Charizma
I think you may have heard very wrong about the first part of your first sentence. Second part is quite correct (excusing the inevitable hangover
).
R-O-G
What about the Buccaneer wheels up at Lossie, sometime in the 90s. Think the jet was perfectly serviceable until it touched terra firma - front seater went on to fly little red jets very close to each other and the back seater is a very senior officer at High Wycombe. But of course theres no gear indicator in the back of a Bucc .... or is there? Not to be confused with the other Bucc which landed wheels up because it had to - wasn't you was it? Never seen aircrew run so fast in the egress!