very confused here
 

All right Gents :
I must say i'm very confused about this.
I received 2x letters today . they look same first a letter of acceptance (without noting for interview or assessment notice) !!!!!
And 2nd is a welcome note to joining the company:confused:
Can anyone tell me how the procedure goes in NAS air please?
So if all that goes right then what about the high failing rate and specially if it take such long time to get too flying parts or sim parts ??:suspect:

Any help or advise would be greatly appreciate it.
fly safe

Help me please !!!
 

Guys, I am trying to get an interview with nas air. I meet all the requirements and had send them my online application few times but no response so far. How long you guys had to wait before you got an interview call ? Also I want to know what kind of questions were asked ?
Whats up with high failure rate, I noticed few people mentioned that earlier ? Any info will be appreciated, I just want to make sure I know what I am getting myself into. Thanx

US pilots
 

is it that bad in the US? seems to me that you are desperate. Do your homework and take one step backward and evaluate.

It will come down to desperation if I dont make a move now. Got a letter last week from HR, will be furloughed by end of October.

Guys, it's holiday season here, i'm in the office at the moment, and anyone who would be of help to you is not here. I can only try to pass on the sentiment here - and that is that there are pilots out there who are trying to get in touch

Fly Ginger

Hi there anything new on NAS i recieved the paperwork to fill out online yesterday and just sent it back. Oh im dealing with Flight Crew Solutions the person ive been talking to has been most helpful about answering my questions. BTW i have 2300TT 1300 SIC jet 250 in the E170/175 and NOT current. I understand living in KSA may not be for everyone, and honestly all im seeing is the $$$$. I figure at 22 single with no family i can sacrifice QOL for a few years. The only thing that does concern me a little is safety I have tried to research the region seems ok i guess. I do worry about walking onto some sort of sacred ground accidently or getting accused of smiling at a woman. On the plus side I hear that the KSA is very modern much like the US, I guess they have to spend all that oil money on something, any truth to that? Although I am an American Catholic fluent in spanish my father was syrian and my middle name does happen to be Mohamad, could that be bad if people found out, Im not Muslim nor do i speak any kind of arabic. Anyway pardon my ignorance just trying to do as much homework as i possibly can thank you for any help

Providing you don't make a fool of yourself and respect the laws of the land then you won't have too much to worry about.

Nas Air
 

Nasair guys : How much do you typically fly per month, what are schedules or rostering like. What is the housing situation in base. is it paid for or if not does the housing alowance cover your costs. Are your layover hotels covered? If you had the choice , Nas or Aramco? Thanks.

Aramco or NAS
 

All Aramco rejects go to NAS. I hope this answer your question.

Aramco
 

I'm not an Aramaco reject, and don't think many of us are ... if any.

I like many of my colleagues are here for lifestyle that the 35/31 pattern gives us, a shame it is not currently on offer for new joiners.

Anyone else waiting on paperwork processing for NAS? Just wondering what's the status of the classes that were supposed to be starting this month (Oct 5 and Oct 18).

The Moslem holiday of Eid Al Fitr was 2 days ago, this basically means that ALL government offices in Saudi were closed for last 10 days and will remain closed until the 11th October, whilst I wouldn’t expect NAS to be decadent enough to give their employees the same long holidays as government employees, their hands will be tied in relation to obtaining visas etc......

So I suggest that its a case of sitting back and relaxing for a couple of weeks.

Good Luck.

Mutt

Nas Air
 

Could anyone tell me what the schedules are, how much you typically fly per month and the housing scheme. Thanks.

Expect close to max hours, anything less would be a bonus. Housing i have no idea about, most of us are in hotels, but there is rumour of a compound before the end of the year.

Be careful now, i did say a rumour...........:}

I'm still waiting patiently for Visa or anything related to further hiring procedure.
After all I'm still confused of the word (new hired pilots)!!!!
What does this mean?
Does it mean that we are hired already & starting the indoc class right away ?
Do we have still interviews and sim evaluation down the road?
Flying ginger & Mutt are well informed about the Company but no one is willing to explain these details yet.
And i guess these are the questions for many applicants.
It wont take too long before the holidays are over.
safe fly for everyone.:confused:

ok, i have one thing to say. This is a rumour network and as such i have never hidden behind my username - as most people who know me will confirm.

As my lovely contract states, you cannot tell untruths or mis-represent the company in any way, i'm sure you get the picture. I am a little candid shall we say in my responses here as i do not know who y'all are. As such i try to be hilarious (which never works!!) or try to say things as they are without being rude. So here goes.....................

Once upon a time, in a land far, far away.............a man with ginger hair went into the company office to find out a little information about how people were recruited into the said company. After wondering the corridors of power for an hour or so it suddenly struck the ginger haired one.........

