RAF JPA Rollout
I don't often feel the need to post, but this JPA system is really getting me down at the moment.
At first sight, one might suspect that the post by O_T_T_B is made-up, but having received this in my email today (complete with names and email details for the whole of JPAC) I would suggest otherwise.
Astonishing - or perhaps not.
Friedlander
At first sight, one might suspect that the post by O_T_T_B is made-up, but having received this in my email today (complete with names and email details for the whole of JPAC) I would suggest otherwise.
Astonishing - or perhaps not.
Friedlander
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I received this in my e-mail today complete with names etc. The best part is missing here and that is the 'supervisor' asking all of the recipients to delete this mail immediately!!
Oops!
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JPA Excelent
I can only sing the praises of JPA. Left July 2nd (By PVR after 22 years). Gratuity paid July 13th. Pension pain July 3rd!. Commendatins all round. A system that works for me. SORRY!
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Winc-control
You'll be the one they send the survey to then...
So exactly how did you PVR? On JPA? Oh no, that bit's not working yet.
Tried to indicate personal posting, sorry assignment preferences today, but it wouldn't recognise any inputs so I gave up.
I think I applied for CEA today, but I'm not absolutely sure ... again!
How much leave do I have left this year?
Started with 30, plus 15 carried over makes 45. I have taken 7 (allegedly), so I have 33 left. Even my maths isn't that bad.
As for previous years, seems I've always taken everything I'm entitled to - someone somewhere has been helpful, 'cause I'm pretty bl00dy sure I haven't managed to take anything like my full entitlement for at least the last 5 years.
STH
You'll be the one they send the survey to then...
So exactly how did you PVR? On JPA? Oh no, that bit's not working yet.
Tried to indicate personal posting, sorry assignment preferences today, but it wouldn't recognise any inputs so I gave up.
I think I applied for CEA today, but I'm not absolutely sure ... again!
How much leave do I have left this year?
Started with 30, plus 15 carried over makes 45. I have taken 7 (allegedly), so I have 33 left. Even my maths isn't that bad.
As for previous years, seems I've always taken everything I'm entitled to - someone somewhere has been helpful, 'cause I'm pretty bl00dy sure I haven't managed to take anything like my full entitlement for at least the last 5 years.
STH
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Having just a little problem with being paid correctly?
Please visit...
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcessalaries/
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcessalaries/
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Everything was going fine with my JPA until Julys pay. I have lived out in my own house for over a year but JPA decided to charge me food and accom back dated for over a year. This resulted me being down in pay by about 250 quid and a Public Debt of over 600.
When I pointed out the mistake to PSF, they rectified the shortfall but I had to wait til this months pay to recoupe the 250. This month i received the shortfall but then they over paid me by 900 quid
. I will now have to pay that back over the next 3 months.
Apart from that, I have had no problems.
When I pointed out the mistake to PSF, they rectified the shortfall but I had to wait til this months pay to recoupe the 250. This month i received the shortfall but then they over paid me by 900 quid
. I will now have to pay that back over the next 3 months. Apart from that, I have had no problems.
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What worries me is the constant stream of weird and unattributable entries on my online pay slip such as "MTD Advance Of Pay" (I'm not a driver BTW
) which although has a value of 0.00 shouldn't be appearing at all!
Also seems a little strange that over the past few months the paper copies have been arriving a little later each month....
The online expenses input pages have now also changed as you have to tick the little box stating "I have read and understood the conditions.....etc"
It is already an offence to submit a fraudulent claim so why bother with an irrelevant tick box? Why are they wasting the software code writers' time in adding trivial items when the overall functionality is so poor? Have they ever tried inputting something sensible into a posting (sorry, assignment) choice?
Having just returned from a det which attracted LOA and LSA, it looked as if I had been underpaid and overtaxed; the JPAC EC muppet had no idea what I was talking about, couldn't rtell which was taxed and which wasn't, and insisted that this was a Unit HR matter. Never mind, I looked it up in JSP 752.....
SBG
) which although has a value of 0.00 shouldn't be appearing at all!Also seems a little strange that over the past few months the paper copies have been arriving a little later each month....
The online expenses input pages have now also changed as you have to tick the little box stating "I have read and understood the conditions.....etc"
It is already an offence to submit a fraudulent claim so why bother with an irrelevant tick box? Why are they wasting the software code writers' time in adding trivial items when the overall functionality is so poor? Have they ever tried inputting something sensible into a posting (sorry, assignment) choice?Having just returned from a det which attracted LOA and LSA, it looked as if I had been underpaid and overtaxed; the JPAC EC muppet had no idea what I was talking about, couldn't rtell which was taxed and which wasn't, and insisted that this was a Unit HR matter. Never mind, I looked it up in JSP 752.....
SBG
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Since my pay statement arrives a month or so after I've been paid it's difficult to track my pay. But I did just find out that my LOA has been paid wrong and I've been overcharged quartering charges since the introduction of JPA. Also, some of my dependents no longer exist, according to JPA, so reduced Disturbance Allowance. I'm sure it will all get sorted out in short order, with the minumum fuss or input from me....
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JPA was written by EDS
Error Dependant System how else does EDS make money?
Cheap quote cheap to install ...... mega bucks to run maga bucks to upgrade or correct the in-built errors.
No software works first time as the profit margin is too small.
Error Dependant System how else does EDS make money?
