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Bahrain, Egypt, UAE & Saudi Arabia cut diplomatic ties with Qatar. Qatar aircraft ban

Old 5th Jun 2017, 05:08
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Bahrain, Egypt, UAE & Saudi Arabia cut diplomatic ties with Qatar. Qatar aircraft ban

Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE and Egypt are accusing Qatar of creating instability in the region and funding terror groups.

Qatari Aircraft will be banned from overflying these countries.
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 05:16
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So if Qatari can't overfly KSA and UAE, how are they supposed to maintain their network?
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 05:19
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I don't know. Routes such as Athens and Larnaca will be difficult especially as they cannot fly over Iraq and Syria. