Saudi Aramco - all you need to know about it (threads merged)
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The dispatcher jobs have been 100% nationalized, I think unless you are a Saudi, you have little chance of employment.
Check out www.jobsataramco.com for available jobs.
Check out www.jobsataramco.com for available jobs.
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Bait and Switch
Contract fixed wing pilots at Aramco have been informed by the Chief Pilot that the evaluation period of contract pilots during which they will be considered for permanent employment will "fluctuate". That means that the one year evaluation period the contractors were initially lead to expect has been extended to an indefinite period. The low price of oil and company-wide hiring and budget cuts are blamed for this.
As someone noted above, life as an Aramco contractor is significantly different from that of a permanent employee. If you see an ad for Aramco fixed-wing pilots offering anything other than contract pay with no medical insurance, no retirement benefits, and no family housing, it is false.
Contractors are not allowed to bring their families to live in Saudi Arabia, do not have health insurance or retirement benefits, and can only obtain a temporary six month multi-entry visa that requires leaving the country once every 30 days. The contract does provide for 3 weeks off every 10 weeks, but there is no pay during this period beyond a travel stipend.
FYI.
As someone noted above, life as an Aramco contractor is significantly different from that of a permanent employee. If you see an ad for Aramco fixed-wing pilots offering anything other than contract pay with no medical insurance, no retirement benefits, and no family housing, it is false.
Contractors are not allowed to bring their families to live in Saudi Arabia, do not have health insurance or retirement benefits, and can only obtain a temporary six month multi-entry visa that requires leaving the country once every 30 days. The contract does provide for 3 weeks off every 10 weeks, but there is no pay during this period beyond a travel stipend.
FYI.
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Re: Saudi Aramco F/A
Do they still hire Filipino flight attendants? All my colleagues used to work in that company. I just don't know who is the recruitment agency monitoring and hiring for flight attendants now.
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Bye Bye 660MA and 663MA
A tear has come to my eye... The last Aramco twaters are gone. Just saw 660MA and 663MA in Trade-A-Plane. Rumor has it they are headed for down under. (The interiors certainly looked better than I remembered!)
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Twin-otters gone, two Hawkers 800A- (N710A and N722A) also, but replaced by 900XPs, next go Dash-8s to be replaced by King Air 200, and ERJ 170. B737 will eventually go away, too, leaving just ERJs, King Airs, Hawkers, Gulf Streams, Air Tractors.
I believe rotor wing is hiring, don't know who to contact, though. Fixed wing not hiring yet, but maybe 2011. Flight attendants always hiring, but don't know who contractor is. I'll ask around.
To all who come to work for Saudi Aramco, don't quit whatever job you're leaving until you're sure the company is going to employ you under the terms that they agreed to. Many a pilot here has been the victim of the ol' bait and switch. Also, living in Allah's Great Litterbox is not for everyone.
I believe rotor wing is hiring, don't know who to contact, though. Fixed wing not hiring yet, but maybe 2011. Flight attendants always hiring, but don't know who contractor is. I'll ask around.
To all who come to work for Saudi Aramco, don't quit whatever job you're leaving until you're sure the company is going to employ you under the terms that they agreed to. Many a pilot here has been the victim of the ol' bait and switch. Also, living in Allah's Great Litterbox is not for everyone.
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They used to have a DC-8 and several B-737-200's which were replaced by a B767 and several B-737NGS. So that part of the fleet is pretty new.
Embraer must have offered them a sweet deal.
Embraer must have offered them a sweet deal.
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We still have 5 737NGs, and have replaced our 3 Dash 8's with 3 EMB 170's, last flight for the Dash 8 was this week. If the EMB 170 works out the plan is to replace the 737NG's with EMB 190's around 2015 when the 737's come up for D checks. Anyone have any infor regarding how well the EMB's perform at Saudia/Gulf Air?