"No one knows" he cried..........."no one cares" echoed around the dredded offices of power. Distraught with failure he decided to go through the ordeal of getting crew transport back to the hotel............

Tune into next weeks exciting adventure, and find out how many other hotels transport tried to take the intrepid explorer to before settling on the right one!!

Please remember to Fly Ginger:}

Embraer
 

Who is flying the Embraer at NAS? if so, is it revenue flights or proven run?

Corrected due to ref by FlyGinger....... :):)

Mutt

Mutt, you are loosing your touch!! EMB flown by a motley crew from around the world, and on revenue flights.

For now, anyway.

It will be much more interesting to see who is flying it when the contracts are up for renewal:oh:

My bet's on Filipinos

My bet, they'll park em up em again...

.... next to the Airbus as the pilots leave in their droves when their 35/31 contract expires!

My bet is by Americans, I know of at least 4-5 of them that have applied. more in the wings waiting.

for now maybe.........

NAS
 

NEW JOINERS BEWARE

Contract Pilot

STORM not paid AGAIN by NAS, so contrcat crew NOT PAID. this twice in past few months.

PARC crew only paid in last day, NAS not pay PARC also


If you come direct.
Probabtion mean NO LEAVE. It 4 months and only training pay. NO ALLOWANCE.

Rotation only start once ALL training finished. can be 6 months. NO TIME OFF, NO ALLOWANCES.

Recurent train in own time also fly home. trainig can take 10 day each 6 month

All

Fight for expenses claim, as they not being sign.

Some home flights not being paid for. So pay yourself and try to claim back.

Roster
You on standby all time. No schedule or program day off.

Enginering

Very bad. Not done, cause 2 x double beeld faile.

Document
NAS near top of Airbus Instrie BLACKLIST as not issue OEB to crew, or tell when change in FCOM.

Taining
not exist, pilot not know about aircrfat.

NAS HAVE BIG PROBLEM IN NEXT FEW MONTH, STAY AWAY

NAScrew

I suspect that you don't work for NAS and you have a chip on your shoulder of some kind. No one with such a poor command of English would be allowed anywhere near a Flight Deck!!!

Mister Geezer, there are a lot of people in the ME who arent native English speakers, so rather than attack the poster, why dont you comment on the issues mentioned?

Mutt

In response to NAScrew's post; Can anyone backup his claims about NAS not paying and engineering being unsafe?

I'm seriously considering this job flying the 190, but getting a little spooked by his comments.

Just looking for other people's experience with this company.

Thank you

Does NAS offer Captains upgrade to its FOs??Incase they do how long does it take??

Nas never failed to pay my salary and it is always on time.

Airplanes are brand new and still under manufacturer's warranty.

Maintenance are all very experienced.

This is the best job I ever had because of the life style it provides as
Iam on 35/31.

We do not have the horrible long night flights that starts at midnight
and finishes midday.

It took me 3 months to get clear on line, but after that I had
31 days off after every 35 days of work.

Tarik,

Thank you for the info.

The jungle jet might be new....................

It might be covered by the manufac. warranty

Maint. might be professional..............

Some airbuses might not be as new as they once were

You might get paid on time................

You might have to sit in the office all day get to get a ticket home

I might be an idiot..................

Might...........great word, isn't it!!:E

Can someone plz.tell me if NAS upgrades its FOs to Captains and if so what is the time period??

Upgrade
 

All middle east airlines (with no exception) upgrade their FO's based on who you know, nationality, etc. Forget seniority and/or performance. Personal relationship is a key in the middle east.

Think twice before you jump ship.

In my humble opinion, i would ask around in the company as to how many people have been upgraded in the last few years..............

Might take you a while:E

do they provide accomodation in Expat compounds for the family??

Anyone have experience dealing with FlightCrew Solutions? I'm attempting to get a contract with NAS through them, but something seems a little off with their recruiters.

Thank you

LoserInLife,

PM me or better (as I often forget to check my PMs...) shoot me an email. I'm interested to hear your experiences with them. I want to hear if they're similar to mine...

Bad-Andy

Fly Ginger, in their defense, I think they only started operating within the last year. So not much time to upgrade anyone.

No, as a company they have been flying for three years (kayala), the loco side is newer, but the planned expansion plans mean that whatever you are told as an FO, they will always take DEC's. Clear financial sense. I am a good few years away yet so as not to worry too much, but it will shape my decision eventually.

EMB might be a little different in a while, but again, DEC's will trump any FO here for a good while yet.

The real spanner in the works is that the company has stated that it will not even consider upgrades in the future unless you are on a full time contract. Most of the expats work here for the salary and the time off. Nothing more. To me that shows the direction the company is now taking.

Please forgive me for my personal interpretation of the situation, i would like to stand correted, however, i 'm not so sure that i will.

Now then.................Fly Ginger:hmm:

Forgot about the other side of the flying. You are correct.