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fatbus 30th Sep 2016 11:48

I don't think any changes that might occur with CM will effect the front line crew for a very long time. It's not the Titanic sinking it's raising it off the bottom.

CTWO 30th Sep 2016 12:39


Originally Posted by pilotguy1222 (Post 9525737)
Only got to chat with one guy briefly. His question at the meeting was to JA and asked if they were aware of the resignations this would cause. He said yes and they were "prepared to lose 50%." "We are not short of pilots".

With another twist, the 330 upgrades who transferred to the 380 as CA within the past few months now are having meetings with one of the chief pilots. Doesn't sound good.

Sorry not much, but was a short chat.

Are you sure about the meeting of the last ccqed?

pilotguy1222 30th Sep 2016 14:48


Originally Posted by CTWO (Post 9525856)
Are you sure about the meeting of the last ccqed?

Positive. Talked on the phone today with someone directly involved.

Instant Hooligan 30th Sep 2016 15:21

PG, Have they finished the transition yet or still on the course?

pilotguy1222 30th Sep 2016 15:30

Finished. The class varies by a week or so, but I would say all have been done for a month at least. The notice of this came via email. Nothing on the roster to indicate.
I will know the details on the 3rd after his meeting.

fatbus 30th Sep 2016 16:39

Vote with your feet ! That's the only satisfaction you will get from EK.

Jack D 30th Sep 2016 17:32

Not short of Pilots ?
 
Interesting indeed .
As if JA would know ! Inept past manpower planning estimates bare this out surely . Veiled threats are a common defensive posture response
A form of mimicking the management defensive strategy ; 50 % is unusually precise don't you think ?
Unless something is afoot with a fleet reduction policy to fit CM ,s plan ( discussed in the gents toilet apparently ) see the email post v funny ! , conspiracy theorists go ahead, endless material , that's what this forum is for . Sorry for the guys affected by this , truly .

CTWO 1st Oct 2016 06:39


Originally Posted by pilotguy1222 (Post 9526019)
Finished. The class varies by a week or so, but I would say all have been done for a month at least. The notice of this came via email. Nothing on the roster to indicate.
I will know the details on the 3rd after his meeting.

.. the meeting will go like this...
after a powerpoint presentation (yes, you read it right!!!), they will be told :
"-airline life is a b****,take it or leave it;
-could have been worse, you could have lost T&C's;
- we have plenty of captains and if we loose you is just the manpower for 2 ULR birds: not a big deal...;
- things will not change, but do not worry: will report this meeting upstairs;
-BTW, give us back credit card and cell phone."

Sorry for the other guys...sincerely..I hope this will not affect you..

WB1900 1st Oct 2016 07:14

Wait who is getting possible upgrades in the near future. and look who can transfer fleet, then look who is downgraded and compare the numbers in the seniorty list.
eventual there will be a little down size an than compare the numbers with the article in AIN.
lets see if somebody out there has the same theory if have.

CTWO 2nd Oct 2016 04:44

...people removed from their 380 upgrade course, whilst new "meetings" are scheduled for people already on the LHS...interesting week ahead for the airbus fleet...

Yorkshire_Pudding 2nd Oct 2016 10:06

Any more news on the gcaa imposed age 35 limit for P1?

Will the under age guys loose their commands?

fatbus 2nd Oct 2016 12:21

If implemented by GCAA ( which I doubt) all those under would be put in the RHS. That's why it's not a GCAA thing. Only rumour .

CTWO 2nd Oct 2016 14:59

It has been made well clear at the meeting: it is not GCAA.

X-BleedOpen 2nd Oct 2016 15:18

CTWO,

Did they say at the meeting this is really happening? I've already sent my CV but just thinking if I should put my apartment for sale.

General Dogsbody 2nd Oct 2016 15:31

Organisations with a healthy climate typically exhibit:

• Integration of personal and organisational goals
• Justice in treatment and equitable practices
• Mutual trust, consideration and support among different levels
• Open discussion of problems and conflict
• Acceptance of the psychological contract between both parties
• Equitable system of rewards
• Opportunities for growth
• Concern for quality of working life
• Sense of identity with and loyalty to the organisation

CTWO 2nd Oct 2016 16:00


Originally Posted by X-BleedOpen (Post 9527816)
CTWO,

Did they say at the meeting this is really happening? I've already sent my CV but just thinking if I should put my apartment for sale.

It is definitely happening that A330/340 skippers with less then 2000 hrs EK PIC time are going RHS.

777boyindubai 2nd Oct 2016 16:02

General. As you allude to, NONE of this are applicable to the Costa Dwellers in the Bouncy Castle.....

fatbus 2nd Oct 2016 16:04

He was referring to the age restrictions.

330 Capt > 2000 HR bounced to the RHS, that is an EK implemented restriction

pilotguy1222 3rd Oct 2016 09:55

Ok, so it is official. All the recent 380ccq's are going back the RHS. Sounds like the same conditions as the 330/340 capts

CTWO 3rd Oct 2016 10:00


Originally Posted by pilotguy1222 (Post 9528468)
Ok, so it is official. All the recent 380ccq's are going back the RHS. Sounds like the same conditions as the 330/340 capts

No one with less then 2000 Ek PIC time is SAFE.......

BOHICA


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