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Guys,
Been thinking about this for a while. Every body talks about the pot being empty i`ve got a few radical ideas here we go then.
1. Think about it. It`s that time of the year when your station has its annual visit by an important person. You know that day of the year were you wear a different uniform Instead of looking like an RAC man you look like a chauffer (sorry spelling). Instead of painting grass patching things up and glossing stuff over and all the other stuff . Why not instead.
Send high ranking gold braided visitor a nice photo album cum year book instead . Imagine it we could save a fortune. Nice photographic scenes in a gucci album. He could then cut them out and use his fave pictures for post cards.
2. Think about it. Your station is skint brassic all right then just enough for new signs,pot plants and few other accesories but your station still has a commitment to fulfill. What you do is get your high street stores in your local town to sponsor and name your jets. And If your still skint they can for a price,rename your station
Imagine it
Tannoy in air terminal "welcome to RAF(insert fave burger joint) your flight to wherever is on the (insert fave burger from above said fave burger joint) jet. You options are endless they could even provide a substitute to orange squash and bensons crisps.
Folks I think with a bit of tinkering this could go somewhere
serious suggestions/ideas only please.
Been thinking about this for a while. Every body talks about the pot being empty i`ve got a few radical ideas here we go then.
1. Think about it. It`s that time of the year when your station has its annual visit by an important person. You know that day of the year were you wear a different uniform Instead of looking like an RAC man you look like a chauffer (sorry spelling). Instead of painting grass patching things up and glossing stuff over and all the other stuff . Why not instead.
Send high ranking gold braided visitor a nice photo album cum year book instead . Imagine it we could save a fortune. Nice photographic scenes in a gucci album. He could then cut them out and use his fave pictures for post cards.
2. Think about it. Your station is skint brassic all right then just enough for new signs,pot plants and few other accesories but your station still has a commitment to fulfill. What you do is get your high street stores in your local town to sponsor and name your jets. And If your still skint they can for a price,rename your station
Imagine it
Tannoy in air terminal "welcome to RAF(insert fave burger joint) your flight to wherever is on the (insert fave burger from above said fave burger joint) jet. You options are endless they could even provide a substitute to orange squash and bensons crisps.
Folks I think with a bit of tinkering this could go somewhere
serious suggestions/ideas only please.
.....or when redundacies are announced...say at 10% of staff....then it is 10% across the board by each rank....most senior first....if you have not been promoted earlier....and thus now junior....you are deadwood and need to go.
Schweppes could sponsor the small fleet at Wad******n - Schhhh - You Know Who
Toys 'R' us could sponser the Harrier force
Action Man sponsor the Apache
Tonka Toys sponsorship for the Tornado Fleet
Barbie can sponsor the rest of the Teeny Weenies
Toys 'R' us could sponser the Harrier force
Action Man sponsor the Apache
Tonka Toys sponsorship for the Tornado Fleet
Barbie can sponsor the rest of the Teeny Weenies
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Now there's an idea - saving money!!!
What's always confused me is why do the rest of the RAF have to pay for lunch in the mess (assuming they do not live in the mess) yet the aircrew get a free lunch - more commonly known as aircrew rations. Most RAF blokes - be they aircrew or ground branch - turn up for work (on average) 5 days a week and do about 50 hours a week. So, just because I am flying between, lets say 11 AM and 1.30PM, why should I get a free lunch? If as a ground branch bloke I was working over lunch hour, I would have a couple of options - bring some food from home (my expense) or buy a sandwich from the NAAFI (my expense). So why do aircrew get a free lunch. Take another example - RAF police dog handlers. OK - they choose to do the job. But they only work nights and in the winter tend to do about 12 hours at a time. Do they get a free meal in the JRM - no!!! Instead, they have to beg, borrow or steal a loaf of old bread or bring sandwiches in. Perhaps the days of "high energy rations" for aircrew should be over - aircrew are not flying 7-8 hour missions over Germany any more, being shot at in the middle of the night, in the frezzing cold, flying op missions. Why can't the aicrew eat (at their own expense) before they fly?? Obvious exceptions are long AT routes and trails - if you are away from base for over 5 hours you get subs allowance to pay for the curled up Spar sandwich so some food in fight is fair. A bit of a whinge - but if the officer corps (and that includes 99% of aircrew) are supposed to be the leaders, perhaps some leadership should be shown.
What's always confused me is why do the rest of the RAF have to pay for lunch in the mess (assuming they do not live in the mess) yet the aircrew get a free lunch - more commonly known as aircrew rations. Most RAF blokes - be they aircrew or ground branch - turn up for work (on average) 5 days a week and do about 50 hours a week. So, just because I am flying between, lets say 11 AM and 1.30PM, why should I get a free lunch? If as a ground branch bloke I was working over lunch hour, I would have a couple of options - bring some food from home (my expense) or buy a sandwich from the NAAFI (my expense). So why do aircrew get a free lunch. Take another example - RAF police dog handlers. OK - they choose to do the job. But they only work nights and in the winter tend to do about 12 hours at a time. Do they get a free meal in the JRM - no!!! Instead, they have to beg, borrow or steal a loaf of old bread or bring sandwiches in. Perhaps the days of "high energy rations" for aircrew should be over - aircrew are not flying 7-8 hour missions over Germany any more, being shot at in the middle of the night, in the frezzing cold, flying op missions. Why can't the aicrew eat (at their own expense) before they fly?? Obvious exceptions are long AT routes and trails - if you are away from base for over 5 hours you get subs allowance to pay for the curled up Spar sandwich so some food in fight is fair. A bit of a whinge - but if the officer corps (and that includes 99% of aircrew) are supposed to be the leaders, perhaps some leadership should be shown.
