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Tortilla 23rd Jun 2022 18:23

So… I’m happy to say that I got invitation to Dubai selection. Probably I need to schedule it in August, so quite long time to prepare.
Anyone from Airbus candidates, who can advice how simulator check looks right now, more or less? Maths test is a challenge for me as well, cause I went through some examples on LPJ website and it’s nothing crazy, but definitely needs to be refreshed.
Anyone of You plan to go to Dubai early August, late July?

VarigMD11 24th Jun 2022 04:20


Originally Posted by Sharklet (Post 11244505)
Anyone here who has not flown 150 hours in the preceding 12 months been contacted for a screening?

I was told by senior HR people that this is non-negotiable unfortunately. Sad for those of us who haven't really flown since Covid hit.

Sharklet 24th Jun 2022 12:09


Originally Posted by VarigMD11 (Post 11250798)
I was told by senior HR people that this is non-negotiable unfortunately. Sad for those of us who haven't really flown since Covid hit.

Thanks for confirming it.

quagmire69 28th Jun 2022 21:22

Hi guys,

Anyone knows after how long you can reapply after failed assesment?

Thanks!

PPRuNeUser0216 29th Jun 2022 07:40

Good afternoon, I am interested in speaking to any former Emirates pilots who were made redundant in the pandemic and have been advised that they can't return to their previous jobs. Please DM me.

HawqinsBooy 29th Jun 2022 08:37


Originally Posted by quagmire69 (Post 11253164)
Hi guys,

Anyone knows after how long you can reapply after failed assesment?

Thanks!

I think its 18 months

airbuspilot944 29th Jun 2022 11:39


Originally Posted by quagmire69 (Post 11253164)
Hi guys,

Anyone knows after how long you can reapply after failed assesment?

Thanks!

depends last I know people who failed interview after psychometric got 24 months.

PPRuNeUser0216 29th Jun 2022 19:32

Thank you for all the private messages. I will respond in due course.


Miche767 30th Jun 2022 09:11


Originally Posted by Mike Koal (Post 11253726)
Thank you for all the private messages. I will respond in due course.


Your inbox is full

nimrodjoe 30th Jun 2022 20:39

I find it very interesting to read of all the Covid-kids joining our ranks shortly. Over the years the standards have slowly slipped which can easily be seen from the training seat. Many who joined just prior to Covid are having issues after two years off because a lack of experience, and we have done very little over Covid to attract real talent to the business.

I find it amusing to read these same magenta pilots writing on this forum asking where to eat in Dubai , no doubt bringing the wife and kids to Dubai for a week of shopping malls , 600 dirham brunches, skydiving and desert tours all convincing themselves that Dubai is just the place for them.

Let’s just recap the last 2 years in Emirates.

March 2022, email sent to staff stating “emirates is committed to all employees both safety and financially” and “as part of the emirates family we will face these challenges together and become stronger together”

Then the half pay started, then the emails “meeting tomorrow” ,employees marched around the training center to be dismissed form the country with 3 months notice. Based on the “matrix.” Generally the more seniority you had , the less likely you were to stay.

More emails in June July and October . Many pilots landing from flights to check if they had an email.

Every time another batch left , a media interview from the ceo to suggest things are good.

The flight ops weekly update missed 3 weeks after the first round of redundancies, and when we did finally receive an update , not even a mention of all those dedicated pilots now in the biggest chaos of their lives. The next update the same and finally 6 weeks after , with many pilots already left , an acknowledgment of some leaving the business.

1600 pilots on the a380 before Covid and over 1000 of those many redundant without any reimbursement of their months of half pay, the highest redundancy on any one fleet in the industry , 400 on unpaid leave , without any medical insurance initially (just life and death) and 200 lucky locals (different rules for them ) and trainers allowed to fly the line.

All redundant pilots received registration of interest to return and then many were told a year later that they will not be returning without reason .

This is not and never will be place for a long stable career , for all the top gun mavericks who wish to join consider carefully the implications of leaving secure jobs to join emirates. A slightly stressful medical and an extra referral for an ecg will be counted against you and would likely result in your ultimate termination should business not go as smoothly again.

Make sure you know what you are signing up for and more importantly what you are leaving. For the pilots I foresee joining us shortly , I’d imagine what you are leaving is very little.

SaulGoodman 1st Jul 2022 05:13


Originally Posted by nimrodjoe (Post 11254269)
I find it very interesting to read of all the Covid-kids joining our ranks shortly. Over the years the standards have slowly slipped which can easily be seen from the training seat. Many who joined just prior to Covid are having issues after two years off because a lack of experience, and we have done very little over Covid to attract real talent to the business.

I find it amusing to read these same magenta pilots writing on this forum asking where to eat in Dubai , no doubt bringing the wife and kids to Dubai for a week of shopping malls , 600 dirham brunches, skydiving and desert tours all convincing themselves that Dubai is just the place for them.

