I email them twice on [email protected] and no one responded back to me. It's really disrespectful that you work for a company over 9 years and they don't even bother to reply back to your email.

No problem Captain ..

the arrogance will bite them sooner then later and it will be sweet revenge for lots of former and current employees.

HR just forwarded my emails to some other dept who never came back to me.

They were a useless bunch when I was in Dohell and they got even worse now.

Redundancy from QR was a blessing!

I really think it's a loss of time to contact them and I'm sure they joke about us when We are asking them a document.
The only documents I got from them are : a service letter and a incident free letter.

And trust me, it took 3 months to get them, even I never ever had any issue or report within this company.

I hope guys that we will all have an opportunity to work somewhere else and never go back to Dohell.
I was living there 4 years and I don't even miss the city a little bit.
Like said PAPA_GOLF, it's a blessing to be released from QR and leave the country heathy and with the family.

Thanks guy for the update and the rumors.

Bless you all

A330
 

Apparently some 330 guys got the email for rejoining today.
All of them are outside Doha.

No chance on the phone for the last three days. Went to Staff Travel this morning 7:15, was #4 in line.
My wife ID90 issued last June 28 with expiry date June 28 2021 was amended for outbound flight in July and return in August.
No question asked.
Staff travel, of all offices, has always been the most helpful.
They will gladly amend your ticket also by phone ...... good luck 😉

Thanks Planoramix. Do I have to call them before expiry date of the ticket ? I still don't know when I can travel and do you know of by any chances I can change the flight destination? for example from Lax-DOH to DOH- Seattle ?

More 350’s guys got an email asking them to visit the boeing office to sign a training bond for their forced fleet transfer to the triple... 😜 17 years in the airline...

Roster on both fleet are the hell. 350’s flying average 130hrs per month for FOs, slightly less for capt but this was before all the transfers. A little voice says 60 transfers planned. Cannot be true or they are shooting in their own feet. Oh but wait, standard QR!! So yep, seems possible with a such high and smart anticipation/planning. Why not!! The upcoming weeks will be interesting especially when 3 new toys are coming from Toulouse this month. So transferring super senior Airbus guys to the 777; probably calling back 787 guys to rejoin on the 350; 320 guy to the 787... seems plausible indeed! Musical chairs.

Some unlucky former colleagues who are still in Doha with the PSA done 3 months ago are still waiting for ANY kind of news......

So. Are you really willing to work for these monkeys?? People are heavily running away from the goat, even with no job behind. Fatigue is extreme, exhaustion is reached and mental health is becoming a real issue with the family apart (the borders are still closed to non-residents). More leave are expected to be taken away from deck crew during the roasted months in lovely dohell.

Brace for impact.

Why do they have a surplus flight crew on A350? they received three new A350 airplanes and they already sacked a lot of A350 pilots last year.

The Admiral is doing such a great job he has been elevated to Oneworld board chairman

https://onemileatatime.com/qatar-air...orld-chairman/

Reality is no one care about staff... people keep saying qatar has better services but it's because they also like to be served by slaves.
Even AA, Delta and United airline are changing their mind set about Qatar . It's sad to see-how people think about Qatar.

airbus350captain1

They are not. A quick calculation: according to the latest official numbers we’ve got (if they are true.......); there are an average of 8.1 skippers per 350 VS 11.3 per 777. The operations are slightly different but it is a huge difference. In other words, they try to urgently cool down the situation on the Boeing by creating an uncontrollable backfire on the Airbus.

People are protesting and not happy at all by this situation of being forced to be transferred (even more when it’s the most senior guys in the company near the retirement!) but the reply given is “take it or leave”.

Five stars management as always in this part of the World. As somebody already said, by doing that, they think they are acting like genius and get respect from everybody...

popcorn time

mmorel

What do you mean by changing thier mindset? We're they not always critical of QR? Are they now not so critical?

planoramix

Are there plans from the airline to call you back if demand picks up?

How does he know?

Seems like an official statement

Apparently

Nothing on their website tho

QR is not doing external recruitment yet. They are just calling back some of the pilots who were terminated over the last year.

They are calling back redundant crew, not terminated.
It's a different status on their HR files.

But I wonder how they proceed, is it by seniority or randomly?

is this some weird BS PR again where they try to make the company look really good from the outside? Coz I know a lot of crew are still stranded outside of their countries with no updates 🤣

Re joining Captain salary
 

Can anyone confirm that captains that are called back are receiving a salary of QR24400 + usual benefits?
This is new joiners pay minus 25% on a permanent base which basically will create a company within the compan and a lot of frustration.