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Info Needed
I am looking for any information about Armaco's flight department and the current opening for a crew scheduler. If anyone has any information to pass along it would be greatly appreciated. I have searched high and low for more info but the Aramco website doesn't give much. Again...any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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here ya go... good luck!!
Thank you for your response.
Here is a link to the aircraft pilot job brief. It has information about the type of aircrafts in the fleet; which includes, Five B-737-700, three Emb 170, two G550, two HS125-900, two King Air 350, one C550, two AT-802. The fleet is USA registered and therefore governed by FAA Part 91 regulation. https://sjobs.brassring.com/1033/ASP/TG/cim_jobdetail.asp?SID=^iC8oNjTe_slp_rhc_KKG0fGGKRKoo5NSbBWka aoLyX/Dmx8/XjkrBluVyQbxjdVg7HzaNIHd&jobId=621010&type=search&JobReqLang =1&recordstart=1&JobSiteId=5396&JobSiteInfo=621010_5396&GQId =0
Also, here is the link to the training captain job brief. https://sjobs.brassring.com/1033/ASP/TG/cim_jobdetail.asp?SID=^iC8oNjTe_slp_rhc_KKG0fGGKRKoo5NSbBWka aoLyX/Dmx8/XjkrBluVyQbxjdVg7HzaNIHd&jobId=606017&type=search&JobReqLang =1&recordstart=1&JobSiteId=5396&JobSiteInfo=606017_5396&GQId =0
We are not an airline, we carry employees from their home to their work locations. Each pilot averages about 400- 500 hrs depending on workloads and manning status. All of our flying is done within the country. Usually , we fly 4-7 sectors a day. Working hours vary between 5-8 hours. At the end all pilots are home with no overnight out of base.
As a training captain , you will be required and responsible to establish and train the company procedures and introduce the airplane to new pilots in the fleet. You will do all the IOE training then release them to the fleet captain who will then do the final check before release online. We are just starting this training department so it will be a chance for the new training captain to excel and be creative in establishing training procedures. Also, at a later stage, you will be part of the recurrent training where , you will travel and observe and check pilots on their recurrent.
Saudi Aramco provides employees and their families with competitive compensation and benefits. Saudi Aramco communities are designed to provide all necessary needs to make life for the employee and his family comfortable. Our communities are so diverse that it has employees from all continents. Comfortable housing within company community with free utilities. Children get free education in US curriculum schools within Aramco communities, or offer 100% reimbursement for local and boarding schools (Any type of curriculum) through the Educational Assistance Plan (EAP). Plenty of extracurricular activities for all ages. Free health care within company medical facilities form all family members. The Company also provides annual travel allowance for employee and dependants to point of origin on full-fare economy. In addition to local holidays, an employee gets 38 calendar days every year as vacation.
Here is a link to the aircraft pilot job brief. It has information about the type of aircrafts in the fleet; which includes, Five B-737-700, three Emb 170, two G550, two HS125-900, two King Air 350, one C550, two AT-802. The fleet is USA registered and therefore governed by FAA Part 91 regulation. https://sjobs.brassring.com/1033/ASP/TG/cim_jobdetail.asp?SID=^iC8oNjTe_slp_rhc_KKG0fGGKRKoo5NSbBWka aoLyX/Dmx8/XjkrBluVyQbxjdVg7HzaNIHd&jobId=621010&type=search&JobReqLang =1&recordstart=1&JobSiteId=5396&JobSiteInfo=621010_5396&GQId =0
Also, here is the link to the training captain job brief. https://sjobs.brassring.com/1033/ASP/TG/cim_jobdetail.asp?SID=^iC8oNjTe_slp_rhc_KKG0fGGKRKoo5NSbBWka aoLyX/Dmx8/XjkrBluVyQbxjdVg7HzaNIHd&jobId=606017&type=search&JobReqLang =1&recordstart=1&JobSiteId=5396&JobSiteInfo=606017_5396&GQId =0
We are not an airline, we carry employees from their home to their work locations. Each pilot averages about 400- 500 hrs depending on workloads and manning status. All of our flying is done within the country. Usually , we fly 4-7 sectors a day. Working hours vary between 5-8 hours. At the end all pilots are home with no overnight out of base.
