Ghurka Rifleman PUN VC. Triumph! (Merged)
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It seems that the chaps from the Gurkhas should break into WMUH and leave something nasty in Mr Findlay's coffee machine.
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Awful, just awful. A fine example of the moronic management that makes most taxpayers despair of the NHS. Finlay should be sacked and/or strung up for Kukri practise.
Best regards to Mr Pun.
Best regards to Mr Pun.
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My first post on Pprune. My last job was as an Immigration Officer. To my knowledge, there is no difference between the status conferred by Indefinite Leave to Remain and Indefinite Leave to Enter. ILR is issued to people who are already in the UK; ILE is issued to allow the ready admittance of those arriving for the first time to become resident. Thus, to me, this braindead petty bureaucrat was not only wrong morally, but also does not understand the basis of his decision making. I wonder how many other souls he has incorrectly denied treatment? How do people like this sleep at night?
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Thus, to me, this braindead petty bureaucrat was not only wrong morally, but also does not understand the basis of his decision making.
Can pprune, along with our friends from arrse and rum ration start an operation on the lines of the Grays Lane campaign to flood the Chief Executive, the Trust Chairman and the Board with letters and e-mails reflecting our anger and disgust at Finlays foolishness.
Maybe the trust Board should call this person, I hesitate to use the word, man to appear before them and give reasons for his actions and verbally give an apology to Mr Pun VC.
There is a system within the West Middlesex Hospital to sack this man for bringing the Trust into disrepute and gross misconduct.
Maybe the trust Board should call this person, I hesitate to use the word, man to appear before them and give reasons for his actions and verbally give an apology to Mr Pun VC.
There is a system within the West Middlesex Hospital to sack this man for bringing the Trust into disrepute and gross misconduct.
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By the way Mr Finlay the 'income generator' is from Liverpool
As a former NHS employee (Nursing not Admin) I am thoroughly embarrassed by Mr Finlay's actions as I am sure most people will be.
air pig has the correct solution when (s)he says
There is a system within the West Middlesex Hospital to sack this man for bringing the Trust into disrepute and gross misconduct.
The Chief Executive Officer
West Middlesex University Hospital NHS Trust
Twickenham Road
Isleworth
Middlesex
TW7 6AF
DX Wombat,
Air pig is a he ! and thank you for defending Liverpudlians, we are not all the same and even the worst of us would be head and shoulders above Finlay, preferably stood on his head and shoulders holding him under the swamp from which he has tried to crawl, apologies to other swamp dwellers for having to share with this thing.
A quick google search ( don't you just love open information )
the Chief Executive is a, Tara Donnelly and the Chairman is a, Sue Ellen add to the usual wmuh.nhs.uk I suspect firstname.surmane profile.
So all ppruner,'s start the campaign and let Finlays managers know what you think about him.
Air pig is a he ! and thank you for defending Liverpudlians, we are not all the same and even the worst of us would be head and shoulders above Finlay, preferably stood on his head and shoulders holding him under the swamp from which he has tried to crawl, apologies to other swamp dwellers for having to share with this thing.
A quick google search ( don't you just love open information )
the Chief Executive is a, Tara Donnelly and the Chairman is a, Sue Ellen add to the usual wmuh.nhs.uk I suspect firstname.surmane profile.
So all ppruner,'s start the campaign and let Finlays managers know what you think about him.
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After all that was achieved to get a 180 by the Home Office, after all the good news about Mr Pun VC's excellent medical progress, we get Mr Finlay. By all means contact his Chief Executive, but I would suggest that the CEO needs to feel real pressure, ie from his bosses! Contact your MP and make a complaint about this unacceptable face of the NHS. If enough do so it will have the same effect as the Immigration Minister's Road to Damascus brought to him via PPRuNe and others. You'll find your MP and the means to send them your message at:
www.theyworkforyou.com
Hopefully it will concentrate the minds of other jobsworths when they find out where messing with a VC gets you!
www.theyworkforyou.com
Hopefully it will concentrate the minds of other jobsworths when they find out where messing with a VC gets you!
