Why Nobody Likes RAF Police
Originally Posted by ZH875
Reply Deleted, because I can't be bothered to trade childish insults with a scuffer.
I'm acheing here!
That post really belies your intellect! (Or does it?)
While I continue to trade (mainly intelligent) replies with your contemporaries, stay safe in the knowledge that you weren't clever enough.
Good on yer!
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Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
Oh yeah you did. Well done that man for threading together enough keys to make that legible!
That's just the type of posting that proves my point!
Respect to all proper aircrew! (NOT proper aircrew: (not enough intelligence) 16 Blades, always whingeing, wgalways a dummy, maple (not even bright enough to be a copper!)
Respect to Pontius for making valid points.
Mind how you go.....
Laar
Is it like 'NOT proper coppers'?
I can do your job, can you do mine?
Originally Posted by wg13_dummy
Define 'NOT proper aircrew'?
Is it like 'NOT proper coppers'?
I can do your job, can you do mine?
Is it like 'NOT proper coppers'?
I can do your job, can you do mine?
(We can all generalise, and no, you couldn't do my job, I guarantee it.)
Seriously, this thread was all about why NOBODY likes RAF Police.
The only negative replies have been from no more than 10 people.
Draw your own conclusions, but mine is that this thread has been populated by 7 or 8 very BITTER little people. Well done those people. You've done so well for yourselves, and at the end of the day....
Your opinion does not matter. I still get paid.
Mind how you go.
Laar.
Not bitter.. very grown up.
Would I trust a RAF policeman after 24 years in the RAF? .. Nope
Did i meet a RAF policeman i trusted? .. yep
By way of trying to expalin the above, I as a SNCO met a fellow SNCO who happened to be a policeman who was a bloody good bloke, and was a Flt Sgt. He arrived at the home of the leaping heap, and boy did he try, and i will back him up on that, but however hard he tried as he said......
"Not gonna make any difference, I went through the same, you cant give someone acting rank at 17 and expect his peers, who got more qualifications, to bow down"
I am not suggesting for one minute that RAF Policeman should earn as much as the man who did better at school, but having known this guy - cut them some slack, they know they got problems. Maybe the trade should die.
As he said we were fine doing what we did for years and that was building checks and barrier up.. barrier down. Then some idiot obviously reviewed the trade and said ok they can check car tax and we will buy a speeding camera for each camp.
Hand a 17 year old a speeding camera...... and you know what cars he will aim for, he is after all 17!!
No doubt I will now be told he has to be 18 to handle said camera.
In the end i do feel sorry for the RAFP, and I am being serious. Once the days had gone of the Trade Assistant General (They all moved on to become Harrier Pilots) the Police were shunted into Guardrooms, they hated it, wanted nothing to do with it, and one trade review later were given things such as speed cameras to make them a proper trade. Once you did that, but did nothing about the 17 year old being boss the rest of the RAF gave up IMHO.
Oh and the other fecking thing they did which was unforgivable was to say they could not do guard. Certainly on the camps I was on for 24 years they refused point blank. Like the Firemen you win no freinds for that policy. There are a lot of other sections that work shift as well. I am not interested in manning or how good you look in your sunglasses, you lot knew what you were doing and milked it.
As I said... not bitter.. far from it. It was the kind of trade you in the main ignored - because thats all they were worth. Trouble is the times you did have contact with them, they wanted to play at being Inspector Morse. As i said to the zit kid who told me to raise the barrier one mornig at deadloss- "i will raise it - when i am satisfied who is coming in" Yup he did buy it - for the morning rush, in the hour they did dain to appear, I was not allowed to touch the barrier for the rest of the week. I got to check the IDs instead.. doh!! Funnily enough it took OC Police to tell me this turn of events.
Result... and yes i did laugh every moring as he tried to put the barrier down every morning between cars during rush hour.
The SWO even congratulated me on my skill!
