You're telling me 6 (six) years time to upgrade between SO and FO? I certainly hope not.

from F/O to CPT.

Well at least while you wait, you make some time on good aircraft. You can go anywhere with that if you would so require. Captaincy in 6 years is not that bad, but I do have to say that alot of you guys are very very negative about the place so I am very weary.

Sorry if I've missed this but what is the end of service gratuity?

Guys, an airline is a airline, all have bull$hit, and QR is no different. The problem here is Doha not QR , the locals(rude, arrogant and ignorant) expensive, boring, ugly,hot,humid,no green, the airport is a logistical nightmare. If I had the option of living anyplace else in the world including somalia, and flying for QR, the it would make the job bearable.

-Well between Somalia( a collapsing state) and Qatar...for the time being,i think i would sill prefer..Qatar..at least more peaceful.:uhoh:

-End of service gratuity: 3 weeks of your last basic salary/year of service.
It becomes 4 weeks after 5 years of service.

For me exactly the oposite. The only problem is Qatar Airways. Living in Qatar if you have a family is not problem. As a single guys yes.It's a nightmare.

Qatar Airways sucks big time.Only if you taste u can believe what i am saying,and coming from US is even harder.

I would advise you to join Abu Dhabi National Airline. A lot better company to work for and many places to go and see around UAE and OMAN.

Enjoy ur Middle east ride!

Just a word of warning. About 20 FOs recruited for the 777 were changed, having moved here, to the 320. If you are coming over for the promise of a new type you might want to consider that the company has the right to change your type at any point. Just a heads up.

But how much time is there between starting as a SO-fast track and becoming a FO.
Or does it depend on experience?:confused:

Why don't you ask the company! No one knows the answer to this because the program is still in its infancy and they haven't even hired any SO's for the new Fast track program:E

Question: Is the "per hour flying rate" for EVERY hour flown / month? Or is this an overtime payment (eg hours above just above 75 hrs / month etc)?

Trying to ascertain what the total actual monthly payment would be.

Cheers.;)

P2T2.
Yes it is for every hours..daytime,nightime... (schedule block time).
Overtime payment(like 320 special allowance, day off down the route payment...) has been taken away long time ago for cockpit crew..nothing but a old souvenir for us..

about to join as a senior position (on ground) with QR

Whats the free company accommodation like (2 bedroomed appartment), and in what area are the free appts in?

Seems an excellent company from my dealings so far.

Doha looks good too and looking forward to joining.

SS

jaarrgh,

Thanks for the warning. Everyone should read your warning and INSIST on getting the aircraft type in writing with no strings attached - or just don't go... If they won't agree, don't move. The labor shortage will hit the ME hard in the coming years as the legacies return to hiring mode and experienced pilots stay where they are...

We call that BAIT and SWITCH where I come from. Even after moving I would still probably leave as a result of that switch.

School fees
 

I was looking at the "New" School fees in Doha and I noticed an huge hike. More than 50.000 qr per year for 1 kid in primary school.
I am just asking if is this the standard rate in Doha.
Confirm the Qr allowance(50k ) is just for 1 kid ?
Tks but I am quite uncomfortable to bring my family overe here.:{

"I was looking at the "New" School fees in Doha and I noticed an huge hike. More than 50.000 qr per year for 1 kid in primary school."

The Qr allowance barely covers the fees for 1,5 kids.

" there's not enough decent schools for the growing population and the schools being a business, supply and demand means that the school fee's are going up every year!"

Here school is only a business. And you will hardly find a good school with good teachers. :mad:

Can someone could remind me the name of the american (from texan??? and ex Zoom) guy from HR, who does interviews?? thanks

schooling
 

Tks Captain,
but most school fees are higher then the allowance and you cannot even cover 1 kid .
ie: Compass Int. or I.S.L, ...... .

If anyone has information on the training bond for new recruits, it would be much appreciated.

For how much and for how long are you tied in for, and if you left early what are the financial implications?

Thanks in advance

Little off topic, and for that I apologize. But, what is QR policy for deadhead flights? Are you paid for the full flight time is half pay, etc...Is it any different for cargo vs pax flights? Lastly, whats life like on the A300 frieghters? Specifically, do you spend a lot of your days off out of Doha? Thank you

You only get paid for "productive" Duty in QR!(schedule block time: when you operate the flight.)
All the rest:STBY,Deadheading,Sim, Ground time spent on board the A/C.. are UNPAID Duty!

unumber

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Are you paid for the full flight time is half pay, etc

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Deadheading is 100% free, no pay whatsoever.
SIM is paid in regular flight pay for time in the box.
as for the rest, you will only get paid when you are on duty operational crew

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Is it any different for cargo vs pax flights?

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It does not matter what fleet you fly or what the commercial operation of your aircraft is, we all get the same pay package.

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do you spend a lot of your days off out of Doha?

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On occasion we get "Days OFF' down route, these days are subtracted from the company standard of 8 days off per month. meaning, if you had 3 days off down route this month then you will be left with only 5 days off in Doha, not so good for a family man, it does not happen that often… but it does happen

poisoned by compromise
Krunch

Your SIM is Unpaid duty..unless you are "standing" for somebody else.