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Perhaps the local Press in Isleworth may take an interest if it were brought to their attention.
It would seem unlikely that this would be the only such incident in which Mr Finlay has been involved.
It would seem unlikely that this would be the only such incident in which Mr Finlay has been involved.
Letter to Chief Exec and Trust chairperson sent now, letters to politicians later tonight. Keep ramping up the pressure on this odious little man and make his employers aware of the disgust that we feel for him.
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Here's a line up of the odious idiots bosses:
Trust Board
firstname.surname @ wmuh.nhs.uk seems to be the correct format
As a marketing consultant I've offered my services to help develop any new staff training courses they might suddenly feel in need of
Trust Board
firstname.surname @ wmuh.nhs.uk seems to be the correct format
As a marketing consultant I've offered my services to help develop any new staff training courses they might suddenly feel in need of
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Just sent this to the CEO:
Recent media coverage regarding the abominable behaviour of Mr Andrew Finlay, your "income generation manager" has compelled me to write to you. As I am sure you are no doubt by no aware, Mr Finlay was involved in an incident with Mr Tul Bahadur Pun VC, during which Mr Pun was ejected from West Middlesex Univeristy Hospital and refused treatment.
In case you are unaware of Mr Pun's history, a brief summary can be found here: Tul Bahadur Pun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Should your no doubt hectic schedule preclude you from reading the full text, I shall precis it by simply saying that Tul Bahadur Pun is one of only ten living recipients of the Victoria Cross and his actions during the Second World War demand that he be treated with dignity, respect and compassion by all of us.
Mr Finlay on the other hand, seems to be a buffoon. Judging from his comments to the BBC on the 29th of April, he seems to think he is some sort of enforcer. His recent bullying behaviour should make you, as Chief Executive, deeply ashamed.
Be under no illusion as to the strength of feeling that has been generated by Mr Finlay's actions. The campaign to allow Mr Pun in to the UK changed the minds of senior Home Office officials. The same people, organisations and websites are now united in calling for the resignation of Mr Finlay and a full public apology.
I await you response with interest.
Recent media coverage regarding the abominable behaviour of Mr Andrew Finlay, your "income generation manager" has compelled me to write to you. As I am sure you are no doubt by no aware, Mr Finlay was involved in an incident with Mr Tul Bahadur Pun VC, during which Mr Pun was ejected from West Middlesex Univeristy Hospital and refused treatment.
In case you are unaware of Mr Pun's history, a brief summary can be found here: Tul Bahadur Pun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Should your no doubt hectic schedule preclude you from reading the full text, I shall precis it by simply saying that Tul Bahadur Pun is one of only ten living recipients of the Victoria Cross and his actions during the Second World War demand that he be treated with dignity, respect and compassion by all of us.
Mr Finlay on the other hand, seems to be a buffoon. Judging from his comments to the BBC on the 29th of April, he seems to think he is some sort of enforcer. His recent bullying behaviour should make you, as Chief Executive, deeply ashamed.
Be under no illusion as to the strength of feeling that has been generated by Mr Finlay's actions. The campaign to allow Mr Pun in to the UK changed the minds of senior Home Office officials. The same people, organisations and websites are now united in calling for the resignation of Mr Finlay and a full public apology.
I await you response with interest.
DX Wombat
I am terrified to say it but 'calm down'. It was a JOKE hence the after the phrase. If you cannot take military style banter, then stay off the military forum.
Molemot
You are 100% correct. Checked today with a friend who is a Lawyer who specialises in such things. He should never have been refused treatment as he was entitled, end of story.
I am terrified to say it but 'calm down'. It was a JOKE hence the
after the phrase. If you cannot take military style banter, then stay off the military forum.Molemot
To my knowledge, there is no difference between the status conferred by Indefinite Leave to Remain and Indefinite Leave to Enter. ILR is issued to people who are already in the UK; ILE is issued to allow the ready admittance of those arriving for the first time to become resident.
