to wingmaaan, sounds like you've been working in every corner of this world...well its gonna be good for you to join QR...so..later you know there is another way to humiliate people in other side of the world..all the best...at least you've been warn.:ok:
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I have had a memorable experience with QR. I left a perfectly healthy airline to Join QR on an offer of appointment as a PIC on the 777. I wrapped up my house and got my kids out of school when BANG! three days before leaving I get an email that my fleet is changed to the A320!! I dont think this would happen in any other airline in the world! I have gone back to begging my previous employer to hire me and I think this is downright UNPROFESSIONAL. Either you dont offer, and well if you do, honor your word! My previous employer is now hiring me as a line captain when I left as a TRI. I dont think QR will attract good pilots if they stick to this, its just unfortunate that today there are no jobs globally so people are keeping up with such ways.
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Well what did you expect?
You where probably flying a 737 back home, you think you can come here and fly the 777 which I agree is a great offer. But you must admit that these offers are almost too good to be true. So what happened to you is a shame, but it is exactly what would happen to me when I joined Jet Airways on the A330 coming from 320. At least you got your job back! |
I resigned from my job after I got their offer and its not that the are not hiring.....unlike Jet Airways thats downsizing.
Doesent matter what I was flying shnieder what matters is that they went back on a written offer of appointment in the most unceremonious manner and thats an indication of how things function down there. wouldnt look at them now even if they offered the shuttle. |
Whilst you might think that you're heading for a great new job in a different part of the world... think twice; in fact, think thrice!
Great recruitment adverts, and, in fact, having travelled with QR... great service, but... if you're a budding employee... take my advice and go elsewhere! I'm not having a 'dig' at expats... they do a great job; it's the locals that you have to considder! Management expertise... think again! Lifestyle... if you want to end up gridlocked whilst travelling a couple of miles out to supper in the evening; plan on a couple of hours each way! Sometimes you can't even exit the car park! You're gonna be living adjacent to a Mosque... every street corner has one; morning prayers go out on loudspeakers at 4.00am! Make sure your A/C is blowing MAX... it will drown-out the prayer call! Not dissimilar to having a vacuum cleaner running all night next to your bed! But hey... you'll get used to it! Someone will eventually scrape the paintwork of your car; either within your compound or in a car park; the culprit will dissapear, leaving you with having to explain to the police as to why your car failed the equivalent to the MOT! Unless your partner can find some sort of a job... she'll get bored; especially without a second car to go shopping! If you're single; make sure you have a gang of good mates... you'll need them! Patience... you must have tons, acres, hectares, square miles/kilometers; for otherwise you'll tear your hair out! Learn to drive like an Arab! Don't do 'road rage'... you'll definately lose! If you like grass and trees... don't go there! Or... like me... resign; quit; give in; lose the plot... it's much easier! TCF |
They changed my fleet too!! Its amazing, im glad they dont have any commuters......anyways, its sad to see an opportunity get squandered cause i believe the airline has a future if they get it right. Only desperate guys will end up joining such an airline and thats going to screw things up anyways. I have crawled back to where i came from and Im :O
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Guys you forget the basics.....U will have a job and it might be more secure than any job here in the US.....United first year $21 per hour...(furloughs of 10 year seniority)!:}...Come to chicago to see scratches everywhere on your car.....Better to be at a place where everything is tax free and get at least something in your pocket every day than having to pay credit cards and the government every single day....Not to mention medicare , schools, loans and bills....PPL with 10 years of seniority loose their jobs so u think the heat or a prayer will stop them to get a job???Some people might like it , its different lifestyle....If you come from Europe thats the way they drive also there ;).....Its just the US with 55 miles on highway...:\.....
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Well noone can beat my 6 on 1 off for 3 weeks and $3200 a month with nothing covered as CA :\...I can take a scratch on my car over that or somebody praying at 4am....
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praying at 4am...
You haven't been there. If you had, you wouldn't be so cavalier. |
No disrespect but it's 3:20 am:oh:
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Big neon glitter, if you dont like QR please leave. The problem was lack of planning and communication. Even though im sorry for the guys whos offers were switched, they did the right thing. These guys were switched over to the 320 so 320 guys can transfer over to the 777. As far as i heard 16 captains coming to 320 and 16 transfers from 320 to 777.
As far as the housing goes yes thatsa complete disaster, these guys at least should be offer the money instead of the flat. |
Fubaliera you got it wrong. The right thing would have been to not offer the 777 in the first place. But once a guy has packed his stuff, left a good job and landed up in Doha, how can they change his fleet??? This would be upheld in any court in any free country in the world, so please dont say thats right because its NOT.