Invite some of you ladies/gents to have a look at the "interesting" thread posted by JCUERVO in the Cabin Crew Forum section entitled:" Fire at Qatar Airways C.C. accomodations.."..!!
So i guess autorities would have prefer the crew to stay inside the building and being intoxicated rather than ""offend"" :ugh: the neighbourhood...!!
Is this not a criminal ACT??!!
5 stars treatment..all you need to known...:uhoh:

Hi all

Do you know if they are recruiting for the A300-600 cargo fleet and, if they are, whats the average block hours per month?

Happy landings

Interview
 

I know this has been covered in this thread before, but I understand there has been some changes in recruitment,can anybody advise on what to expect in the interview with regard to questions or what to brush up on.

the MOU is expiring in march 2011 itself........and there are no pass-outs from that institute....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolley es:

question
 

question Mr perfect how many qatari friends do u have ??? :D

Please advice
 

Hi guys,

Thinking of moving the family to Doha and joining QR. I have 3 kids and 5000hrs. Please advice. Thanks all.:hmm:

airlove
 

Dear ALL I am invited for 2 days Interview programme . Please , advice me what is waiting for me , what is the interview programme , What should I study ?

Thanks to all

Hi Guys,
Just a quick one concerning the medical. I have read the whole thread/searched the forum to no avail. Assuming you get the job offer, am I right in believing that you do your medical once in Qatar? What would happen if you failed it then?
Reason I ask is because a mate of mine recently passed the EK interview only to be told his eyes were not upto Ek's ''standards''.
Do
1) QR cover your eyes in the medical insurance?
2) they carry out any tests for the eyes other than the basic reading sentences, distant vision and colour tests?

Thanks for your time/answers.

QR
 

There Italian TRE who use to give exams for initial interview in advance while he was in team and doing interviews in Italy .

His name is very famues sure you can find it and get in contact with him .

leo79
 

You have to do two medicals when you arrive in Qatar. One for the Qatar Civil Aviation Authority (QCAA), the other for the issue of your residence permit. Fail either one and you will not be able to work for QR.

The QCAA initial medical exam is like the JAA initial. The eye tests are very thorough; much more than just reading a chart with letters on it and doing the colour blindness test.

Our medical insurance covers all parts of the body apart from dental care.

linerider
 

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
Happy landings.

QCAR 1.255d
 

From Google........ JAR AMD 14 was released in July. This from QCAR AMD 09 !!! It won't be any different though.

(d) An operator shall ensure that in-flight re-planning procedures for calculating
usable fuel required when a flight has to proceed along a route or to a
destination aerodrome other than originally planned includes:
1. trip fuel for the remainder of the flight; and
2. reserve fuel consisting of:
(i) contingency fuel; and
(ii) alternate fuel, if a destination alternate aerodrome is required (this
does not preclude selection of the departure aerodrome as the
destination alternate aerodrome); and
(iii) final reserve fuel; and
(iv) additional fuel, if required by the type of operation (e.g. ETOPS);
and
3. extra fuel if required by the commander.

upcoming interview
 

good day all,

i've gone through the 100's of pages here in this forum trying to gleen any info i can concerning the technical test and interview content. thought i'd try to ask directly.

i have an interview next month and would like to get a heads up as to what sort of specifics i should be reviewing for the tech exam and what sort of questions the interview entails.

i've been studying the "ace" book as well as some jar ops stuff but the pile is huge and some specifics would be great. appreciate any responses. cheers

how is capt interview looks like?
 

Hi do you know how is the capt interview looks like?regarding technical exam,technical question during the interview?any group section?
Thank you
James

I'm sure you've heard it many times before, but you encounter difficult people in all walks of life.

One thing I try to keep in mind, especially as an expat, we are often subjected to treatment here which is seen as harsh or unfair. It can really get your morale down. With that you can begin to forget that you're still in a career that you dreamed of as a child, you're still in a job that many in the World would love to do but perhaps didn't get the same opportunities as you.

I often feel like the flight deck is my little escape. I can either try to create a good friendly environment and enjoy doing the job I love, or I can be miserable and grumpy at work, just like I am in Doha. It's my choice.

Regarding instructors here at QR. Your observations are correct. Next time you come across one of our close minded instructor colleagues, give him this beauty to ponder, "flexible is too rigid for aviation, one has to be fluid."

Retard: If all trainers are wrong in your opinion, it would seem you are the issue. Assess yourself before posting such comments. pathetic..

Yes, most our instructors leave allot to be desired. why ? you might ask.

in my best evaluation of this downward trend over the years is; In many ways the airline actually makes life harder for you if your an instructor. The extra pay does not equal what a normal line pilot would make, the extra big perk is that you have a very limited control of your roster, but still left with nothing more than short sector days or if synthetic training device qualified, then you'll spend 89% of your time in the box of horrors. all just to be treated like the fault of all the problems within the airline, not only by colleges but also by higher management. So, Having said that. All the capable experienced guys use better judgment and fly the line as a normal pilot and do not wish to ruin their lives getting involved with training in this airline. That leaves us with the macho men space shuttle astronauts who think they are gods gift to aviation and feel they all have been hand picked for the role, but in fact they are whats left over in the bottom of the barrel, and they don't even know it. The only thing I do is laugh at their stupidity, because there is nothing else funny about it.

thats the way i see it from my vantage point

Another pearl of wisdom:

Pilot vacating the runway 34 DOH via HST C at 50 knots ground speed
Instructor shout : "SPEED!!"

Pilot To the instructor: " but you known the max speed for a HST is 60 kts..well thats the purpose of a HST...so why did you shout "SPEED"..!

Instructor: "Well actually i don't known the max speed for a HST..":eek: