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Old 19th Sep 2016, 06:27
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Captain 330/340 transfer policy

Hi there,
I am sure you heard the news: bus skippers seating on the RHS of the fat lady to build PIC hours,whilst maintaining terms and conditions....care to comment?
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 06:37
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Hi there,
I am sure you heard the news: bus skippers seating on the RHS of the fat lady to build PIC hours,whilst maintaining terms and conditions....care to comment?
All the money, none of the responsibility - to some no doubt would sound like Christmas!!
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 06:38
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It sucks, big time, but as long as you don't have any change to your terms and conditions, AND, don't have to go through an NaC course then it might be the best job in EK. However the Oxygen thieves in the bouncy castle almost certainly won't do that...

Another nail in the coffin of morale at EK...
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 06:52
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All the 330/340captains with less then 2000 hrs PIC on 330/340 received an email:

you'll go RHS "as a captain" acting FO maintaining terms and conditions, for a period dependent upon your PIC time ( 24months/1500 hrs if with <1000 330 PIC ;18months/1000hrs if with <2000hrs). When time is up, you'll go trough a " Captain transfer course" (whatever that means)upon approval by the A380 Command review board.
Funny part is that is not retroactive....those whom just CCQed without requirements are SAFE......
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 07:17
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They call this management?

Let me understand this new policy correctly…..
  • We hired a number of DECs to the A330. We hired them because they were apparently experienced on the Airbus.
  • We gave them all the company induction training, an Airbus A330 type rating course, and a Airbus A330 command course.
  • We didn’t communicate with our pilots for a whole year, and during that time we discreetly retired over 20 Airbus aircraft without telling anyone what the plan would be, contrary to our company policies.
  • Then after using these DECs for less than 6 months, we transferred some of them to the Airbus A380 as Captains without any serious operational incident occurring and they are SAFE!
However, because a local captain flying a Boeing was involved in our first ever hull loss, we then decided that any remaining DECs and long-time Captains would be relegated to the right seat of the A380 and make them First Officers until 1000 hrs A380 time AND 18 months on type AND 3 successful proficiency checks. Sure, we will let them keep their existing benefits, but we will need them to go through another selection review board and upgrade course in a few years.

Surely this policy needs to be reviewed and explained to the mere workers. Is there any guarantee that there will not be yet another policy change, and when you fail the subsequent upgrade course, you will be salary deducted the extra pay for time spent in the right hand seat?

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Old 19th Sep 2016, 07:24
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Wtf?! Is it April fools day or something?
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 07:32
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..nope...unfortunately is black on white...I reckon that since this affects only a small part of the left seater population, it will be tolerated,digested and eventually forgotten..." no one cares of the fallen tree if it is not in his backyard"..
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 08:02
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Lets be honest, the 330/340 guys have been getting the short end for a long time and no one has said a word. This will not be any different.
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 14:37
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The recent DEC's have not yet been transferred. They will go as FO's. What a shambles this place has become.
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 15:01
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you got that wrong sluggums...some dec's have already ccqed..and hence they are SAFE.
I would be more "troubled" considering those "regular" captains with almost 1900 EK PIC and 9 yrs in EK ...
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 15:24
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Ok, fair enough. DEC's from 3-5 years ago...
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 16:13
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5yrs ago no dec....3 years ago they all transitioned,with very few exceptions...only dec's left are from oct 2015 onward..8/10 guys may be?...what about the "regular"?
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 20:05
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The boys in question are already starting to bail like rats on a sinking ship, and rightly so. Good luck to them all. None of that deserve this. It's just rude.
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 20:35
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If I was 10 years younger and still on the 330 I know where I would be. $$$
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 20:56
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Shocking, sad and rude.
Like MosEisley writes, the smallbus chaps have been getting the short end of the stick for too long a time. This is just adding insult to injury.
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 21:04
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A new and disgraceful low for the hardest working guys. I never believed the monkeys in EGHQ could drill any deeper.
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Old 20th Sep 2016, 01:01
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Why can't they go to the 777 as Captains?
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Old 20th Sep 2016, 01:49
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And what's so fn special about 380?
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Old 20th Sep 2016, 02:20
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I think we all know there is nothing special whatsoever about the 380. There are however certain individuals in A380 Training who are very, very, special indeed.
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Old 20th Sep 2016, 03:14
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This new policy has nothing to do with the training department.
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