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Ok back to the subject :\ anybody knows when they will post fo positions again and how many they will need?
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Housing
Well it looks like they are giving the option to the new DECs between flat and housing allowance.
Speeking of housing allowance, we were supposed to hear some bad news in June.....well it's June still no news...is it no news good news or no news bad news?? Anyone knows if there will be a change or just status quo? |
QR Minima
Hello mates,
I was wondering if anyone could inform me about QR recrutment. I just receive an email for the HR departement with an 8 pages application form, because one of my friend works at QR and spoke to them for me. But I am not sure they will consider my application because I don't have 500hrs jet time yet. My profile is 2500TT 150Jet, with 1100hrs on ATR above 20tones, with full ATPL. I did apply as FO and 2nd Officer, but for the 2nd officer I am very close to turning 29 (july). Do you think they will still call me for an interview? |
Joining Qatar Airways -all you need to know about it
Has any one been through the recent interview process? If so, could you give any information about the questions asked in the tech quiz.
tks |
Key Word is respect seniority
Still amazed by people stating how could they switch offer at the last minute, others veterants of the so called sandpit calling this place a " **** hole " while in the meantime they work here earn money and live here with their family, children go to school......:=
Didn't your mam's told never bite the hand that feeds you for new hire it is always start : I left a nice job, a nice city, which is your hometown or what so ever a green grass, a nice pay and one morning I decided to drop all this nice things and come down the sandpit in the **** hole what a pathetic story who's gonna beleive it. in the case of placement on which fleet for DEC let me assure you that any second officer who made it trough QR training is safer and fly better than any DEC no matter what is his previous experience I wonder if QR start giving interviews as the same level as for command upgrade how many DEC will survive my personnel opinion 0% The hiring process right now is kind of filling the blank recruiting on top of the head, talent people who managed to to go through all the **** here. Please respect senior pilot on the other fleets A320 moving to A330 or B777 A330 moving to B777 or A340 And New hire they have to follow a standard progression starting in the order C300, C605, A300/ A320, A330, B777/A340. in this region of the world at least you must know that you gonna work in the desert not in L.A before your leave home you land in this place with two buckets one for the gold and the other one for problems the first one you managed to fill first here you go back home, enjoying the so called civilized world probably bracing for credit crunch economical down turn. Reminber always fly safe and high Thr Mct, |
Joke of the month.
From THR MCT:
"in the case of placement on which fleet for DEC let me assure you that any second officer who made it trough QR training is safer :rolleyes: and fly better than any DEC no matter what is his previous experience I wonder if QR start giving interviews as the same level as for command upgrade how many DEC will survive my personnel opinion 0%." Hahahahahahahahaaha. :ugh: Thick as two short planks. Don't worry I shall Reminber. |
To a Wannabe
to big joke no...
A least this is the only way to keep a bunch of Wannabee like you to jump on others pilots seniority from outside like your friends ex CPT & SVpFO isn't it:} |
TM
Nice one. They make it through the extensive QR training to demonstrate their extensive command of the English language like yourself. Wannabe? I am, and I have been flying for longer than you have been alive; judging by your puerile remarks. :E
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J Noke
English is my forth language I assume it is your first, I wonder how many do you speak? ENNNNglish only is the answer :ugh: how about spanish probably none may be French zero AS WELL OR Italian double zero I have been flying longuer then you think, just for your info the school I graduate from you cann't even seat the entrance exams What is your education level barely finished high school I presume may be not even a diploma perhaps a certificate. the day you get a university degree we can talk for the timebeing enjoy flying:{ T.M |
school
Universety education in QR is not importatnt as we can see . Majority of managers in QR has no education at all . You need to know only how to say "YES SIR " to CEO and you become mananger and the day you say "NO SIR"you are not a mananger any more . Avrige 1-2 y till you say NO first time .