Cheap quote cheap to install ...... mega bucks to run maga bucks to upgrade or correct the in-built errors.
No software works first time as the profit margin is too small.
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Just to add to the tale of woe - since rejoining the RAF as a PTRS aviator in January I haven't been paid at all. Nothing, zip, nada, zilch.
I receive 2 x blank pay statements each month, although they appear to be arriving later and later and now appear approx 5 weeks after the pay date.
The worst aspect is that nobody is prepared to accept responsibility, I could get cross but with whom is the question. Even OC Admin at my unit seems no have no recourse but to ring the helpline whose advice is always - Contact your Unit HR staff. Yes they really did say that to OC Admin!
I receive 2 x blank pay statements each month, although they appear to be arriving later and later and now appear approx 5 weeks after the pay date.
The worst aspect is that nobody is prepared to accept responsibility, I could get cross but with whom is the question. Even OC Admin at my unit seems no have no recourse but to ring the helpline whose advice is always - Contact your Unit HR staff. Yes they really did say that to OC Admin!
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There should always be something your HR staff can do, it just depends how much paperwork they are prepared to do on your behalf. I didn't get SFP for 4 months. Each time I contacted JPA they said, "We'll get it sorted for next months pay run" They never did I even got the HR staff to call for me, but they could only speak to the same people I could.
In the end I put it into writing to Harry Staish, and within 24 hours I had a BACS payment in my bank. Granted, it took JPA another month to catch up, but it was easier for the station to recover the money than me trying to do it myself. I am a number, not a name.
If you shout loudly enough at the right people, it's amazing what can happen
, the problem is getting hold of "the right people" isn't it?
(Oh, petition signed btw, for all the good it'll do)
I even got the HR staff to call for me, but they could only speak to the same people I could.In the end I put it into writing to Harry Staish, and within 24 hours I had a BACS payment in my bank. Granted, it took JPA another month to catch up, but it was easier for the station to recover the money than me trying to do it myself. I am a number, not a name.
If you shout loudly enough at the right people, it's amazing what can happen
, the problem is getting hold of "the right people" isn't it?(Oh, petition signed btw, for all the good it'll do
)
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Does anyone know the name of current CE AFPAA and where he is based? I have no choice but to write to him after 4 months of attempting to get a P14 (statement of NICs paid) for the period up to the time I PVRd last year. Have written to JPA, payroll manager, AFPAA Innsworth and letters sent direct from Inland Revenue to the Payroll Manager @ Gosport, I have not had the courtesy of any response. Grateful for any help.
Perveresly, I was lauding the service I received from JPA just after I left!! Should have kept my mouth shut.
Ed
Perveresly, I was lauding the service I received from JPA just after I left!! Should have kept my mouth shut.
Ed
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AFPAA now called SPVA:
People, Pay and Pensions Agency
The People, Pay and Pensions Agency provides payroll, pensions, expenses management and personnel information services for civil service staff in the Ministry of Defence, and other government customers on repayment.
Chief Executive: David Ball
Responsible Minister: Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State (Minister for Veterans)
Address: J Block Foxhill, Combe Down, Bath BA1 5AB
Website: PPPA website
Telephone: 0800 345 7772
Fax: 01225 828728
Email: [email protected] or [email protected] or [email protected]
HPT
People, Pay and Pensions Agency
The People, Pay and Pensions Agency provides payroll, pensions, expenses management and personnel information services for civil service staff in the Ministry of Defence, and other government customers on repayment.
Chief Executive: David Ball
Responsible Minister: Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State (Minister for Veterans)
Address: J Block Foxhill, Combe Down, Bath BA1 5AB
Website: PPPA website
Telephone: 0800 345 7772
Fax: 01225 828728
Email: [email protected] or [email protected] or [email protected]
HPT
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Flying Pay Increments - Watch Out On Postings
Everyone,
Please be aware that with JPA, if you are posted to a post that does not have a Specialist Pay Flying Annotation/Tag, you will be placed on Reserve Band of Flying Pay.
Any time spent on Reserve Band of Flying Pay does not count as time served towards your next increment of flying pay.
I was on what I thought was a Flying Related Posting that was not annotated as such on my JPA job PUC/PIC and now my next increment is a months later than it would have been if we had not brought in JPA. I am well out of pocket financially for accepting a ground job!!!!!
So when you get "offered" any posting by ACOS Manning, think carefully and don't forget to check whether there is a SP Flying Pay Tab.
WTN
Please be aware that with JPA, if you are posted to a post that does not have a Specialist Pay Flying Annotation/Tag, you will be placed on Reserve Band of Flying Pay.
Any time spent on Reserve Band of Flying Pay does not count as time served towards your next increment of flying pay.
I was on what I thought was a Flying Related Posting that was not annotated as such on my JPA job PUC/PIC and now my next increment is a months later than it would have been if we had not brought in JPA. I am well out of pocket financially for accepting a ground job!!!!!
So when you get "offered" any posting by ACOS Manning, think carefully and don't forget to check whether there is a SP Flying Pay Tab.
WTN
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And another thing...
Anyone with more than 3 children might want to check that all their kids are still on record since JPA. A friend of mine lost some of his kids in the change, apparently....
Good luck, Bladdered
I have just told "HR" (was PSF) that I am being over-paid. I wonder how long it will take them to start taking the money back and whether I will get a new P60 for the last tax year. Or will I have to approximate my taxable pay for last year to get my overpayment in tax back ... ?
McD
McD