Centralised Engineering At Lyneham
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From: Wiltshire
Taxied in squillions..ish times and never been met by the mythical fixing team yet 
... in fact it's fairly regular for the de blank or see off team to fail to materialise
Not a whinge just an observation
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
... in fact it's fairly regular for the de blank or see off team to fail to materialiseNot a whinge just an observation
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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From: my own little world
Don't blame the lineys for the non attendance at these vital times in your life. It is down to the silly old seniors who fail to task us. I mean heaven help us if we have independant thoughts, that sort of thing will never do.
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Me thinks you may just be right. The sooner things get fixed so as we work like a well oiled machine the better. Unfortunatley I don't think it will ever happen.
Not long till life ex so little me is happy to be seing the back of it.
Not long till life ex so little me is happy to be seing the back of it.
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From: UK
Otis Spunktrouser, allow me.
Logistics Transformation Success Story - The Lyneham White Van Men!
Trying to fix something that wasn't broken.
At RAF Lyneham, the Hercules C130 repair and maintenance teams are speeding up the turnaround times for their aircraft.
No they are not.
When an aircraft is returning from a mission, it radios ahead its unserviceabilities and snags.
They always did do that.
To speed up Hercules repairs, the Mobile Issue Centre (MIC) truck, formerly known as the Fast Action Response Team (FART) wagon, was procured from MT, saving it from the scrap yard, and kitted out by the Hercules K 'Lean' Team.
The MIC wagon was rarely used and long term unserviceable itself. It was 'white fleet' (hired) so no-one saved it from the scrap yard, it wasn't ours.
The Lean Team is dedicated to reducing waste, cutting bureaucracy and adding value to everyday practices.
Removing some of the bureaucratic tool checks has already resulted in a torch spending a couple of weeks leant up against an elevator control rod.
Because the squadron is forewarned of the aircraft's faults, when the aircraft lands, the MIC truck is waiting at the flight line with the right technicians, spares and equipment on board to repair the aircraft.[/I]
The Lean Team is a nice place to put all the sicknotes who aren't allowed to work on aircraft. They have endless meetings before deciding to paint squares on the hangar floor to store your drip trays. Then they have an out-brief before a self congratulatory press release. Then they invite an Air Vice Marshall to look at the squares.
The maintenance team arrives on the flight line and commences a hot-debrief with the aircrew before the aircraft is shut down.
No they don't
This eliminates the time that was spent de-briefing and collecting all the relevant equipment and spares before any repairs could take place.
No, sorry. The MIC trailers are stationary and don't contain the necessary tools to either change a wheel, pump up a tyre or charge an accumulator! Some turn round!
As OC 24 Sqn *** ****** said, "It's a welcome sight to have the team ready and waiting to fix the aircraft as we taxi in. Working hand in hand with the rectification team on the flight line is something we do on deployment and it's a welcome move at home too". Lyneham have plans to develop the MIC van idea and put a fleet of MIC trailers on the flight-lines.
No comment
Another Lean Team has also looked at the process of re-roleing C130 aircraft between missions. C130 fuselage load-bays are designed to be reconfigured for each sortie to be able to carry different cargo, for instance, troops, freight or tanks. When an aircraft lands, the load-bay often needs to be reconfigured for the next flight at very short notice. A multi-disciplinary team of airframe and movements personnel has been put together and provided with a van equipped with the correct tools and common re-role equipment to make the process more efficient. The Re-role Team works with the Air Load Master to ensure that re-roleing is done efficiently and correctly.
Rubbish. No disrespect to Movers & Loadies but nothing has changed here. And we used to have a dedicated role team but a previous SEngO disbanded them.
SAC *** ***** of the C130J Lean Team put the process in perspective. "It might sound simple, but by applying lean to the re-role process we hope to avoid having over £1M worth of re-role equipment unaccounted for, whilst at the same time improving aircraft availability and operational effectiveness". "Re-role spanner time won't be reduced, but the chaff around it will".
Re-inventing the wheel.
Have you got a Lean Team down there monkeybumhead?
Logistics Transformation Success Story - The Lyneham White Van Men!
Trying to fix something that wasn't broken.
At RAF Lyneham, the Hercules C130 repair and maintenance teams are speeding up the turnaround times for their aircraft.
No they are not.
When an aircraft is returning from a mission, it radios ahead its unserviceabilities and snags.