As a training captain , you will be required and responsible to establish and train the company procedures and introduce the airplane to new pilots in the fleet. You will do all the IOE training then release them to the fleet captain who will then do the final check before release online. We are just starting this training department so it will be a chance for the new training captain to excel and be creative in establishing training procedures. Also, at a later stage, you will be part of the recurrent training where , you will travel and observe and check pilots on their recurrent.
Saudi Aramco provides employees and their families with competitive compensation and benefits. Saudi Aramco communities are designed to provide all necessary needs to make life for the employee and his family comfortable. Our communities are so diverse that it has employees from all continents. Comfortable housing within company community with free utilities. Children get free education in US curriculum schools within Aramco communities, or offer 100% reimbursement for local and boarding schools (Any type of curriculum) through the Educational Assistance Plan (EAP). Plenty of extracurricular activities for all ages. Free health care within company medical facilities form all family members. The Company also provides annual travel allowance for employee and dependants to point of origin on full-fare economy. In addition to local holidays, an employee gets 38 calendar days every year as vacation.
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If you have a strong tolerance for bullshiite a person could in theory make a lot of money at aramco, just be sure to get it in writing up front, and personally I would refuse a contractor position. If you have athsma dont even think about it. The dust gets in absolutely everything. Even the food and water.
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I've been lurking for a while and joined today because this seems to be the best resource for specific information about the jobs Aramco offers. I'm wondering if someone working there now could give me an idea if it's worth applying. I'm a career military aviator with over 4,000 hours, most of them in the C-130. I also have instructor time in the E.26 Tamiz (T-35 Pillan) and flew the C-26 (SA-227DC) and T-1A (Mitsubishi Diamond). I'm typed in the Herk, C-26 and T-1A, but my time and currency are mainly in the C-130.
I'm somewhat familiar with the region from my many deployments. In fact, I'm sitting in a military compound right now flying Herks from an "undisclosed location" in the ME. We've also spent time in Turkey, and I swear the Aramco housing pictures looked exactly like Incirlik base housing before they renovated it in 2007. The wife's not opposed to the idea of trying out the Aramco lifestyle.
I know the ATP is mandatory and will likely be getting a 737 type from someplace like Higher Power in Dallas, but there's no way I'm going to meet the recency/currency levels most people are talking about here for any of Aramco's planes. Does it seem like I'll have a shot with Aramco with my flying experience?
Also, if any current or recent pilots are willing/able to share salary&benefit info beyond what the company discloses, I'd love to hear it. From what I've been able to find online and some folks here with SA experience, I've heard everything from "they pay for every expense" to "you pay for everything yourself." I'm sure the truth is somewhere in between.
Thanks for the time!
I'm somewhat familiar with the region from my many deployments. In fact, I'm sitting in a military compound right now flying Herks from an "undisclosed location" in the ME. We've also spent time in Turkey, and I swear the Aramco housing pictures looked exactly like Incirlik base housing before they renovated it in 2007. The wife's not opposed to the idea of trying out the Aramco lifestyle.
I know the ATP is mandatory and will likely be getting a 737 type from someplace like Higher Power in Dallas, but there's no way I'm going to meet the recency/currency levels most people are talking about here for any of Aramco's planes. Does it seem like I'll have a shot with Aramco with my flying experience?
Also, if any current or recent pilots are willing/able to share salary&benefit info beyond what the company discloses, I'd love to hear it. From what I've been able to find online and some folks here with SA experience, I've heard everything from "they pay for every expense" to "you pay for everything yourself." I'm sure the truth is somewhere in between.
Thanks for the time!
