7X paycheck
 

Anyone out there with an idea on Capt. salary (Europe ) for Falcon 7X?

Hi,

I have an upcoming interview with SFS and was wondering if anybody had any information on the structure of the technical exam, interview and sim ride. Any information would be most appreciated, either on the forum or via pm if preferred.

Thank you in advance.

I agree their website is totally un professional:confused:

Hi,

I have a question guys.If I join Saudia as a capt on A320 does it mean I´ll stay there forever or do I get a chance for the fleet upgrade (mean longhaul) sometime in the future?
Thnx for the reply
BBJet

How is the situation in Saudia according to what's going on in Bahrain and Kuwait? Real info appreciated,thks!

no real difference on the streets, if there is something brewing then it is awful quiet.
life moves on here like always. SO far.

Are there still humvees inside each entrance to Saudia city, with some poor wretch manning a weapon? Sam

promotion?
 

I have an offer to join the A320 fleet as a captain. Has there ever been a promotion from this fleet to the long haul fleet?

Thanks

Just curious,

I saw on Al Jazeera that Saudia King is giving a pay rise of 15% for all state employees. That means you'll get an increase as well?

Happy landings

Looks like the actual cash in thee bank is going to be less, as I look at the new terms imposed on us. I took the last 3 months and used the new imposed terms and it looks like a pay cut. Now the next question is . Does the contract the Expats have signed have any legal backing?

Did a Saudia captain pass away in an Eastern Province hospital, after having been refused access to a first hospital? Sam

Negligence alleged in Saudia pilot’s death

By ROGER HARRISON | ARAB NEWS

Published: Mar 8, 2011 00:06 Updated: Mar 8, 2011 00:06

JEDDAH: Relatives have accused Saudi Arabian Airlines and hospitals of "operational and medical negligence” following the death of a Saudia pilot who had a heart attack while flying an aircraft from Jeddah to Dammam on Feb. 5.
Capt. Khaled Mattar experienced chest pains on the flight and handed over control to his first officer who radioed ahead for medical assistance. Mattar died at 12.50 a.m. the following morning at Al-Mana Hospital in Dammam, according to his brother Ali.
Sources within Saudia both called and wrote to Arab News detailing the incident.
“Air crew and ground staff are furious at what happened,” said one source. Written allegations state that Capt. Mattar had had a “very stressful discussion with COO Abdulrahman Al-Mahboub of Saudi Arabian Airlines at the flight operations building at King Abdulaziz International Airport in Jeddah.”
The heated discussion had been over proposed new pay structures for pilots. Mattar then began his flight duty and proceeded to the dispatch area where he reviewed the flight documents, checked the weather, the aircraft status and other requirements.
The flight he was in charge of was scheduled to go to Dammam. Takeoff proceeded normally. Between Jeddah and Riyadh, Mattar reportedly told the first officer he was feeling pains in his chest and that he required medical assistance. The first officer, said the source, suggested landing at Riyadh, but Mattar did not wish to land there “for fear of repercussions” and chose to continue to Dammam.
The first officer contacted Dammam Air Traffic Control and Saudia operations advising that medical assistance was required. However, when the aircraft landed there was a delay in medical assistance arriving despite the emergency services had been advised of the situation.
When assistance finally arrived, Mattar was carried off in a stretcher. A doctor at the airport reportedly checked him and advised that there was no problem and that he just needed rest. Based on this diagnosis, Mattar was sent to the Sheraton Hotel for rest.
According to the source, after arriving at the hotel Mattar knew he was not well and wanted to go to hospital for medical treatment. He asked for an ambulance, but was asked to come down to the lobby. He did so and collapsed there. He was then taken to Tadawi General Hospital in Dammam. On arriving, his condition deteriorated to the point where he could not move.
However, the hospital refused to accept Mattar, according to documentation seen by Arab News, because “Saudi Arabian Airlines has some past due bills with us and therefore we will not accept him.”
In the case of heart attacks, time is critical and medical care was urgently needed. Pleas for the hospital to accept him because of his critical condition were ignored, the document continues. He was then taken to Al-Mana General Hospital.
Here too, sources claim, the hospital initially refused to accept Mattar because he had “no medical insurance.” However, the Sheraton Hotel contacted the hospital and pleaded with them to admit him and to charge the hotel. It was, however, too late.
He was pronounced dead just after midnight. Arab News attempted to contact Saudia by telephone and fax for comment, but at the time of going to press has received no response.
Negligence alleged in Saudia pilot?s death - Arab News

What is Saudia policy regarding children educatian allowance? They said me to pay myself and bring them the bill. How long it takes to get reimbursement? Do they cover all fees in full at any international school?

Pay yourself, submit the bills at operations. Takes about a month to 6 weeks to get the cheque back. Total re-imbursed is around 30,000 sar give or take. Not sure on the exact amount but that is close. Any half decent international school will cost you more than this.