Standards always have dropped AFTER the writer of the post was hired. Face it, EK never was, and never will be the first choice of airline for 99% of the candidates. You can’t blame it on the new joiners, certainly shortly after COVID, as they might have been out of work as well.

nimrodjoe 1st Jul 2022 06:31

Emirates has become the last choice for proper pilots because of the contempt they dealt employees with in the pandemic and since , completely differently to proper airlines in the west and morale is at rock bottom now. We will now recruit the 26 year old bendy cap baby face Beckhams who can clean up in Monday Madness but struggle to fly a raw data ils without a reset. We used to set the standards in the industry , pilots held gravitas , competence, professionalism, sad to see what we have become.

SaulGoodman 1st Jul 2022 07:32


Originally Posted by nimrodjoe (Post 11254423)
Emirates has become the last choice for proper pilots because of the contempt they dealt employees with in the pandemic and since , completely differently to proper airlines in the west and morale is at rock bottom now. We will now recruit the 26 year old bendy cap baby face Beckhams who can clean up in Monday Madness but struggle to fly a raw data ils without a reset. We used to set the standards in the industry , pilots held gravitas , competence, professionalism, sad to see what we have become.

Excuse me but please enlighten me when it was exactly, that EK pilots “set the standards”. Such a load of arrogance horse maneur.

airbuspilot944 1st Jul 2022 15:06


Originally Posted by nimrodjoe (Post 11254423)
Emirates has become the last choice for proper pilots because of the contempt they dealt employees with in the pandemic and since , completely differently to proper airlines in the west and morale is at rock bottom now. We will now recruit the 26 year old bendy cap baby face Beckhams who can clean up in Monday Madness but struggle to fly a raw data ils without a reset. We used to set the standards in the industry , pilots held gravitas , competence, professionalism, sad to see what we have become.

Since when does the age come into the factor of flying? Getting maturity with age is understood, but flying raw data? I have seen people with 20 years of flying experience ****ting with their raw data.

flyTheBigFatLady 2nd Jul 2022 04:47


Originally Posted by nimrodjoe (Post 11254423)
Emirates has become the last choice for proper pilots because of the contempt they dealt employees with in the pandemic and since , completely differently to proper airlines in the west and morale is at rock bottom now. We will now recruit the 26 year old bendy cap baby face Beckhams who can clean up in Monday Madness but struggle to fly a raw data ils without a reset. We used to set the standards in the industry , pilots held gravitas , competence, professionalism, sad to see what we have become.

for setting standards this company has a lot of bend metal in its history.
the only standard which was set is how to demotivate, threaten and how to manage by fear. No major airline (LH,Swiss,KLM,AA,DL,UPS etc) threats their pilots as EK or the other ME3 do.


AIMINGHIGH123 2nd Jul 2022 09:11

First world problems.

Meanwhile back in Europe:


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nimrodjoe 2nd Jul 2022 18:16

Still more appealing than living here . Your contract with ek is until your next sim
or medical .

Spongeboeing 5th Jul 2022 10:49


Originally Posted by nimrodjoe (Post 11255149)
Still more appealing than living here . Your contract with ek is until your next sim
or medical .

Your contract in aviation is always until your next medical. Always... everywhere.
If you have the feeling that your sim performance is such that you're always on the limit of failing then there's something wrong with you and if that low performance would save your job in a different company, then there's something wrong with that company.

flyTheBigFatLady 5th Jul 2022 13:37


Originally Posted by Spongeboeing (Post 11256555)
Your contract in aviation is always until your next medical. Always... everywhere.
If you have the feeling that your sim performance is such that you're always on the limit of failing then there's something wrong with you and if that low performance would save your job in a different company, then there's something wrong with that company.

EK is very special on that part - even if you don’t feel like your on the edge you easily can just because a trainer decides a minor nonsense is a big story - I have seen a trainer lying and it’s not the only time he did it - not help from management or what so ever. And if it’s not a trainer it could be the training manager who changes your result over night just because he didn’t like to see what’s written or had a misinterpretation on - all that happens in EK and many had been victims of it. While in other companies their is a fair way of approaching such an issue there is absolute nothing in terms of support from the special selected management - trainers and training management knows it and they don’t care, because they know they are protected. Especially on airbus where the the little man Syndrom CPA will never go against a trainer or training result unless it is his own

nimrodjoe 5th Jul 2022 13:59


Originally Posted by Spongeboeing (Post 11256555)
Your contract in aviation is always until your next medical. Always... everywhere.
If you have the feeling that your sim performance is such that you're always on the limit of failing then there's something wrong with you and if that low performance would save your job in a different company, then there's something wrong with that company.

When is your start date? Trainers have recently been told to “soften the objectives” to make way …


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