They always did do that.
To speed up Hercules repairs, the Mobile Issue Centre (MIC) truck, formerly known as the Fast Action Response Team (FART) wagon, was procured from MT, saving it from the scrap yard, and kitted out by the Hercules K 'Lean' Team.
The MIC wagon was rarely used and long term unserviceable itself. It was 'white fleet' (hired) so no-one saved it from the scrap yard, it wasn't ours.
The Lean Team is dedicated to reducing waste, cutting bureaucracy and adding value to everyday practices.
Removing some of the bureaucratic tool checks has already resulted in a torch spending a couple of weeks leant up against an elevator control rod.
Because the squadron is forewarned of the aircraft's faults, when the aircraft lands, the MIC truck is waiting at the flight line with the right technicians, spares and equipment on board to repair the aircraft.[/I]
The Lean Team is a nice place to put all the sicknotes who aren't allowed to work on aircraft. They have endless meetings before deciding to paint squares on the hangar floor to store your drip trays. Then they have an out-brief before a self congratulatory press release. Then they invite an Air Vice Marshall to look at the squares.
The maintenance team arrives on the flight line and commences a hot-debrief with the aircrew before the aircraft is shut down.
No they don't
This eliminates the time that was spent de-briefing and collecting all the relevant equipment and spares before any repairs could take place.
No, sorry. The MIC trailers are stationary and don't contain the necessary tools to either change a wheel, pump up a tyre or charge an accumulator! Some turn round!
As OC 24 Sqn *** ****** said, "It's a welcome sight to have the team ready and waiting to fix the aircraft as we taxi in. Working hand in hand with the rectification team on the flight line is something we do on deployment and it's a welcome move at home too". Lyneham have plans to develop the MIC van idea and put a fleet of MIC trailers on the flight-lines.
No comment
Another Lean Team has also looked at the process of re-roleing C130 aircraft between missions. C130 fuselage load-bays are designed to be reconfigured for each sortie to be able to carry different cargo, for instance, troops, freight or tanks. When an aircraft lands, the load-bay often needs to be reconfigured for the next flight at very short notice. A multi-disciplinary team of airframe and movements personnel has been put together and provided with a van equipped with the correct tools and common re-role equipment to make the process more efficient. The Re-role Team works with the Air Load Master to ensure that re-roleing is done efficiently and correctly.
Rubbish. No disrespect to Movers & Loadies but nothing has changed here. And we used to have a dedicated role team but a previous SEngO disbanded them.
SAC *** ***** of the C130J Lean Team put the process in perspective. "It might sound simple, but by applying lean to the re-role process we hope to avoid having over £1M worth of re-role equipment unaccounted for, whilst at the same time improving aircraft availability and operational effectiveness". "Re-role spanner time won't be reduced, but the chaff around it will".
Re-inventing the wheel.
Have you got a Lean Team down there monkeybumhead?
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From: Uranus
SPHL
I agree with everything you have ever said or thought, except for your choice of aristocratic pin up. Your office makes my eyes bleed.
ZH875
We all know there's only one post within engineering at Lyneham that Lean needs to be applied to.
I agree with everything you have ever said or thought, except for your choice of aristocratic pin up. Your office makes my eyes bleed.
ZH875
We all know there's only one post within engineering at Lyneham that Lean needs to be applied to.
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From: my own little world
SPHL
Not yet but give it time. I mean everything is working quite well at the moment, but then eng dets usually do work better when there are less senior sirs sticking their noses into the running of them. I know I shouldn't say that as some self important to$$er will now see the need to do a bit of wheel reinvention down in this lovely little rock.
I didn't know you were into equine activitys, whatever floats your boat I suppose.
Not yet but give it time. I mean everything is working quite well at the moment, but then eng dets usually do work better when there are less senior sirs sticking their noses into the running of them. I know I shouldn't say that as some self important to$$er will now see the need to do a bit of wheel reinvention down in this lovely little rock.
I didn't know you were into equine activitys, whatever floats your boat I suppose.
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From: ISK
I was speaking to some Herc guys the other week in Cyprus, and they all reckon that the new engineering system at Lyneham is a load of b******s. More work, less people, and more bull****.
We're going through the same leaning processes at Kinloss, and it's having a devastating effect on morale.....
We're going through the same leaning processes at Kinloss, and it's having a devastating effect on morale.....
