Kill me? .... You can't kill me! That's just a flesh wound.

Come on ya pansy...

What have the Emiratis ever done for us?

Central heating :hmm:

the aqueduct...

EK management on parade
Keeping up their charade
One by one we fall
They never heard our call
How long will this last
Before we hear the blast
A hull is lost
They care only about the cost
Can crew be blamed
Its usually what they claimed
Watch out mere mortals
For that is exactly what you are
Give them an inch
And watch them screw you, its a cinch!!!!

This thread has suffered a fatal error (a number of them in fact) & has been binned. Please feel free to start another.

4HP

EK Resignations
 

Rumour has it at least two senior Captains resigned in the last week. Any news or just rumour?:*

One more 2 days ago but not senior.........................................

Resignations?? what resignations.... everybody happy here, nobody leaving...

res·ig·na·tion /ˌrɛzɪgˈneɪʃən/ [rez-ig-ney-shuhn] –noun

1. the act of resigning.
2. a formal statement, document, etc., stating that one gives up an office, position, etc.
3. an accepting, unresisting attitude, state, etc.; submission; acquiescence: to meet one's fate with resignation.


AHHHH, I see now, you must be refering to numeral 3.......

Nice one Southflyer, liked that one :) :D :ok: ;)

Detective EKlure
 

The 2 buckets R the big fatty in the chair and the white haired wandering around the passages I'm sure. Nothing better to do in their office time but to stirr on pprune!!:} Idjits

Wanna job with pprune?
 

Apply to EK, I'm sold that there are a couple of characters (done by one of course) that are tasked to sit on this site and throw propoganda? Think about it, pprune is the only democratic way we can have our say. They going to have to have a anti deter!!!;)

Add one more, I just turned mine in...

Me too. Was told by PP that one other the same day as me but he was giving up flying.............

I can tell you there will be one other going in first thing on Sunday!
:}
Can anyone tell me who is the best one to submit a resignation to? Someone in ops or would HR be better? No one seems to know who's running the show these days.
For an excellent synopsis of what Dubai's really like:
UAE Report
Of course, if you actually live in Dubai you won't be able to see this page without one of the technical workarounds.

just email your fleet manager!i followed up with a signed letter but i have spoken to others and all they did was send an email and they were phoned, sometimes in half an hour and that was that.............

WOW
 

That UAE Report link is mind-blowingly accurate. Says almost everything and provides links to just about all the bulls__t we have been on about for the last few years, reccommended reading for all UAE wannabees,

thanks geespot.

Perhaps if the fleet manager/HR/take your pick had responded to, or even so much as acknowledged previous emails/voicemails/desperate pleas for communication, the resignation would not even be going in.

irony is so, like, ironic.

The UAE Report is factually correct but has little effect on most peoples lives here. Ok I can't get pregnant but I am actually quite pleased that I don't have to watch tonsil hockey games at the beach. Shows what a saddo I have become.

Its an Islamic country with Islamic laws which many people, including locals, regularly break in their own homes without any comeback just like in the rest of the world. Having a Boy/Girlfriend, holding hands etc is not a problem. Getting pi$$ed and shagging someone on the dancefloor in Rock Bottoms is more likely to be noticed.

Lets face it Dubai is to most people a pretty open society and gets more so as they try to attract tourists from around the world. The Sheiks don't want you doing it on the doorstep but 'out of sight, out of mind'.

Most people that resign leave because the company has pissed them off or the people/drivers but not the police and government. The most likely reason I will leave is to do with kids education and job opportunities not sharia law.

Bugger..you saw that! I thought no one noticed....

another..
 

one more..me..:)

The UAE report link won't open :-(

Try this link:
UAE Report Mirror

Best wishes cv - I'm sorry that it's come to a stage where you're just one in a whole que of guys and folk are more concerned trying to open a web-link than considering how significant the outporing will be.

