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Bahrain, Egypt, UAE & Saudi Arabia cut diplomatic ties with Qatar. Qatar aircraft ban

Old 13th Aug 2017, 15:25
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"The EK folks risk fines and prison if they comment on the QR situation so I don't think we will hear much from them:

UAE: Social media users face jail for Qatar sympathy | UAE News | Al Jazeera"]
Perhaps one of the reasons the initial demands included shutting Al Zazeera down...
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 16:41
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Looks like this is the new temporary airway through the Bahrain FIR to get to Doha:

G0553/17 NOTAMN
Q) OBBB/QARCS/I/NBO/E/000/999/2515N05218E040
A) OBBB B) 1708070000 C) 1711062359 EST
E) ESTABLISHMENT OF A TEMPO RNAV1 ATS ROUTE T665 FM OVONA DCT BOVIP
DCT DOH. AIRSPACE CLASS A AND CLASS C. LOWER/UPPER LIMITS 4500FT TO
FL220. INBOUND FOR QATAR REGISTERED AIRCRAFT ARRIVING QATAR
AERODROMES.
Also, this routing through the UAE FIR:

A1065/17 - TEMPO RNAV5 ATS RTE T665 ESTABLISHED FM DAPER(254522N 0545731E) DCT
ITMUS(252322N 0535429E) DCT OVONA(252443N 0524739E) AIRSPACE CLASS
A,FOR WB QATAR REGISTERED ACFT INBD TO THE STATE OF QATAR. FL220 - FL300, H24,
07 AUG 00:00 2017 UNTIL 06 NOV 23:59 2017 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 31 JUL 08:20 2017
Don't know how I missed it earlier.
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 17:11
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The poor souls in Muscat FIR are being run ragged with the QTR traffic coming up and over and down. Maybe the current round of talks going on with ICAO will open up more routes and ease the pressure.
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 22:25
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
Here's the news blurb from a few days ago:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.ffea1ef3197a

Anybody got the actual Notams on the newly opened airspace? I looked but could only find the June stuff like:



The EK folks risk fines and prison if they comment on the QR situation so I don't think we will hear much from them:

UAE: Social media users face jail for Qatar sympathy | UAE News | Al Jazeera
Whoa! That's pretty draconian!
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 03:07
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Might have this put on t-shirts and hand them out to newbies
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 08:32
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Gents, again

Be careful, its easy to get into jail, but difficult to get out
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 14:34
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Are vpn also formally outlawed?
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 15:03
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Don't know about Qatar, here's one view of VPN use in the UAE:

Don't use a VPN in United Arab Emirates – unless you wanna risk jail and a $545,000 fine

Arab monarchy tries to slam door on privacy tools

By Iain Thomson in San Francisco 28 Jul 2016 at 20:54

A royal edict from the president of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) may have effectively made it illegal for anyone in the country to use a VPN or secure proxy service.

Those caught could face jail time and fines of between 500,000 and 2,000,000 UAE dirham (US$136,130 and $544,521). The change was announced this week by the UAE President His Highness Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan in a proclamation that amended federal laws.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/0...ace_544k_fine/
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 16:35
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https://thebestvpn.com/are-vpns-lega...egal-section-Q

I don't know how accurate this site is. It is extensive and is correct about the countries which do ban them, but it seems to be perfectly legal to use a VPN in Qatar, which makes sense as I know plenty who do and have had no problems whatsoever.
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 16:57
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Originally Posted by edi_local
https://thebestvpn.com/are-vpns-lega...egal-section-Q

I don't know how accurate this site is. It is extensive and is correct about the countries which do ban them, but it seems to be perfectly legal to use a VPN in Qatar, which makes sense as I know plenty who do and have had no problems whatsoever.
There's not so much a defined line between what's legal and not legal in dictatorships. It's more what the ruling regime decide when they want. Not trying to scare you, just saying. Be cautious in everything you do as 'legal' is not the same as in your home country, a VPN site is the best place to get your info. Ask your local police station what you are and are not allowed to do.
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Ask your local police station what you are and are not allowed to do.
Good luck with that one.
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By the way, no sign that Bahrain, Egypt, UAE and Saudi Arabia are willing to put their money where their mouth is. Cutting off Qatar itself doesn't cost them much (ignoring those who sold food to Qatar, presumably now out of business or smuggling), but if they follow the principle they should surely boycott Qatar's assets abroad. Shouldn't Gulf Air, Egyptair, Emirates, Saudia, etc., stop flying to London Heathrow (20% owned by Qatar government)?

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