I had forgotten how evil i was in my youth
JimNich and KeithL will reply if I am wrong :0
Rant over
Would I trust a RAF policeman after 24 years in the RAF? .. Nope
Did i meet a RAF policeman i trusted? .. yep
By way of trying to expalin the above, I as a SNCO met a fellow SNCO who happened to be a policeman who was a bloody good bloke, and was a Flt Sgt. He arrived at the home of the leaping heap, and boy did he try, and i will back him up on that, but however hard he tried as he said......
"Not gonna make any difference, I went through the same, you cant give someone acting rank at 17 and expect his peers, who got more qualifications, to bow down"
I am not suggesting for one minute that RAF Policeman should earn as much as the man who did better at school, but having known this guy - cut them some slack, they know they got problems. Maybe the trade should die.
As he said we were fine doing what we did for years and that was building checks and barrier up.. barrier down. Then some idiot obviously reviewed the trade and said ok they can check car tax and we will buy a speeding camera for each camp.
Hand a 17 year old a speeding camera...... and you know what cars he will aim for, he is after all 17!!
No doubt I will now be told he has to be 18 to handle said camera.
In the end i do feel sorry for the RAFP, and I am being serious. Once the days had gone of the Trade Assistant General (They all moved on to become Harrier Pilots) the Police were shunted into Guardrooms, they hated it, wanted nothing to do with it, and one trade review later were given things such as speed cameras to make them a proper trade. Once you did that, but did nothing about the 17 year old being boss the rest of the RAF gave up IMHO.
Oh and the other fecking thing they did which was unforgivable was to say they could not do guard. Certainly on the camps I was on for 24 years they refused point blank. Like the Firemen you win no freinds for that policy. There are a lot of other sections that work shift as well. I am not interested in manning or how good you look in your sunglasses, you lot knew what you were doing and milked it.
As I said... not bitter.. far from it. It was the kind of trade you in the main ignored - because thats all they were worth. Trouble is the times you did have contact with them, they wanted to play at being Inspector Morse. As i said to the zit kid who told me to raise the barrier one mornig at deadloss- "i will raise it - when i am satisfied who is coming in" Yup he did buy it - for the morning rush, in the hour they did dain to appear, I was not allowed to touch the barrier for the rest of the week. I got to check the IDs instead.. doh!! Funnily enough it took OC Police to tell me this turn of events.
Result... and yes i did laugh every moring as he tried to put the barrier down every morning between cars during rush hour.
The SWO even congratulated me on my skill!
I had forgotten how evil i was in my youth
JimNich and KeithL will reply if I am wrong :0
Rant over
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Years ago at a base in Germany, the Commanding Officer himself said that he wanted something done about speeding motorists going along 'his roads' ... So plods were sent out for days and weeks, stopped 'speeding motorists' and advised them of their short comings, but same names were soon identified as repeat offenders, nobody took any notice of the advice / warnings given.. CO got mad and ordered something else be done to stop the offenders. Therefore 'speed measuring machines' were borrowed from the Army RMP for a couple of weeks.. Evidence was thus obtained against offenders, charges made, fines handed down at subordinate commanders hearings, and the commissioned 'lot' were awarded 'monetary penal deductions'...
Road safety improved... The Commanding Officer was dead chuffed.... Plods had done their job as directed, but took a lot of flak from all and sundry..
No win situation..
If the airforce hired people who were capable of self disipline there would be no problems.
Road safety improved... The Commanding Officer was dead chuffed.... Plods had done their job as directed, but took a lot of flak from all and sundry..
No win situation..
If the airforce hired people who were capable of self disipline there would be no problems.
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Originally Posted by Shjustme
Years ago at a base in Germany, the Commanding Officer himself said that he wanted something done about speeding motorists going along 'his roads' ... So plods were sent out for days and weeks, stopped 'speeding motorists' and advised them of their short comings, but same names were soon identified as repeat offenders, nobody took any notice of the advice / warnings given.. CO got mad and ordered something else be done to stop the offenders. Therefore 'speed measuring machines' were borrowed from the Army RMP for a couple of weeks.. Evidence was thus obtained against offenders, charges made, fines handed down at subordinate commanders hearings, and the commissioned 'lot' were awarded 'monetary penal deductions'...