The next big question:

Do the Expats get the 2 month salary bonus just given by the King?

I am not spending the money yet...

Silly Question, When Is this pay supposed to happen? if it happens.

It was announced yesterday, supposed to be paid in next salary. King said all Govt employees.

@Icarus: it seems that SAR65K will not be enough even for one kid in BISJ high school grades...
What about Thamer (TIS) and Al Waha international schools? Both provide IGCSE/Cambridge International and both fits to 30'000SAR (btw: does this reimbursement amount SAR30K is per child or total for all?) up to the Grade 12.
Any personal experience?
My question is based on:
TIS, Al-Wadi students excel in Cambridge exams - Arab News
http://ksis.sch.sa/FileManager/GetFile/264/ (pages 4 and 5)

Regarding "The next big question": there are some discussions in Fin dept, whether the King meant "all"...

in Saudi "all" does not mean all??? or does it?
next moon April 4 on the normal calendar good luck to yous

I have heard ALL govt employees are to included.
we will see. like it was said above, don't spend it till you see it.

what is the story in the 2 salary from King? is it for all or just locals?

did you gets any Moneys so far?
hope to all gets paid like promised.
Cheers

Salary is in the bank. No bonus for us.

I heard in finance office, by Saturday, fro what it is worth.
don't spend it all yet.

heard what ??
 

morning VTWO - just to clarify - did you hear that they expect to pay the bonus to all employees next Saturday ?? 8th April ?

I depends on who you ask. Some say All employees, others say Only Saudis and that was in Building 8 payroll dept.

I heard Aramco, Mobily, and a few other company's paid every one including Expats. if you head different please correct me.

In fact I heard of American contractors working for the Saudi Airforce got the money too.

As of today, Just the basic salary in April, still waiting for the per-diem and overtime for Feb. does anyone have info on that as well?

SO far No expenses and perdiem for Feb.??? WTF? not even a word as to when they will feel like paying the money they owe me.

Oh and the word I am hearing is "SCREW YOU" expats to the Double salary the king said to ALL employees. Like it was said above, all has different meanings here in the desert.
:ugh:

letter to the King
 

it seams that the king was informed that only Saudia does not pay the ex-pats even do he promised all the employers will get the bonus including ex-pats. So far there is a letter signed from ex-pats and saudi pilots also for the king asking why all the other companys pay the expats and only Saudia does not pay the bonus even do the money for the expats was deliverd by the king.

we will see whats going on but so far there is lots of movement and the question is rised who got the money that will be missing on the expat account...

looks good, but a usual the expat have to fight for there rights. In no other airline in the world something like this would be allowed no possible...

but maybe Saudia just wants to get all the expats to leave saudi arabien airlines. so far they are doing a great job...

"Within two years all pilots of the airline would be Saudi"

HUH? Seriously?

In two years I plan to own my own 747-800 and fly it around the world for pleasure. I have a better chance of achieving my goal than they do.

420 new trainees with 7 years equals 60 per year, or 120 in the two year period stated. Look at normal attrition due to retirement, health etc, lets say it's 5%/2%, so that's 35 Captains and 16 First Officers per year, 102 for a two year period.

Then look at the fleet plans for the next two years. Is there a sufficient crew surplus to replace all expats?

Finally look at who made the statement.

However, it is worth mentioning that it appears that ALL expat recruitment is now stopped.

Mutt

old pilots.
 

Hello Mutt
one of our former pilots asked if any country allows pilots to fly for airlines that are over the age of 65? I know that would might have some information that i can pass along to him

Thanks

hello everyone.i just wanted to confirm via this forum whether you really can't have a glass of chilled beer after a flypast over those hot dunes??
i also believe you require something called an 'exit visa' every time you need to step out for a few days to home on your days off!!
how is life within those compounds...can somebody pm me, or be more open and discuss these issues before i take THE PLUNGE ??:suspect::suspect::suspect::cool::cool::cool:

Life is all about experience and YOU will never know unless YOU take the plunge.

You should have done your research. Read Mutt's great postings he knows the place backwards.

I would have stayed longer than a year if I could. Its what you make of it.

Anyone want to jump from the frying pan into the fire?????

Also recruiting for A320/170....... will be interesting to see if they are willing to match the $16,000 per month offered by NASAIR.

Mutt

I saw yesterday they are looking for corporate jocks too. Does that exclude expats?

Where is that advertised?

Aha, found it....... strange ad, unfortunately they made that horrible mistake of not including the requirements, that means that they will get thousands of applicants with 200 hrs!!!!

Mutt

Thout that maybe it was just an ad to fill certain legal requirements but they already had their folks lined up, hence no real details.

What's the story there??

advt????
 

couldnt find the add??? where is it???
or the link...

climbto350.com

Mutt

got it.. thanks!

Is Bilal Karim still the pilot recruiter/HR rep?