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Have a team of personnel that hold a supply of pot plants / new signs etc and go around ahead of the reviewing officers to put them in place and them take them away to the next station once he has gone. Or cut the number of stations which in turn reduces the need for the number of reviewing officers (first part done already) should save a packet on senior officers pay alone!
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I suggest that the savings made by preventing all the blunties from wearing the gucci aircrew kit would more than make up for the provision of high energy rations..........
Fights on
HEDP
I suggest that the savings made by preventing all the blunties from wearing the gucci aircrew kit would more than make up for the provision of high energy rations..........
Fights on
HEDP
Aircrew rations.
There's a very good reason we get aircrew rations.
That's because we don't get to go and sit in the mess for an hour and enjoy a nice lunch whilst reading the paper. When in the middle of a five hour planning/flying/debriefing cycle there isn't always time to get a proper lunch.
When we do have time we usually go for a quick bite in the feeder which we do pay for.
And finally, if you call toast and biscuits a free lunch then you definitely need to get out more!
BV
That's because we don't get to go and sit in the mess for an hour and enjoy a nice lunch whilst reading the paper. When in the middle of a five hour planning/flying/debriefing cycle there isn't always time to get a proper lunch.
When we do have time we usually go for a quick bite in the feeder which we do pay for.
And finally, if you call toast and biscuits a free lunch then you definitely need to get out more!
BV
Tornado Sqn, early 90s - feeder on Sqn feeds all and sundry on night shift
Tornado Sqn, 10 years on - feeder on Sqn opens only for lunch so groundcrew have to travel the length of the airfield to get food in the main dining hall - wastes best part of an hour per bod.
Suggest to OC Catering that feeder is opened in the evening - when he picks himself off the floor following his laughing fit he explains its all to do with "efficiencies"
Even OC Eng couldn't get it changed...ain't progress wonderful?
Tornado Sqn, 10 years on - feeder on Sqn opens only for lunch so groundcrew have to travel the length of the airfield to get food in the main dining hall - wastes best part of an hour per bod.
Suggest to OC Catering that feeder is opened in the evening - when he picks himself off the floor following his laughing fit he explains its all to do with "efficiencies"
Even OC Eng couldn't get it changed...ain't progress wonderful?
Make the working day 10am till 4 pm - Save lots of electricity
Do not let aircraft start engines until they have a clear taxi and take off run and no hold at threshold, No more than 1 circuit per sqn 4 ship on RTB - Save lots of Fuel
Aircrew coaches not dispatched until aircraft has stopped engines, save diesel fuel.
Bin AOCs inspections in toto and use the money saved to re-instate all of the above.
Do not let aircraft start engines until they have a clear taxi and take off run and no hold at threshold, No more than 1 circuit per sqn 4 ship on RTB - Save lots of Fuel
Aircrew coaches not dispatched until aircraft has stopped engines, save diesel fuel.
Bin AOCs inspections in toto and use the money saved to re-instate all of the above.
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Good example, and there are many, many more.
The lunatics who have been running the asylum for the last few years have created this kind of madness. Short term, and often miniscule, savings in one area are praised, whilst the longer term and wider effects are either not recognised or ignored.
Witness the recent case in Barrow-in-Furness. Manager allegedly cancelled maintenance contract to save money, oh well done Missy, you've saved the council some cash. Some time later, oh bugger, we've got an oubreak of legionnaire's disease because we haven't maintained out air conditioing properly.
It's not an MoD example, but I just wonder how relevant it is ?
Safety_Helmut
Good example, and there are many, many more.
The lunatics who have been running the asylum for the last few years have created this kind of madness. Short term, and often miniscule, savings in one area are praised, whilst the longer term and wider effects are either not recognised or ignored.
Witness the recent case in Barrow-in-Furness. Manager allegedly cancelled maintenance contract to save money, oh well done Missy, you've saved the council some cash. Some time later, oh bugger, we've got an oubreak of legionnaire's disease because we haven't maintained out air conditioing properly.
It's not an MoD example, but I just wonder how relevant it is ?
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The reason that aircrew were given rations is simple. It is a FACT that energy levels become much lower at certain parts of the 24 hour cycle. Blood suger levels drop, and there is a dramatic decrease in a humans ability to concentrate. The consequences of this are quite clear, its nothing to do with leadership so get of your soapbox. Most aircrew dont know why we're given mars bars and butty boxes (the herc mates dont know why they're given 10 buttyboxes per flight), it is simply to prevent a drop in blood sugar levels. Now stop using this forum as an excuse to chest poke the officer cadre over complete c**p. I was an ex ranker, you sound very bitter and twisted.
