Lebanon Operations, Strikes, and Evacuation Discussions (Merged)
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Good question maybe they can, its just that my autoroute didn't do lebanon to cyprus via 'Air'! And seeing as I didn't have an Atlas to hand I had no idea how far it was.
Now I have looked and I see it is:
Between Beirut, Lebanon and Nicosia, Cyprus, as the crow flies:154 miles (247 km) (134 nautical miles)
so they should be ok, if they only carry 2 small children and a goat.
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Originally Posted by Mr-AEO
But SB! They are 'Army' helicopters aren't they? seeing as you are under JHC command and all that
. Just jostling. Good point made in your post.
A few Jungly friends of mine have been called in at 12 hrs NTM and getting sent to Cyprus.
Question is: What's the SK4's/6c's going to get done there? Surely they can't reach Lebanon from there, so presumably they will be ferrying people from the ships to shore? Furthermore, why do they need extra maintainers on Cyprus if they haven't got cabs? And if they have cabs on Bulwark, then they must have Maintainers on Bulwark so why do they need more? It's not making sense at moment because too many missing pieces of the puzzle - anyone shed any light on this?
. Just jostling. Good point made in your post.A few Jungly friends of mine have been called in at 12 hrs NTM and getting sent to Cyprus.
Question is: What's the SK4's/6c's going to get done there? Surely they can't reach Lebanon from there, so presumably they will be ferrying people from the ships to shore? Furthermore, why do they need extra maintainers on Cyprus if they haven't got cabs? And if they have cabs on Bulwark, then they must have Maintainers on Bulwark so why do they need more? It's not making sense at moment because too many missing pieces of the puzzle - anyone shed any light on this?
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Originally Posted by MReyn24050
I totally agree, I also have had the good fortune to travel the world and seen some real "****holes". Roadster280 must not have visited the Isreal I have had the pleasure to visit.
http://www.forumsci.co.il/HPLC/Israel_page_Virtual.html
http://www.forumsci.co.il/HPLC/Israel_page_Virtual.html
Don't get me wrong, Egypt and Saudi are much more ****holes, but if I never go back to Israel again, it will be no loss.
I find it hard to accept that the response to border attacks is to bomb the international airport. Imagine if the UK had totalled Buenos Aires international Airport over the Falkland Islands?
Neither side is right in this, but I stand by my comments regarding the Israel I saw. It's not a third world country, but neither is it the "promised land".
Nor was Europe or Russia based upon the pogroms, persecution, and genocide perpetrated by those nations against those of the Jewish faith.
Perhaps it was a poor trade, Jews for Muslims. Maybe the current problems the Western world is having due to the Fundamentalist Islamists is a bit of well earned payback for those past misdeeds.
Perhaps it was a poor trade, Jews for Muslims. Maybe the current problems the Western world is having due to the Fundamentalist Islamists is a bit of well earned payback for those past misdeeds.
Meanwhile....
700 Indians evacuated from Lebanon
How many Brits are there, anyway? They took out 700 Indians and a few others (Nepali etc) with three destroyers, including the blessed INS Mumbai.
and stop staring at that miss world contestant on the right!
700 Indians evacuated from Lebanon
How many Brits are there, anyway? They took out 700 Indians and a few others (Nepali etc) with three destroyers, including the blessed INS Mumbai.
and stop staring at that miss world contestant on the right!
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
How many Brits are there, anyway?
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Well, at least we know we are leaving one deserving case behind.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/5201956.stm
All those who think that they are going to the UK on Warship take one step forward.
Where do you think you are going, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/5201956.stm
All those who think that they are going to the UK on Warship take one step forward.
Where do you think you are going, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed.....
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Originally Posted by PompeySailor
Well, at least we know we are leaving one deserving case behind.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/5201956.stm
All those who think that they are going to the UK on Warship take one step forward.
Where do you think you are going, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/5201956.stm
All those who think that they are going to the UK on Warship take one step forward.
Where do you think you are going, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed.....
It should be shown to all of his disciples, what a brave chap
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"The boredom of their 12-hour journey was relieved by screenings of Harry Potter films in the officers' quarters and handouts of sweets."
Just like any normal passage on the Grey Funnel Line then.
Just like any normal passage on the Grey Funnel Line then.
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There are photos on the web of what purports to be sailors helping Lebanese (or rather, English) children with their colouring books. I would like to confirm that in fact the child is helping the sailor with his Task Book.
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Originally Posted by Roadster280
Well, I've been to Tel Aviv, Ra'nana, Haifa, Jerusalem and Bethlehem. What struck me was the poverty. The dirty cities, ****ty cars, the scruffy looking military all over the place, the whores, the deserted building sites, it just was a million miles from the "Jewel of the Middle East" that I had expected. I will say that the food there was excellent.
Don't get me wrong, Egypt and Saudi are much more ****holes, but if I never go back to Israel again, it will be no loss.
