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Shutup_and_drive 25th Apr 2008 11:42

Typhoon Wheels-up Trial in China Lake?
 
My friends in low places tell me the Typhoon "Finals-No-Greens-Land-Buggah" trial has just been completed in China Lake... can anyone corroborate?

Rumour has it that it wouldn't have happened if there'd been a Nav in the back... discuss
... and runs away bravely... :rolleyes:

Romeo Oscar Golf 25th Apr 2008 11:50

Agreed, all RAF aircraft should have a minimum of two engines, two seats and one Navigator (and I mean Navigator):p

airborne_artist 25th Apr 2008 11:53

and what difference would a directional consultant have made?

Dan D'air 25th Apr 2008 11:56

AA, Ask john fairr, he has several interesting tales to tell................:}

Chugalug2 25th Apr 2008 12:04


and what difference would a directional consultant have made?
Presumably that the drinks would have been on two, rather than the one, bar books. Either way, Chugalug!

johnfairr 25th Apr 2008 12:19

That's my reputation shot to hell then, Dan! Being replaced by a bunch of volts, amps and micro-chips is a sad indictment of the hours spent spinning my Magic Prayer Wheel in the back of various aircraft . . .

jf

Shutup_and_drive 25th Apr 2008 12:32

Auto Pilot v IN
 
Interesting to note that the Autopilot was invented before the Inertial Nav, so draw your own conclusion as to what was perceived to be the far more difficult job... :8

Romeo Oscar Golf 25th Apr 2008 12:46

I can't recall an inadvertant "wheels up" with a nav on board, but I'm sure there's someone out there who will let me know.( I have been in a wheels up, but as it was a total hyd failure it was deliberate- or eject)
However, back to the main "story", Su and D, what's the detail on the China Lake incident?

ZH875 25th Apr 2008 13:01


Originally Posted by Shutup_and_drive (Post 4073372)
Interesting to note that the Autopilot was invented before the Inertial Nav, so draw your own conclusion as to what was perceived to be the far more difficult job... :8

And they still haven't invented the automatic groundcrew, so draw your own conclusions from that one.

If there was a 'low level' landing, hope the driver climbed out ok, but he better not wash his shreddies in the Heritage laundry....:ooh:

Duncano 25th Apr 2008 13:03

Surely 'Bitching Betty' or 'Nagging Norah' would have been dishing out advice all the way to the crash site!
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KiloB 25th Apr 2008 13:07

Automated Ground Crew
 
I suppose it is possible that the simpler jobs are automated first??!!:O

Gainesy 25th Apr 2008 13:16

Automatic barriers back that theory.:E

johnfairr 25th Apr 2008 13:20

Ah, Gainesy, another effort of deadly accuracy . . . great start to a Friday afternoon, I can feel the virtual pint being poured as we speak!

Top shot, sir!

jf

Safety_Helmut 25th Apr 2008 13:38


Well I suppose it does make it easier for the highly trained aircraft technicians and all of the other RAF Trades (except the RAFP) who are forced to do gate guard.
all down to availability of police dogs !

S_H

fastener 25th Apr 2008 14:07

By all means have a Nav, gives the pilot something to eat while he waits for the rescue chopper to pick him up but I think he's there for more than a manual landing config warning.

GPMG 25th Apr 2008 15:11

Is it to be the ugly/uninteresting one whilst the pilot is out on the pull?

Loopdeloop 25th Apr 2008 15:42

Difference between an IN and a Nav anyone?

You only have to punch the information into an IN once......

artyhug 25th Apr 2008 16:09

Difference between a thousand pounder and a Nav?


Not all thousand pounders are retarded...

Charizma 25th Apr 2008 16:58

Pilot ejected on the ground and is fine from what i hear.

Was no emergency crew on standby during finals, suggesting no Pan call.

SammySu 25th Apr 2008 17:06

Thought the Typhoon downwind checks had just the one line anyway? Less than xxxkts ...... Gear Down.? Or is this the trial solution to stopping all the bits falling off in the circuit when you did so? ;)

Glad you're ok anyhow, jets are expendable.


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