Now more seriously SAVING MONEY!
I have just saved lots of money. All of you chumsters out there that like to have personalised number plates and pay anything from £500 to £5000 for them, stop what you are doing!. You can change your name by deed poll for £10 and then have the perfect personalised registration number at a fraction of the cost. I have just done it myself.
yours sincerely
Flt Lt X294 VWP
The reason that aircrew were given rations is simple. It is a FACT that energy levels become much lower at certain parts of the 24 hour cycle. Blood suger levels drop, and there is a dramatic decrease in a humans ability to concentrate. The consequences of this are quite clear, its nothing to do with leadership so get of your soapbox. Most aircrew dont know why we're given mars bars and butty boxes (the herc mates dont know why they're given 10 buttyboxes per flight), it is simply to prevent a drop in blood sugar levels. Now stop using this forum as an excuse to chest poke the officer cadre over complete c**p. I was an ex ranker, you sound very bitter and twisted.
Now more seriously SAVING MONEY!
I have just saved lots of money. All of you chumsters out there that like to have personalised number plates and pay anything from £500 to £5000 for them, stop what you are doing!. You can change your name by deed poll for £10 and then have the perfect personalised registration number at a fraction of the cost. I have just done it myself.
yours sincerely
Flt Lt X294 VWP
1. Bin the idea of AOC inspections
2. Bin seperate Commands and Groups
3. Bin Aide de Camps and their like
4. This could save a fortune, apart from combat wear, bin all hats in the military.
Why do you wear hats? It stopped being regular practice in the rest of the world about 50 years ago, hoods and baseball caps have made minor inroads of late, but why do folk in the military have to wear hats?
2. Bin seperate Commands and Groups
3. Bin Aide de Camps and their like
4. This could save a fortune, apart from combat wear, bin all hats in the military.
Why do you wear hats? It stopped being regular practice in the rest of the world about 50 years ago, hoods and baseball caps have made minor inroads of late, but why do folk in the military have to wear hats?
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Why stop at hats?
1. Bin uniforms.
2. Get rid of messes - give everyone an extra £2.50 a week to find their own accommodation (call it the 'ex factor'), whilst offering up the Stn sports pitches as camping grounds for those who can't afford to live off base (then we won't need PAYD).
3. Sell all the Married Quarters to a Japanese Company (for peanuts) and then rent them back whilst agreeing to release, say, 10% of them every 2 years. Conveniently forget that this means that by 2020 there will be no Married Quarters left.
4. From now on, Dining-In Nights to be Dining-Out Nights held at Beafeater or local equivalent (for Command HQs) and McDonalds/Burger King (for Stations).
5. Instead of all the above, hold bi-monthly compulsory lectures for all personnel to be instructed on what life used to be like, thus developing Service Ethos! Or alternatively write a book about it and issue enough for one for each person to SPFSs, enabling them to completely fill their storerooms leaving no room for other expensive stuff (saving money).
6. Get rid of all those noisy, smelly flying thingies (let's face it, they are the root cause of all our expenditure!).
BA
Why stop at hats?
1. Bin uniforms.
2. Get rid of messes - give everyone an extra £2.50 a week to find their own accommodation (call it the 'ex factor'), whilst offering up the Stn sports pitches as camping grounds for those who can't afford to live off base (then we won't need PAYD).
3. Sell all the Married Quarters to a Japanese Company (for peanuts) and then rent them back whilst agreeing to release, say, 10% of them every 2 years. Conveniently forget that this means that by 2020 there will be no Married Quarters left.
4. From now on, Dining-In Nights to be Dining-Out Nights held at Beafeater or local equivalent (for Command HQs) and McDonalds/Burger King (for Stations).
5. Instead of all the above, hold bi-monthly compulsory lectures for all personnel to be instructed on what life used to be like, thus developing Service Ethos! Or alternatively write a book about it and issue enough for one for each person to SPFSs, enabling them to completely fill their storerooms leaving no room for other expensive stuff (saving money).
6. Get rid of all those noisy, smelly flying thingies (let's face it, they are the root cause of all our expenditure!).
BA
BigginAgain,
Er, I think you'll find that your option No.3 has already been done by a certain Mr Portillo aided by Mr Soames.....................
WHY do you still wear hats?
Er, I think you'll find that your option No.3 has already been done by a certain Mr Portillo aided by Mr Soames.....................
WHY do you still wear hats?
prOOne
Because we can!!!
And just because society has lost most of its standards doesn't mean that we in the military should. (Surely a baseball cap is by definition a hat?)
And if we stopped wearing hats we would start to look like the US military - saluting with no hats on!!
Because we can!!!
And just because society has lost most of its standards doesn't mean that we in the military should. (Surely a baseball cap is by definition a hat?)
And if we stopped wearing hats we would start to look like the US military - saluting with no hats on!!
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How about obtaining sponsorship for our uniforms, a bit like football shirts. Then we could save money and get someone like the RAC to .......................................................oops!
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So why do aircrew get a free lunch
So, why do RAF Aircrew get free food????? why can't they pay l;ike the rest of us????