Road safety improved... The Commanding Officer was dead chuffed.... Plods had done their job as directed, but took a lot of flak from all and sundry..
No win situation..
If the airforce hired people who were capable of self disipline there would be no problems.
Road safety improved... The Commanding Officer was dead chuffed.... Plods had done their job as directed, but took a lot of flak from all and sundry..
No win situation..
If the airforce hired people who were capable of self disipline there would be no problems.
We have the same problem in Portsmouth Dockyard at the moment with an overzealous Mod Plodder who keeps trying to impound staff cars. I foresee a short, unspectacular career......
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Hey Inspector Morse
"Seriously, this thread was all about why NOBODY likes RAF Police.
The only negative replies have been from no more than 10 people."
I'm no rocket scientist but I counted way more than 10 on the first two pages you silly little man
"Your opinion does not matter. I still get paid." .................Maybe but not that much eh
Also like to add that if you have ever had a full and informed brief from the AWC I will not only slam my bits in the car door, I will also cut them off with a desert spoon, feed them to next doors cat and video the whole event to post on here
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
"Seriously, this thread was all about why NOBODY likes RAF Police.
The only negative replies have been from no more than 10 people."
I'm no rocket scientist but I counted way more than 10 on the first two pages you silly little man
"Your opinion does not matter. I still get paid." .................Maybe but not that much eh
Also like to add that if you have ever had a full and informed brief from the AWC I will not only slam my bits in the car door, I will also cut them off with a desert spoon, feed them to next doors cat and video the whole event to post on here
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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J Bloke,
Started the TAC course yesterday so no Basrah for me this side of Xmas.
Off to the other place come October though which I am really looking forward to as an informed "sauce" on here states there is no air threat so flying should be nice and safe
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Please please please do Smoke and Fumes for a certain personal admin nightmare tomorrow!!
Started the TAC course yesterday so no Basrah for me this side of Xmas.
Off to the other place come October though which I am really looking forward to as an informed "sauce" on here states there is no air threat so flying should be nice and safe
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Please please please do Smoke and Fumes for a certain personal admin nightmare tomorrow!!
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I'm with Comp on this one, bloody scuffers!!
Heard about the scuffer on a Scottish camp who set off with his new gun. First person he pulls is one of the Gnd Radio SNCOs.
Scuffer: "You know how fast you were going?"
SNCO: " No do you?"
Scuffer: "Well Sarge my new radar gun here tells me you were doing 15mph above the airfield limit"
SNCO:"New Radar gun eh? Had that checked out for interference on Navaids around the airfield Cpl?
Scuffer:"No Sarge just got it"
SNCO:"Good hand it over then I'll get it done for you"
Scuffer:" Oh thanks"
SNCO then put gun in bottom drawer for a few weeks until OC Plod begged for it back!!!
Heard about the scuffer on a Scottish camp who set off with his new gun. First person he pulls is one of the Gnd Radio SNCOs.
Scuffer: "You know how fast you were going?"
SNCO: " No do you?"
Scuffer: "Well Sarge my new radar gun here tells me you were doing 15mph above the airfield limit"
SNCO:"New Radar gun eh? Had that checked out for interference on Navaids around the airfield Cpl?
Scuffer:"No Sarge just got it"
SNCO:"Good hand it over then I'll get it done for you"
Scuffer:" Oh thanks"
SNCO then put gun in bottom drawer for a few weeks until OC Plod begged for it back!!!
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Why I personally do not like the RAFP !! ( even after 6 years a civvy)
At ISK many moons ago a colleague and myself were making our way back to the block after a few pints in the Naafi, the adjoining block were having a party and just as we passed said block we heard a bit of an increase in volume and went back to have a look. A female had jumped out of one of the upper block windows and was in obvious pain (the amount of alcohol she was obviously swimming in wasnt helping much) , the lads present were paraletic so I went for the Medics while my mate did what he could first aid wise. Called the Medics and they turned up and sorted out the casualty (one leg broken, one leg fractured), Scuffers turned up and chatted for a bit with the Medics and took our names as I had called the Ambulance.