Qatar Airways is an airline run by "i am scared" system and it works good for only 1 person who is in charge of it . Why cabin crew behave as they do ? ( i am scared to be reported ) Why pilots do strange things (i am scared to be called to office if i use brain so better dont ) Why manangers scared to change anything ? (scared to be removed from managment) Who survive in system like that ? S.S.S ,R.N, P.M ,H.F,Snake..... all "strong people" Its better to take food from pilots and give them Rayan water. Cool but you know that a pilot who do 30-50 sectors /month can save or spend airline money depends if he is happy or not and since we have 90% unhappy pilots you figure it out what they do . Happy guyz are one which left QR and now smille from out . I agree with MZFW001 increase cost to increase respect . $ can talk sometimes |
Thr Idle
Oh dear. Seem to have touched a nerve. Most of your assumptions are quite wide of the mark. Education, languages etc. Keep dreaming though. :rolleyes:
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Quote:
"in the case of placement on which fleet for DEC let me assure you that any second officer who made it trough QR training is safer :rolleyes: and fly better than any DEC no matter what is his previous experience I wonder if QR start giving interviews as the same level as for command upgrade how many DEC will survive my personnel opinion 0%." Even if I agree that the screening process for DEC must be changed, that statement made my day as well, very funny!:D |
Hey guys/girls, I don’t post on here much – I’m not a pilot, and far from an expert about what goes on in the ultra-pointy end – but I work in the industry and I'm interested in hearing a range of views about what’s going around the traps in our business. I think the rough-n-tumble of vigorous debate is a very good thing, but it really pis$$es me off when posters start picking on someone else’s grammar/spelling - especially when it’s obvious that that person isn’t a native English speaker. How many English speakers can articulate a coherent argument in another language? I certainly couldn’t. It’s not just this thread; so many on pprune seem to quickly degenerate into personal attacks. I reckon it’s a cheap shot. Whether you agree with someone else’s views or not; argue the substance not the presentation. My two cents worth anyway....
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If your chosen profession requires you to be fluent in spoken English you demean yourself, as well as the airline you represent, attempting to argue a point in less than elementary English.;)
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Mate, I’m not trying to argue that speaking English isn’t important for a professional pilot. My point was that there is a difference between being able to read/write/speak English sufficiently well to do your job vs. passing an Oxford University English exam. It just seems to me that too often on pprune, when people feel they can’t adequately argue their point, they resort to attacking someone else’s grammar/spelling. And very often (in my limited observation) that person is someone who doesn’t speak English as their first language. I’m going to stop this now; I never meant to start a big argument – just wanted to point out something that pished me off. Get into it boys...
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waste of webspace!
What a totally useless discussion you guys are pursuing here! Boy oh boy, scheduling is not working you hard enough if this is what you elect to spend your little free time on!
Get on with it, please, and stop this tread hijack! More intelligent discussions are being held at kindergarten! STOP----Thread Hijack ABORT --STOP I kind of liked that remark about the DEC screening. It is absolutely true that, in case the DEC guys would be put through the same ruthless screening and training process than the one our upgrade candidates have to go through, at leas 50% , if not more, of the selected DECs would fail! Make no mistake, those guys are expected to know everything, fly like Chuck Yeager, have command abilities from day number 1 etc etc etc. I have seen it lately on several occasions. I joined as a DEC but I have to admit that I would have needed lots and lots of studying to make it through those interviews! So DEC brothers, be aware of this fact next time you sit in your B777 or A330 cockpit. You have been EXTREMELY lucky and many of you know this! Those poor fellas in their A320s who just passed their upgrades, deserved that seat probably more than you do! |
Mr Troph
Must agree with most of your points. I was also a DEC, but don't sell yourself down the river. We all (most of us) had to make the grade at sometime or other. :ok:
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CSD&CS
Some of CSD&CS they will get upgrade to S/o.
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'Some of CSD&CS they will get upgrade to S/o'
you're joking right? :} |
Captain upgrade today in Qr takes around 5+... years...
Yes they still receiving A/C.. : A-320 § B777. |
What about suggestions for the interview?
I mean, any book title......dedicated website or something else to getting well prepared? I have just my "ACE the technical pilot interview".....:eek: |
EPR SET
" is it true that there is a time limit to re-enter ayn khalid at night?"
This is applicable only to pilot's wife. :} :E |
Hiring Fo's?? I don't see any job listing at the site....can anyone give us some answers on when they will hire again and some interview info would be nice?:D
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time limit only applied fo cabin crew accomodation, not for cockpit crew accomodation ..(not yet..:})!.
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EPR SET
The Ain Khalid Gate was named as: Ghetto, Disneyland,Fantasy Island and so on. After that I will name it "Alcatraz Island" (San Francisco Bay).:}
"is it true that there is a time limit to re-enter ayn khalid at night?" I can't believe this is a serious question! := Well! As loc22550 said: "not yet..." :} |
yes..maybe it will be part of the so called new housing policy:\(everything possible in this airline)...supposed to be released in june..2009.. i guess...??oops we are the 1st of july today...:eek:
Blascksteel;don´t blame EPR for his relevant question..:i can understand you known.. lots of think/rules in this kindergarten (QR) are difficult to believe from outside. |
ain khaled
Its Also Called Al Caliente
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anybody care to share some kind of roster???
I am thinking of applying but am wondering if it would be possible to commute back to europe once in a while? :} |
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