Future Carrier (Including Costs)
Suspicion breeds confidence
ruduarte forgets that the RN always has three CVS plus Ocean available at varying degrees of readiness. Arg has none with none ordered or planned.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Not_a_boffin,
That depends on the current status of the Varyag.
India also has a 40K ton class STOBAR carrier under construction in the Cochin shipyard, (designed by Fincantieri and due for delivery in 2012), planned to operate Mig-29Ks. I am sure they would be happy to build a couple more to amortise costs....
That depends on the current status of the Varyag.
India also has a 40K ton class STOBAR carrier under construction in the Cochin shipyard, (designed by Fincantieri and due for delivery in 2012), planned to operate Mig-29Ks. I am sure they would be happy to build a couple more to amortise costs....
Fair points.
Varyag, but whether PLAN would wish to part with the asset without replacement is moot.
The Indian ADS has been in gestation for over 15 years - its always possible that they could build others, but even mods for AN use would knock it back a few years.
Varyag, but whether PLAN would wish to part with the asset without replacement is moot.
The Indian ADS has been in gestation for over 15 years - its always possible that they could build others, but even mods for AN use would knock it back a few years.
Suspicion breeds confidence
Varyag is an engineless hulk that was left open to the atmosphere for a decade. She is little more than an engineering technology demonstrator for the Chinese. Lets face in a hot war, the Chinese navy would become target practice for US SSNs.
Tend to agree with you NEye, but they are certainly doing something with the ship at the minute. As you say though, one suspects in a warfighting situation a salvo of ADCAP would be the end result.
http://www.hms-vengeance.co.uk/farewell.htm
For anyone interested, this is what happened to the last South American Carrier to go out of service, ex HMS Vengeance, ex Minas Gerais of the Brazilian navy. There was a half-@rsed attempt to save her (the last RN carrier afloat to have served in WW2 - albeit briefly), but as you can see it came to naught. Hope the equivalent doesn't happen to XH558.
http://www.hms-vengeance.co.uk/farewell.htm
For anyone interested, this is what happened to the last South American Carrier to go out of service, ex HMS Vengeance, ex Minas Gerais of the Brazilian navy. There was a half-@rsed attempt to save her (the last RN carrier afloat to have served in WW2 - albeit briefly), but as you can see it came to naught. Hope the equivalent doesn't happen to XH558.
Suspicion breeds confidence
I think one Astute with a full loadout of Spearfish would sink the lot very quickly. There are SSNs and there are targets and Spearfish can seriously ruin your day. On the other side of the coin, I would have no problem in imagining that a war equipped CVF carrier battle group could strike the islands and the mainland at the same time and still leave a credible CAP to protect the fleet. Type 45 would turn the low level ops of 1982 into one way trips. The Argentines know it and this is why they are sabre rattling again while we are relatively weak.
Some additional reading here.
Some additional reading here.
Last edited by Navaleye; 15th Aug 2006 at 19:59.
Suspicion breeds confidence
The SuE is being phased out of service with the French Navy because it is obsolete. That capability is being replaced and improved upon by the Rafale. Argentina is unlikely to buy the Rafale.
The US have sunk Iwo Jima class ships with a single MK 48 ADCAP on SINKEX.
The US have sunk Iwo Jima class ships with a single MK 48 ADCAP on SINKEX.
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Originally Posted by rduarte
It is not the 01 but the 07,you need some good glasses.
And you, sir, need to get a clue. Tactical aircraft callsigns, in this case, the ficticious Argie 01, have very little to do with aircraft side numbers, in this case 07. Otherwise, it would be much easier to determine the order of battle of one's opponent.
But thanks for playing.............