Went back to the block and went to bed, called out two hours or so later and dragged down to the Cop Shop for an Interview. Turns out the girl was only 17 and her father was aircrew of the officer fraternity. The coppers were out for someone to blame. Now my mate and myself had had a few pints and were merry but still fairly compus mentus so we answered all their questions but were frequently told we knew more than we were letting on. Went to work the next day and informed the Boss what had happened, mid afternoon called down again and re- interviewed.
Two days later we were both told that we were to be charged with False Entry / Official document !!, why ??, because there were slight differences to our interviews !! My (Aircrew) boss went nuts and pointed out that was not surprising as we had been drinking the night of the incident we should not have been interviewed at that time..
Next thing we heard was that my boss had contacted the girls father, they both went down to the Police flight and asked why they were trying to get us charged when we were the ones that helped while the lad who had got her drunk just stood and watched. It was suggested that maybe they would be better off questioning the lads who supplied her the alcohol as that was an actual offence. I was told that the actual conversation was one way and frightening to behold by a GD who considered himself lucky to be present at the time.
Charges were dropped shortly after and myself and my oppo got a thank you from grateful father, a reassurance the witch hunt did not come from him and an overseas jolly the next time his crew went on det.
Top Bloke ..
The copper who went all out to get us done later served time for robbery in civvy street !!, (anyone at ISK in the late Eighties may remember him as he was a total throbber)
His Last name was the organ in your chest that beats ...
At ISK many moons ago a colleague and myself were making our way back to the block after a few pints in the Naafi, the adjoining block were having a party and just as we passed said block we heard a bit of an increase in volume and went back to have a look. A female had jumped out of one of the upper block windows and was in obvious pain (the amount of alcohol she was obviously swimming in wasnt helping much) , the lads present were paraletic so I went for the Medics while my mate did what he could first aid wise. Called the Medics and they turned up and sorted out the casualty (one leg broken, one leg fractured), Scuffers turned up and chatted for a bit with the Medics and took our names as I had called the Ambulance.
Went back to the block and went to bed, called out two hours or so later and dragged down to the Cop Shop for an Interview. Turns out the girl was only 17 and her father was aircrew of the officer fraternity. The coppers were out for someone to blame. Now my mate and myself had had a few pints and were merry but still fairly compus mentus so we answered all their questions but were frequently told we knew more than we were letting on. Went to work the next day and informed the Boss what had happened, mid afternoon called down again and re- interviewed.
Two days later we were both told that we were to be charged with False Entry / Official document !!, why ??, because there were slight differences to our interviews !! My (Aircrew) boss went nuts and pointed out that was not surprising as we had been drinking the night of the incident we should not have been interviewed at that time..
Next thing we heard was that my boss had contacted the girls father, they both went down to the Police flight and asked why they were trying to get us charged when we were the ones that helped while the lad who had got her drunk just stood and watched. It was suggested that maybe they would be better off questioning the lads who supplied her the alcohol as that was an actual offence. I was told that the actual conversation was one way and frightening to behold by a GD who considered himself lucky to be present at the time.
Charges were dropped shortly after and myself and my oppo got a thank you from grateful father, a reassurance the witch hunt did not come from him and an overseas jolly the next time his crew went on det.
Top Bloke ..
The copper who went all out to get us done later served time for robbery in civvy street !!, (anyone at ISK in the late Eighties may remember him as he was a total throbber)
His Last name was the organ in your chest that beats ...
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Hi there ABIW...
Or is it now going to be Always Broken Near Keevil??? Eh? Eh?
Anyway...I had heard that same Oxygen Burglar state that the Rocky place was safer than driving down the main drag at an unsafe speed towards the terrifying barrier!!!
Anyway, your O2 thief will be sorted !!
More LAter;
'J' Bloke!!