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From: various bits of UK
Was any one present when the two AVM's walked through the engineering establishment the other day?
I believe that the conversation went something like this...
OBEng ....so when the aircraft come in if they are U/S then they are fixed by FLECS and if there is a large amount of short to medium term maintenance then it is carried out by the Continuity Team.
AVM. What!...in my day as an EngO we used to call that The Line and the other group was called Heavy Rects!...Are you telling me that you have reinvented second line?
OBEng...Er No...The aircraft just come down more U/S and therefore are on the ground for longer.
AVM. So how come they weren't this U/S when you had two lines running?
Apparently the subject was changed at this point due to the transparency of the situation.
The next day there was an overheard office meeting (and this sounds like a bigger U-Turn than a Labour policy).
JEngO. Did the AVM's do a Q&A session in the hangar after the walk round or did they go because they were behind time?
OBEng. No they did a Q&A but the crew room was so packed that they had to turn people away.
JEngO. So what kinds of Q's were asked and what were the responses?
OBEng ...Oh there were many but I think that the AVM's got a fell for the place and will understand that there are many problems here and now this information will go up to the top and something will get done about it.
At this point the conversation stopped. It is not known if it was due to stunned disbelief of not.
So does this mean that now OBEng has orchestrated all this havoc that she does not trust her own convictions and is doing the normal trick of leaving it to the next one in (apparently someone form an IPT, by the end of summer) and walks away with the prestigious gong? - I think I shall follow the footpath labelled PVR - it will be the fastest way to sanity - Good riddance to the Royal Ar5e Farce!!!!
I believe that the conversation went something like this...
OBEng ....so when the aircraft come in if they are U/S then they are fixed by FLECS and if there is a large amount of short to medium term maintenance then it is carried out by the Continuity Team.
AVM. What!...in my day as an EngO we used to call that The Line and the other group was called Heavy Rects!...Are you telling me that you have reinvented second line?
OBEng...Er No...The aircraft just come down more U/S and therefore are on the ground for longer.
AVM. So how come they weren't this U/S when you had two lines running?
Apparently the subject was changed at this point due to the transparency of the situation.
The next day there was an overheard office meeting (and this sounds like a bigger U-Turn than a Labour policy).
JEngO. Did the AVM's do a Q&A session in the hangar after the walk round or did they go because they were behind time?
OBEng. No they did a Q&A but the crew room was so packed that they had to turn people away.
JEngO. So what kinds of Q's were asked and what were the responses?
OBEng ...Oh there were many but I think that the AVM's got a fell for the place and will understand that there are many problems here and now this information will go up to the top and something will get done about it.
At this point the conversation stopped. It is not known if it was due to stunned disbelief of not.
So does this mean that now OBEng has orchestrated all this havoc that she does not trust her own convictions and is doing the normal trick of leaving it to the next one in (apparently someone form an IPT, by the end of summer) and walks away with the prestigious gong? - I think I shall follow the footpath labelled PVR - it will be the fastest way to sanity - Good riddance to the Royal Ar5e Farce!!!!
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From: Mostly gardening
You'll all be glad to know now that her promotion to Gp Capt is CONFIRMED.
The new guy is from Strike, not an IPT. He arrives on 8 Aug. She leaves a week later. The guys are holding a leaving do, but she's not invited.
The new guy is from Strike, not an IPT. He arrives on 8 Aug. She leaves a week later. The guys are holding a leaving do, but she's not invited.
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From: bristol
I think that's harsh 6 blades, it's just that this f***ing female is useless enough for all of them! The people responsible for her 2 promotions should be ashamed/ shot/ ashamed whilst being shot.
How Lyneham has a single GE with this situation on top of the "no flying pay" problem (that's been well documented) is beyond me.
How Lyneham has a single GE with this situation on top of the "no flying pay" problem (that's been well documented) is beyond me.
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Enjoy your 'Ditch the Bitch' party; things can surely only get better....
We had a useless SEngO once who just disappeared without trace - just left a note to the Boss to say he had left.
We had a useless SEngO once who just disappeared without trace - just left a note to the Boss to say he had left.
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From: wilts
Having left the wonderful wiltshire establishment I wonder if anyone can confirm the rumor that crews are going down south to do such nice things as MCT, as serviceability at base is that poor. If this is happening will it spread to the hot sandy areas as well?