As mentioned in the video, prioritizing crew with good performance/record. What ever that means? So if you have some history (letters) in the company, you are no longer welcome? Let's wait and see...

mes4x

Quite correct. I think the general consensus is revalidate and get current..... and wait for the market to open up. The salary isn't worth the effort. The only reason you come to the ME is to earn a better salary than at home. With this pay reduction, that is no longer the case.

mes4x

I enjoyed my almost 8 years in Qatar, but ultimately decided the money we were saving didn't justify being so far from home.....and my basic was 43 when I left..... For those without income and a family to feed any job is a blessing and to be appreciated-but 24,400 as a captain is pretty pathetic especially in an expensive country like Qatar.

mes4x

So you will have long time high seniority returners ( who left through no fault of their own) earning less than people who joined 18 months ago who were lucky to have remained through the pandemic? Have the ones who stayed though the pandemic also dropped 25% ?

Logic doesn’t work in this country” or in the sandpit! This is all going to bite QR pretty soon.

Agreed. All returning pilots have no bond and only seven days notice is required for six months after line check.

Returning A330 will have some kind of a bond for sure.

yep it’s the standard 3 year bond - I know a couple of guys. However most of these guys have no/minimal Boeing experience. They figure they’ll need minimum 1,000 - 2,000hrs PIC on Type to make themselves marketable… that and by the time the market picks up, it will be a couple of years before they can do anything… at which point if they want to pay the Bond off, it won’t be too much.

90% of the Rejoiners so far are already Boeing Rated… so no Bond.

Out of curiosity when would QR need to look to start hiring externally again? I’ve seen comments here and from the boss. I was one day away from handing in my notice they canned me.

You don't sound stupid, no worries. And yeah, naiveness and stup***ty are forgivable.

I am sure that the lateral head shakers will accept the new contract. "Too much good, too much good"

alphadelta1

Why would you ask for a lower salary when you can ask for no salary at all?
There you go my friends, there will always be a :mad: asking to do your job for cheaper. And after a while they're the first ones to complain about the conditions going down.
I definitely have no more faith in the pilot community...

THanks a lot Sanpilot 350 for you clarification.

Is the salary lower if you have a new staff number or same as before Covid?
I can't believe they will have 2 salary scheme for the same job.

AD1`, your obviously young and unfortunately naieve. Do you not see where this leads? So you want just enough for some small savings, the next lamb wants just enough to cover the loan from his training, the next just the hours to progress up the ladder to the next job. What is the next step up the ladder when it is this far down? You degrade our profession and ruin your own future. I understand your basis for your statement but you have to also see what you do to the profession and your fellow pilots and your future.
Do you really want to be a bargain basement pilot?

New staff number means new salary.

alphadelta1

My oh my 🤦‍♂️
You didn't even catch the irony of my comment regarding the salary (I thought it was pretty obvious but apparently not for everyone).

So, IRONIC MODE ON: you shouldn't ask for a salary because hey, let's face it, the company would do you a big favour by hiring you. First of all with just a CPL you know pretty much nothing and you will be a burden to the captain. Plus imagine all the flight hours you would log on those big shinny jets, with that experience after a few years you would finally be able to apply to an airline that gives you just enough to live as you say. Oh no wait, by then these airlines wouldn't exist anymore because of all the morrons offering to work for next to nothing. The decent airlines would not pay their pilots because they have to compete with worse airlines making their pilots pay to have the privilege to sit in their cockpit (it's called pay to fly, and it already exists). After all who cares if you don't get paid, being a pilot is still pretty cool. Imagine all the pictures you could post on instagram to impress everyone, imagine how you would look in their nice uniform, all the young and hot flight attendants will fall for you for sure!

IRONIC MODE OFF: people like you degrade the conditions for everyone, and then come and complain that the job is not what it used to be without even realizing they are the ones at the heart of the problem, shooting themselves in the foot.
We don't pay 150k just to have enough to live as you say. This is a career. If you want to have just enough to live go work for McDonald's. You are an embarrasment to the profession.

Very well said, because of these people some companies abuse pilots with pathetic working conditions and contracts

Lets be honest, Young Flight attendants would fall for a 60yr old A380 Captain too 😉