Or is it now going to be Always Broken Near Keevil??? Eh? Eh?
Anyway...I had heard that same Oxygen Burglar state that the Rocky place was safer than driving down the main drag at an unsafe speed towards the terrifying barrier!!!
Anyway, your O2 thief will be sorted !!
More LAter;
'J' Bloke!!
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Years ago I had a party in my room at an unnamed VIP Station in West London.
I invited several girlies along, a smattering of blokes (not enough to cramp my style
) and provided the music and booze.
As I knew it would be a late (and noisy) one, I did what I thought was the decent thing and invited the (Acting) Cpl Scuffer who lived at the end of the corridor.
He thoroughly enjoyed himself, chatting up the girls I had invited, drinking the booze I had provided and choosing music to put on my stereo.
A suitably drunk night was had by all, with a few of us even getting lucky with our female friends.
(I think you know where this is going now!)
Early next morning I was knocked up and dragged down the Scuffer Station. Proceeded to get a roasting for girls in the block, excessive consumption of alcohol, loud noise etc etc
When it was pointed out that A/Cpl X was actually AT the party the snivelling two faced snake insisted he had only gone along in a 'professional capacity' to 'gather evidence' as he 'suspected some girls would stay the night in male accomodation'.
The fact he was one of the few who didn't pull obviously had nothing to do with this subsequent police harrassment did it?
Never gave him the steam off my sh1t again, and have never seen him again.
His last name is one of those green things in the country that you walk up. And then walk down again.
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I invited several girlies along, a smattering of blokes (not enough to cramp my style
) and provided the music and booze. As I knew it would be a late (and noisy) one, I did what I thought was the decent thing and invited the (Acting) Cpl Scuffer who lived at the end of the corridor.
He thoroughly enjoyed himself, chatting up the girls I had invited, drinking the booze I had provided and choosing music to put on my stereo.
A suitably drunk night was had by all, with a few of us even getting lucky with our female friends.
(I think you know where this is going now!)
Early next morning I was knocked up and dragged down the Scuffer Station. Proceeded to get a roasting for girls in the block, excessive consumption of alcohol, loud noise etc etc
When it was pointed out that A/Cpl X was actually AT the party the snivelling two faced snake insisted he had only gone along in a 'professional capacity' to 'gather evidence' as he 'suspected some girls would stay the night in male accomodation'.
The fact he was one of the few who didn't pull obviously had nothing to do with this subsequent police harrassment did it?
Never gave him the steam off my sh1t again, and have never seen him again.
His last name is one of those green things in the country that you walk up. And then walk down again.
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His last name is one of those green things in the country that you walk up. And then walk down again.
Chopper
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Ah, THAT policeman? If that's the one I know then this never happened. (As befits the stature of this thread, never let truth get in the way of a good lie!)
This thread is REALLY tired now. Same old whinges from the same sad tired bitter cases. Let it die a slow death please, it embarrasses you all.
And Always Whigeing in Wilts... yes, there were a few more that 10 posters in the first couple of pages. But hey, everyone likes a dig at plod, and we all have a story, so crack on. However for the last 10, 11, 18 pages or whatever, it's the same old faces.
For gods' sake guys, grow up. And by the way Wilts Whinger... 30 grand is enough for me ta. It's not that much granted, but comfortable ta.
And while I'm at it, do the station plod really do such a bad job with the gun? (I know that clearly it's a subject close to your own hearts!)
It at least keeps the mindless element from rocketing around camp. (Which they do, there's always one or two).
The guys aren't out to end your careers, just make the station a safer place. Can't knock them for that surely. Bear in mind they don't choose to do it, the order comes from Harry Staish.
So the bottom line is (Just for you Comp Charlie) if you don't like speed enforcement on your camp, speak to Harry about it.
Mind how you go.
Laar.
Chopper
CC[/quote]
Ah, THAT policeman? If that's the one I know then this never happened. (As befits the stature of this thread, never let truth get in the way of a good lie!)
