Thats exactly the way I see it.

You should know you are joining as an expat and being an expat will be the same in pretty much any company/country.

Yes being from the UK we have “help” from the government but we received £0. If you have savings over £12k you get 0 help. The only way you really get help is to have nothing, no savings, no property and be renting.
We still got to pay the mortgage, bills which are 50% up this year, kids nursery fees (£2500 a month for 2). Ok the government paid a bit during the initial lockdown but there were caveats to it. It wasn’t a free for all and we didn’t fit the rules.

I only know J2 who have had 7% or something pay rise this year. The rest 0.
Is what it is and with inflation over 10% this year certainly in the UK and most airport employees have to drive to work with fuel at £2a litre the next 5 years will be savage.

where have you got this rubbish from ? Absolutely clueless particularly the bit about property and requirement to rent . Wow

never mind the furlough scheme put in place to retain jobs whilst Dubai sacked everybody.

Good luck 👍

unfortunately in Germany it’s exactly that way.
if you have some sort of savings or a property there will be no help from the state.
And for the part of registering yourself unemployed, where there is usually a help, most expats are on their own because they did not contribute to the system for a good amount of years and therefore they loose their eligibility. So yes after being sacked by EK you are on your own until you find a job, which from a certain age on is nearly impossible.

Can not believe that there is educated pilots on here comparing western Europe to the Middle East. :ugh:

95 percent of guys I know in the UK would never dream of leaving their position to come to the Middle East.

Where have I got this from? Erm when I signed on to universal credit. You fill in a section that says savings etc. I spent hours on phone calls and because we had a little nest egg it meant we were entitled to nothing. The guy on the phone told me it’s better if you get rid of your savings. Ok so my mortgage is £1500 a month, Childcare £2500 a month, utilities £150 a month, food £600 a month. These are the bare basics of our out going’s and we live in a flat. Who’s going to pay that? Mate I have been through the system. There were caveats to the furlough scheme. It wasn’t you retain your full salary but a set amount that for high earners was pretty useless unless your employer was willing to top up your pay. Banks still want paying. You can’t just say to a bank can I not pay my mortgage. They don’t care. You should see the financial stats coming out of the UK right now. Many on the breadline, taken out huge mortgages at 80-90 LTV etc. It’s horrible and only going to get worse

Sorry forgot council tax which is £2500 a year.

This is before you start adding on cars, TV packages, clothes for kids etc and god forbid going out. My cousin came back from Australia first time since 2018 and she’s shocked but how bad it is here now.

Inventing the wheel is not so hard nowadays. Doing a proper risk management is harder, it seems. Either outcome (could be complaining, putting your head in the sand etc.), take action.
​​You do need to use ratio and some intelligence.

Leave your ego behind because either way you will have to bend over. Subsequently treating other people like sh*t will not make you feel better in the longterm.​​​​​

Having been part of some of our roadshows in the past I know what rubbish they are pumping guys with in hotel conference rooms around the world to try and tempt them to leave decent jobs to join us. Do some research before you commit your life to Dubai!!!!

I went to one in Madrid about ten years ago. The majority of the guys were Air Europa and Iberia. What was interesting was when they eventually put the slide with the salaries up on the screen, they all stood up and left. I only stayed to get a free pen. I noticed they only gave me one though as it was supposed to be one per person !

Hi there , are you type rates on A320 or B737 ?
I have applied too , since March , till now nothing .

Hi,

I would like to learn how is the process going on for applicants who have only 737 or 320 background. It is ok for the 30t criteria but in reality do we have a shot for now?

737 rated FO

Does anybody know, if actually EK organizers some tours for wife's, to show eventual accommodation in Dubai? My assessment in Dubai is in few weeks and we need to decide if my wife is coming with me or not.

Does anybody boeing rated has been called recently ?

​​​​​​There is a carefully crafted bespoke Emirates-pilot’s-wives-luxury-life-taster-day which begins at the marina yacht club where a Don Perignon reception with caramelized fig and truffle canapés is waiting. The specialist host will then provide elite viewings of VVIP accommodation in the 5 Star accommodation at Meydan. This occasion allows guests to experience the grandeur of this hidden gem retreat before retiring to the polo and lacrosse club for a well deserved exclusive sunset.
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But there was once such a provision, wasn't there? Or was it Cathay?

Sarcasm is not necessary.
I know that some years ago EK organized such a trips, showing any available villas or apartments. I know as well that Meydan is far away from luxury, but we don’t expect it. What we would like to know if it is the only place (company accomodation) we can be eventually located (2 + 2 + dog)

For sure was. I wasn’t sure if still existed

Tortilla, the accommodation department will put you where it wants to. This may or may not be Meydan - it could equally be a slightly tatty (or possibly very, very tatty) mid 80s (and not touched since - if you think Meydan isn't luxurious wait until you get put in one of these) villa in Al Safa - which is actually a good location. You won't be involved in the allocation process and are expected to just take the keys, smile and be grateful. It is equally possible that when you join there won't be any housing available (becuase they filled it all up with single FOs who would rather be anywhere else but aren't allowed to move out unless they buy somwhere) and you will have to rent, or buy if you are feeling lucky.

In short, don't worry about where you will end up living because you have zero control over it. It is a lottery.

You get what you are given with accommodation or forced to rent which is rapidly getting more expensive as bills go up. Beware of scams if this is the case.

Meydan south is one of the most miserable places I have visited in Dubai. The only people I have seen smiling here are those working in all day supermarket.

For many reasons we would like to avoid rental in Dubai and we would prefer company accommodation, even if it’s far from perfect. Definitely would be good to find out how it looks, more or less, just to have an idea. Do you have any list of those neighborhoods? I know about Meydan H and S, or mentioned Al Safa, Silicon Villas(?), something else? Are they furnished or totally empty? Maybe we could inform ourselves a bit, before being surprised by company. We don’t need luxury but decent space and house that is in fair condition.
I would not move my family to live in 2-3 bed apartment, so allowance is not suiting me. If they would propose that, that would be no go.
I guess they inform in advance where they want to locate us?

I would look down the road in Alain, many families live there as it’s a short hop, skip and jump down the E66.

Sharjah is also quite appealing for those who want a bit more of a cosmopolitan lifestyle on a budget.

Emirates will ask if you want to live in or rent and will 99 percent of the time give you exactly what you want and you’ll of-course know what your accommodation is before you move out to the UAE.

The vast majority of pilot’s wives are really happy and they have in most cases furthered their careers in business, law and finance.

Meydan can be quite miserable, but generally everybody gets along really well and there’s a real community feel there.

I wouldn’t worry about a car as taxis are dirt cheap in Dubai and they are usually teslas. If you do buy, have a look at Dubizzle, lots of really good guys on there looking to give you a great deal and the cars usually have a 720-point-inspection.