra, and sadly my pilot is no longer with us after a mid air with terra firma and his Jag - (RIP Geordie)
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Old 26th Apr 2008, 21:11
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I have some video. But it's NWS.
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Old 26th Apr 2008, 21:15
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Originally Posted by On_The_Top_Bunk
I have some video. But it's NWS.

Is it FOUO?
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Old 26th Apr 2008, 22:04
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Can anyone tell me if the refueling probe was out when it landed???

and any chance of posting the video or still frames??

PS what does NWS mean?? is it "not with sound"???
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Old 26th Apr 2008, 23:34
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Ignore my stupidity please........

FOUO is probably very relevant in this case.
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