This thread is REALLY tired now. Same old whinges from the same sad tired bitter cases. Let it die a slow death please, it embarrasses you all.
And Always Whigeing in Wilts... yes, there were a few more that 10 posters in the first couple of pages. But hey, everyone likes a dig at plod, and we all have a story, so crack on. However for the last 10, 11, 18 pages or whatever, it's the same old faces.
For gods' sake guys, grow up. And by the way Wilts Whinger... 30 grand is enough for me ta. It's not that much granted, but comfortable ta.
And while I'm at it, do the station plod really do such a bad job with the gun? (I know that clearly it's a subject close to your own hearts!)
It at least keeps the mindless element from rocketing around camp. (Which they do, there's always one or two).
The guys aren't out to end your careers, just make the station a safer place. Can't knock them for that surely. Bear in mind they don't choose to do it, the order comes from Harry Staish.
So the bottom line is (Just for you Comp Charlie) if you don't like speed enforcement on your camp, speak to Harry about it.
Mind how you go.
Laar.
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How about a little humour Laar ??
Whats the Difference between an RAFP wagon and a pair of Boxer Shorts ??
You can only get one C0ck in a pair of Boxer shorts.
And in my case the RAFP wrent very good at "making the camp a safer place" as they failed to prevent the incident and then arrived after two slightly sozzled SAC's and the medics had sorted it .. I mean how slow do you have to be to arrive after the Medics ?? .. if they went any slower they would be going backwards.
And in my case I felt (as did my boss) that the RAFP were "out to wreck my career" .. why else interview use aginst the rules and try to get us charged on the grounds of that. Maybe needed to boost the stats a bit I think.
There can be tossers in any trade but the RAFP have the power that when it is abused has a lasting effect.
I am going to bug out now as I dont think I could top that joke.
Ta Ta.
Whats the Difference between an RAFP wagon and a pair of Boxer Shorts ??
You can only get one C0ck in a pair of Boxer shorts.
And in my case the RAFP wrent very good at "making the camp a safer place" as they failed to prevent the incident and then arrived after two slightly sozzled SAC's and the medics had sorted it .. I mean how slow do you have to be to arrive after the Medics ?? .. if they went any slower they would be going backwards.
And in my case I felt (as did my boss) that the RAFP were "out to wreck my career" .. why else interview use aginst the rules and try to get us charged on the grounds of that. Maybe needed to boost the stats a bit I think.
There can be tossers in any trade but the RAFP have the power that when it is abused has a lasting effect.
I am going to bug out now as I dont think I could top that joke.
Ta Ta.
Originally Posted by Jopsy
And in my case the RAFP wrent very good at "making the camp a safer place" as they failed to prevent the incident and then arrived after two slightly sozzled SAC's and the medics had sorted it .. I mean how slow do you have to be to arrive after the Medics ?? .. if they went any slower they would be going backwards.
And in my case I felt (as did my boss) that the RAFP were "out to wreck my career" .. why else interview use aginst the rules and try to get us charged on the grounds of that. Maybe needed to boost the stats a bit I think.
Ta Ta.
What disturbs me is the incident you mention. Can you not be more specific about the said incident? If not then fair enough, but I can hardly reply to that with any credence can I?
Interview against the rules? Do you not know that you have rights? (And every copper has to show you a paper copy every time you are interviewed? It's the law. Ask next time you're in the clink, although you should have been informed of your rights anyway!)
And contary to belief, there are no such thing as stats. We don't get extra pay / promotion / up the pecking order etc from doing people for no good reason. There are stats yes. But only on crime figures on each station so we can best see how to target resources.
I was specifically talking about the dreaded (and much vaulted) radar gun. I was just trying to defend the poor young guys who, under Harrys' orders have to go out and cop all the **** for Harrys' own policies.
As I said guys. It's easy to blast the 18 year old LAC/A/Cpl for being a **** or whatever, but try asking Gp Capt Harry why he sends those same guys out. I somehow doubt that you would.
Mind how you go,
Laar.