Typhoon Wheels-up Trial in China Lake?
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Careful now or my secret superhero identity might be revealed to the detriment of world safety... Besides, currently sunning myself in the US of A for 4 months so no such luck!
Now get back to the rugrats and vineyards and say hello to the missus for me.
Now get back to the rugrats and vineyards and say hello to the missus for me.
Twr to pilot....'errr confirm ops normal?' [RAAF F-4E just does a 'scrape' and go at Amberley AFB circa 1974]
Pilot to nav....'we had wheels on that touch and go???'
...."must have!"
Pilot to nav....'we had wheels on that touch and go???'
...."must have!"
Pilot to nav....'we had wheels on that touch and go???'
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I can understand having system failures but the GIF forgets to put the bloody wheels down. It's not exactly the rocket science part of the trip? plus are there not a set of checks to do??
Still, even the best of us can have blonde moments, I had so many I dyed my hair. 1 trip to the swo for a chat, nope no coffee and biscuits forthcoming. final score swo won, badass mofo J/T didn't.
Hope the driver is ok though.
Still, even the best of us can have blonde moments, I had so many I dyed my hair. 1 trip to the swo for a chat, nope no coffee and biscuits forthcoming. final score swo won, badass mofo J/T didn't.
Hope the driver is ok though.
No, it would not fit, as Typhoon is 15.96m (52ft 4in) long, 10.95m (35ft 11in) wide and 5.28m (17ft 4in) high.
The cargo bay of the C-17, which is 88 ft (26.82 m) long, 18 ft (5.48 m) wide, and 12.33 ft (3.76 m) high.
Typhoon could probably do a high speed 180 degree turn in the area occupied by a C-17.
The cargo bay of the C-17, which is 88 ft (26.82 m) long, 18 ft (5.48 m) wide, and 12.33 ft (3.76 m) high.
Typhoon could probably do a high speed 180 degree turn in the area occupied by a C-17.
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Assuming no-one was hurt - except the taxpayer - this has been one of the most amusing threads I've seen lately ( re. the replies ) !
Off thread for a moment, speaking of taxpayers; isn't it strange that £4 billion for a couple of aircraft carriers is regarded obscene, while £50 billion to help banks who " privatise their profits and nationalise their losses " is given out within the blink of an eye ?!
Back to subject -
As a mere pleb' photographer, a poor substitute for a Navigator - tried that on little aeroplanes & the biggest problem was convincing el piloto he'd got it wrong - I always tried to be useful looking at instruments, colliding aircraft etc and did among other things prevent a take-off with 2 greens in our PA-44 by an ex-Lightning pilot - as he said, in a remarkably P'd off tone, " it's always the simple ones that get you ".
I expect if this did happen with the Europhoon, there were so many 'whoop whoop' tones and voice warnings the poor bloke couldn't hear himself think.
Incidentally I would dearly like to see a Typhoon do a 180 in the footprint of a C-17 and would be the first to applaud !
Off thread for a moment, speaking of taxpayers; isn't it strange that £4 billion for a couple of aircraft carriers is regarded obscene, while £50 billion to help banks who " privatise their profits and nationalise their losses " is given out within the blink of an eye ?!
Back to subject -
As a mere pleb' photographer, a poor substitute for a Navigator - tried that on little aeroplanes & the biggest problem was convincing el piloto he'd got it wrong - I always tried to be useful looking at instruments, colliding aircraft etc and did among other things prevent a take-off with 2 greens in our PA-44 by an ex-Lightning pilot - as he said, in a remarkably P'd off tone, " it's always the simple ones that get you ".
I expect if this did happen with the Europhoon, there were so many 'whoop whoop' tones and voice warnings the poor bloke couldn't hear himself think.
Incidentally I would dearly like to see a Typhoon do a 180 in the footprint of a C-17 and would be the first to applaud !