Well said goldcup. Herewith my twopenneth. Email to my MP next. Drown WMUH in outrage and get shot of Mr Finlay. He sounds more at home outside a club minding the door anyway!
Dear Ms Donnelly,
As CEO to the West Middlesex University Hospital you will no doubt be only too aware of the case of Mr Pun VC and the appalling way that he was treated by your Income Generating Manager, Mr Andrew Finlay.
Mr Tul Bahadur Pun is a man that everyone in this country owes a very special debt to as he is one of only ten surviving VCs. His presence in this country is only because of the overwhelming outrage at the government's refusal to allow him entry as he hadn't demonstrated a sufficiently close association with the UK! Once they had been shown the error in their ways he was welcomed by his fellow Ghurkhas at Heathrow. I was privileged to have witnessed that emotional scene. Thereafter we learnt that he was receiving the medical treatment that he so desperately needed and was making excellent progress, very much due to your own superb medical professionals. I salute them all! Thence arrives Mr Finlay. Oblivious to all that I have just outlined he demands payment for past present and future treatment from this frail old war hero. If you dispute this account I have it from:
Gurkha, 87, who won the VC returns war medals to Downing Street after being refused free hospital care | Mail Online
Never mind the fact that it's the Mail, if it's a lie denounce them. If it is for the most part true, sack Mr Finlay. You are going to be faced with enormous outrage over this incident. Action now will serve to dissipate it. I am writing separately to my MP who supported my previous entreaties on behalf of Mr Pun. I trust that she will do so again, and that you in turn will be hearing from your superiors.
Very sincerely,
Chug
As CEO to the West Middlesex University Hospital you will no doubt be only too aware of the case of Mr Pun VC and the appalling way that he was treated by your Income Generating Manager, Mr Andrew Finlay.
Mr Tul Bahadur Pun is a man that everyone in this country owes a very special debt to as he is one of only ten surviving VCs. His presence in this country is only because of the overwhelming outrage at the government's refusal to allow him entry as he hadn't demonstrated a sufficiently close association with the UK! Once they had been shown the error in their ways he was welcomed by his fellow Ghurkhas at Heathrow. I was privileged to have witnessed that emotional scene. Thereafter we learnt that he was receiving the medical treatment that he so desperately needed and was making excellent progress, very much due to your own superb medical professionals. I salute them all! Thence arrives Mr Finlay. Oblivious to all that I have just outlined he demands payment for past present and future treatment from this frail old war hero. If you dispute this account I have it from:
Gurkha, 87, who won the VC returns war medals to Downing Street after being refused free hospital care | Mail Online
Never mind the fact that it's the Mail, if it's a lie denounce them. If it is for the most part true, sack Mr Finlay. You are going to be faced with enormous outrage over this incident. Action now will serve to dissipate it. I am writing separately to my MP who supported my previous entreaties on behalf of Mr Pun. I trust that she will do so again, and that you in turn will be hearing from your superiors.
Very sincerely,
Chug
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Infection Hazard
Why are people like Mr Findlay allowed at the bedside of any patient ?
Obviously they pose a serious infection hazard, there are already sufficient
of those in UK hospitals.My opinion is that such people can never be sanitised
sufficiently to be allowed near any sick people.
John
Obviously they pose a serious infection hazard, there are already sufficient
of those in UK hospitals.My opinion is that such people can never be sanitised
sufficiently to be allowed near any sick people.