I find it hard to accept that the response to border attacks is to bomb the international airport. Imagine if the UK had totalled Buenos Aires international Airport over the Falkland Islands?
Neither side is right in this, but I stand by my comments regarding the Israel I saw. It's not a third world country, but neither is it the "promised land".
Don't get me wrong, Egypt and Saudi are much more ****holes, but if I never go back to Israel again, it will be no loss.
I find it hard to accept that the response to border attacks is to bomb the international airport. Imagine if the UK had totalled Buenos Aires international Airport over the Falkland Islands?
Neither side is right in this, but I stand by my comments regarding the Israel I saw. It's not a third world country, but neither is it the "promised land".
Reg: All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
Attendee: Brought peace?
Reg: Oh, peace -- shut up!
Attendee: Brought peace?
Reg: Oh, peace -- shut up!
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Originally Posted by Roadster280
Well, I've been to Tel Aviv, Ra'nana, Haifa, Jerusalem and Bethlehem. What struck me was the poverty. The dirty cities, ****ty cars, the scruffy looking military all over the place, the whores, the deserted building sites, it just was a million miles from the "Jewel of the Middle East" that I had expected. I will say that the food there was excellent.
Tel Aviv:-
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Originally Posted by Roadster280
Well, I've been to Tel Aviv, Ra'nana, Haifa, Jerusalem and Bethlehem. What struck me was the poverty. The dirty cities, ****ty cars, the scruffy looking military all over the place, the whores, the deserted building sites, it just was a million miles from the "Jewel of the Middle East" that I had expected. I will say that the food there was excellent.
Don't get me wrong, Egypt and Saudi are much more ****holes, but if I never go back to Israel again, it will be no loss.
I find it hard to accept that the response to border attacks is to bomb the international airport. Imagine if the UK had totalled Buenos Aires international Airport over the Falkland Islands?
Neither side is right in this, but I stand by my comments regarding the Israel I saw. It's not a third world country, but neither is it the "promised land".
Don't get me wrong, Egypt and Saudi are much more ****holes, but if I never go back to Israel again, it will be no loss.
I find it hard to accept that the response to border attacks is to bomb the international airport. Imagine if the UK had totalled Buenos Aires international Airport over the Falkland Islands?
Neither side is right in this, but I stand by my comments regarding the Israel I saw. It's not a third world country, but neither is it the "promised land".
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Johnny Howard made a call to his best buddy "Steve" Harper about help getting the Aussies back. Interesting that 50,000 Canadians in Leb is per capita about the same as 25,000 Aussies. In any case, Howard should have called a country that might be able to lift them before Christmas given that Canada has no naval or dedicated air assets in the area and is depending on six small civvy ferries.
Both Aus and Can are ,000s of km away and the local communities in both countries can't understand why they're not all home yet 
Johnny Howard made a call to his best buddy "Steve" Harper about help getting the Aussies back. Interesting that 50,000 Canadians in Leb is per capita about the same as 25,000 Aussies. In any case, Howard should have called a country that might be able to lift them before Christmas given that Canada has no naval or dedicated air assets in the area and is depending on six small civvy ferries.
Both Aus and Can are ,000s of km away and the local communities in both countries can't understand why they're not all home yet
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What struck me was the poverty. The dirty cities, ****ty cars, the scruffy looking military all over the place, the whores, the deserted building sites, it just was a million miles from the "Jewel of the Middle East" that I had expected. I will say that the food there was excellent.
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Actually, I thought it was jolly decent of the Israelis granting safe passage, on request, to the World's senior Navy. It was even more gracious granting it in a Sovereign nations waters that were actually bugger all to do with them. God bless PJHQ and Downing Street.
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Originally Posted by GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU
Actually, I thought it was jolly decent of the Israelis granting safe passage, on request, to the World's senior Navy. It was even more gracious granting it in a Sovereign nations waters that were actually bugger all to do with them. God bless PJHQ and Downing Street.
Rumour (repeat, rumour) has it that the CO (Cap'n Bob C) of the Illustrious is not a happy chappy. Final commission at sea for him, reported as saying that he wanted to "go out active" - I do believe he may have been hanging out for live ops. Also he seems to be unhappy with the Gloucester, as they were there first and got on with the job whilst the behemoth CVS came on for the second half. Imposed a comms-silent procedure on the Gloucester even though it was all over the papers, and then lifted the silent emcon for Senior Rates and above only! The RN Community site is interesting for the comments from wives and partners, especially for the over-restrictive security policy in force, considering that Sky, BBC, CNN etc made it all fairly obvious what was happening. All did a good job, don't get me wrong, but we still don't get it quite right when it comes to people left at home having to second-guess situations and events from media reporting which has been known to get it wrong or to put a different slant on things.
An no, the NPFS are not the answer - a worse than useless branch which is being allowed, thankfully, to wither and die. Did the RAF rear-echelon wives and mothers battalion get a better deal than the RN?