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Don't shoot the messenger! I've also seen rumours that this airframe was ZJ943 on loan to 17 Sqn!
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-incident.html
'Believed to be assigned to the RAF’s Coningsby-based 17 Sqn Operational Evaluation Unit, the aircraft “sustained damage on landing,” the RAF says. The pilot did not eject from the aircraft, which came to rest on the runway, and was not injured in the mishap.
“The damage is still being assessed,” says an RAF source, who adds that a Board of Inquiry has already been established to investigate the cause of the accident. The service’s remaining fleet of almost 50 Typhoons – including aircraft providing permanent quick reaction alert duties for the southern UK from Coningsby – has not been grounded, and “there is no suggestion of airworthiness being compromised,” the source adds.'
TJ
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-incident.html
'Believed to be assigned to the RAF’s Coningsby-based 17 Sqn Operational Evaluation Unit, the aircraft “sustained damage on landing,” the RAF says. The pilot did not eject from the aircraft, which came to rest on the runway, and was not injured in the mishap.
“The damage is still being assessed,” says an RAF source, who adds that a Board of Inquiry has already been established to investigate the cause of the accident. The service’s remaining fleet of almost 50 Typhoons – including aircraft providing permanent quick reaction alert duties for the southern UK from Coningsby – has not been grounded, and “there is no suggestion of airworthiness being compromised,” the source adds.'
TJ
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Maybe there's a design snag in the audio warning system - carbon fibre just doesn't give that instinctive scraping sound; also available as a doppler - effect yell if with a Navigator !
I don't know about the Typhoon, but when G-Hawk was fitted with 'moaning Minnie' some Test Pilot's first action was to reach for the switch / circuit breaker as it got on their ***'s...
I remember a tale related here a while ago where an airliner had failed to take the turn-off assigned by a female ATC - when asked why, the reply was, " sorry, you sound so much like my wife I automatically ignored you ".
I don't know about the Typhoon, but when G-Hawk was fitted with 'moaning Minnie' some Test Pilot's first action was to reach for the switch / circuit breaker as it got on their ***'s...
I remember a tale related here a while ago where an airliner had failed to take the turn-off assigned by a female ATC - when asked why, the reply was, " sorry, you sound so much like my wife I automatically ignored you ".
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Don't these fancy modern jets have a sweet little vioce that say's 'TOO LOW GEAR" or words to that affect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APiiKsH0dR4
I like the quote from the Sun:
But it can afford to 'train' William Wales who will never be an operational pilot.
Wales may not have used £3 million, but I wonder what the actual cost to the RAF was?. Would the MOD be able to find that data if an FOI request was put in, or would they simply claim that 'all training costs for HRH were within various budgets and just cannot be separated'.
Of interest is this little snippet.
Is it possible there are other faults in the LGC?.
But the pilot is unlikely to be sacked even if he was to blame. The RAF cannot afford to lose a flier who cost £3million to train
Wales may not have used £3 million, but I wonder what the actual cost to the RAF was?. Would the MOD be able to find that data if an FOI request was put in, or would they simply claim that 'all training costs for HRH were within various budgets and just cannot be separated'.
Of interest is this little snippet.
The third and potentially most serious problem revolved around the aircraft's Landing Gear Computer (LGC). There had been at least 18 failures of the LGC, including one which grounded the whole fleet on October 10th 2003. QinetiQ considered that there was an unquantifiable risk that the Weight-on-Wheels relays could become corrupted, leading to the FCS switching from "Flight" to "Ground" mode, which would be "immediately catastrophic". QinetiQ therefore recommended that RTS be delayed while the LGC anomalies were further investigated. The Typhoon IPT did not include this recommendation in the RTS however, as it considered that the risk of a catastrophic failure was so small as to be acceptable.
Is it possible there are other faults in the LGC?.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlaJJ...&feature=email
He may just have done what this French pilot did.....
watp,iktch
He may just have done what this French pilot did.....
watp,iktch