John
"Apoplectic of PPRuNe" offering to my MP:
Dear Chug's MP,
I was shocked to read at:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1029303/Gurkha-87-won-VC-returns-war-medals-Downing-Street-refused-free-hospital-care.html
that Mr Tul Bahadur Pun VC (now 87) has stopped receiving NHS treatment as of this week following a demand for payment in full for all past present and future treatment. You have very kindly assisted my previous entreaties on behalf of Mr Pun VC, and the ensuing reversal of entry refusal together with NHS treatment provision for his urgent medical needs was most satisfying. We all felt a tremendous gratitude to the NHS medical professionals at the West Middlesex University Hospital when we learned of his excellent progress there. Until this week, when following the intervention of an “Income Generating Manager”, one Mr Andrew Finlay, this frail but gallant gentleman was forced to quit the hospital. I suspect that you share with me a sense of outrage at how this Gurkha War Hero has been treated. As one of only ten surviving VC holders we owe him more than we could ever repay. All we can do is treat him with the greatest consideration and respect while he is still with us. Mr Finlay’s actions were the complete antithesis of that and he should be sacked forthwith. Once again I am ashamed of the actions of my country’s apparatchiks and their dealings with this brave but vulnerable gentleman. I suspect my protest will be one of many thousands which will once again have to be responded to belatedly by Whitehall.
Yours sincerely,
Chug
Dear Chug's MP,
I was shocked to read at:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1029303/Gurkha-87-won-VC-returns-war-medals-Downing-Street-refused-free-hospital-care.html
that Mr Tul Bahadur Pun VC (now 87) has stopped receiving NHS treatment as of this week following a demand for payment in full for all past present and future treatment. You have very kindly assisted my previous entreaties on behalf of Mr Pun VC, and the ensuing reversal of entry refusal together with NHS treatment provision for his urgent medical needs was most satisfying. We all felt a tremendous gratitude to the NHS medical professionals at the West Middlesex University Hospital when we learned of his excellent progress there. Until this week, when following the intervention of an “Income Generating Manager”, one Mr Andrew Finlay, this frail but gallant gentleman was forced to quit the hospital. I suspect that you share with me a sense of outrage at how this Gurkha War Hero has been treated. As one of only ten surviving VC holders we owe him more than we could ever repay. All we can do is treat him with the greatest consideration and respect while he is still with us. Mr Finlay’s actions were the complete antithesis of that and he should be sacked forthwith. Once again I am ashamed of the actions of my country’s apparatchiks and their dealings with this brave but vulnerable gentleman. I suspect my protest will be one of many thousands which will once again have to be responded to belatedly by Whitehall.
Yours sincerely,
Chug
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As a [comparitively] infrequent poster, what really gives me a lift and reinforces my faith in human nature, is the way we ex-service people, and some here in particular set about righting wrongs. In a calm and dignified, but nonetheless forceful manner. Go get 'em Chug!
I've written too, not that they're likely to take any notice of antipodean disgust at the action of one of their employees.
The man is living proof that not everything in life has a purpose but, sadly, I bet there are others like him in the system.
I've written too, not that they're likely to take any notice of antipodean disgust at the action of one of their employees.
The man is living proof that not everything in life has a purpose but, sadly, I bet there are others like him in the system.
Samuel, thank you for your encouragement! The power of the Internet is clearly demonstrated by your post, when supporters of that which is right combine from one end of the world to the other to protest against that which is wrong. All power to your elbow for speaking up for Mr Pun VC. Do not underestimate the power of antipodean outrage. Each of us is but a speck, but together we are a tidal wave, pouring in even now to the in tray of the CEO WMUH!
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I did my bit for Mr Pun VC and his fellows a while back, through my MP (who turned out to care, and took time to do something about it).
I shall now do my bit again, against this appalling little man, Andrew Finlay.
I'm farked if the huge taxes I'm subjected to are going to sustain him a second longer than they must.
Resignation is the only decent way out for him, after which he might be granted the beginnings of rehabilitation as a human being. I used to think that those who said we in the 'United' Kingdom were going to hell in a hand cart were getting carried away...
I shall now do my bit again, against this appalling little man, Andrew Finlay.
I'm farked if the huge taxes I'm subjected to are going to sustain him a second longer than they must.
Resignation is the only decent way out for him, after which he might be granted the beginnings of rehabilitation as a human being. I used to think that those who said we in the 'United' Kingdom were going to hell in a hand cart were getting carried away...
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