4HP

Firstly, the problems at EK which motivate people to leave can be, I believe, mostly solved non-monetarily ,and sadly, the driver behind all decisions adopted here is money and nothing more. The common complaint amongst all of us seems to be HR related - ie: 1)being awarded the leave due to you keeping in mind that the majority of people here are 'foreign' and would certainly like to see friends and family more than once a year or two. 2) Crew control - where is the 'manager'?..Emirates has turned a 90+ hour month into the norm and has such created a new 'industry' standard that appears to be on the verge of being 'expanded'..aside from absolutely no regard/respect for day/night/timezones and the ill effect on health, etc. we truly lack a 'manager' who is willing and able to put some reasonableness into this whole equation; and the excuse of understaffing, etc has run it's course. I'm sure I speak for the majority - pilots' at EK are not afraid of hard work but, as we tell our CHILDREN, respect goes both ways?
3) We've adopted a reserve system with the intent that for 20% ( based on 5 bid groups)of our working lives we will be on call, however, as time goes on even that good will is eroding. When a pilot reaches the top two bid groups it's reasonable to assume that desirable rosters should be expected. However, what now commonly occurs is the removal of flying for training or otherwise ("post -roster" publication, etc) with these trips replaced by available days; obviously what follows are highly undesirable trips that someone accepts/expects in the bottom bid groups but not the top. Hence, for what should be a bit of give and take with this bidding system frequently turns out to be an unmitigated disaster. I believe once again that 'understaffing' is a common response to the concerns?
3. How about a company that practices what it preaches? When things go wrong what happened to "it's not who's right, it's what's right?"...we live in a society (corporate or otherwise), where as long as blame can be apportioned to one individual the problem is solved. In my opinion there is a crippling lack of credibility where departments and individuals tasked with specific job functions do not have to be responsible for their actions - now I've heard for years that performance of individual(s)or departments is directly proportional to pay, etc..well, that may or may not be the case but who's problem is that?- the commander?
I realize I'm being long winded but if there is frustration at Emirates as to why there are too many resignations, well, how about looking at the obvious? As important as safety audits and CRM programs are, if you don't include everybody from top to bottom in these programs I think it's a waste of time/money/resources - when will somebody here stand back, take a breath, attempt to see where this thing is heading and then make some tough decisions that will bring the most important asset, the people, together?

4HP
 

Best wishes cv - I'm sorry that it's come to a stage where you're just one in a whole que of guys and folk are more concerned trying to open a web-link than considering how significant the outporing will be.

4HP

Thanks 4HP

In bocca al lupo CV!

picu
 

crepi..:ok: ....

I get the impression that more pilots than usual are resigning from ek at the moment.If so are they a mix of fo and cpt? Are they off the Bus or the Boeing? Has there been a net loss or gain of pilots lately considering the ammount of training they are doing?

So if your rostered into overtime why not reject the extra flying. :rolleyes:

2 FOs off my course of 8 didn't even wait to the end of their three years, they both departed before 2.5 years.
I just met another friend, a DEC, who quit with less than three years... he doesn't care...he's just leavin'! Had 'nuff. Bye bye...
Pretty sad.
My DEC buddy told me he asked about the resignations at his "departure interview" - HR person outlined that about 60 have quite so far this year, and that it's not serious enough for them to worry about.
He got a nice letter from his fleet mgr - in spite of leavin' early...

I notice this thread started a long time ago... It was started more than 2 yrs ago... it was even binned by the mod 4HP, once, but somehow resurrected isself...Since nothing has changed, in spite of best efforts, record profits etc. I don't reason there's any hope for change now is there?

sigh
k-o-t-s

Three Captains so far this month. One to easyJet Madrid, one to Mango in SA and the other just leaving.

I think it stays simple. If you dont like it here then go."Different strokes for different folks"

I'm guessing that in the next 6-8 months, we might see a significant increase in your -'s. The recruitment and retention is not keeping pace with the expansion and this factoring policy is just their first desperate reaction. I wouldn't be surprised to start seeing similar policies on sickness as the cabin crew, forced duties on days off and the like. Of course, this won't do anything to improve the core problem of recruitment and retention, but since when has pro-activeness been part of the human resource arsenal anyway?

EK resignations increase
 

The steady exodus continues with 12 pilots leaving in July alone, the saying filling the bath with the plug out springs to mind!

Try 14:ok:

How do we know 14? Is it rumour or confirmed? On the portal their are 5!

Schnowser - I've got 12 showing on "my" portal, 6 from the LHS and 6 from the RHS...

Go to July 31st, plus 1 that the RG code was only shown for 1 day earlier on in the month:ok:

I believe that there are CONSIDERABLY more who have put their resignation in the system but they are not showing yet (40+?)
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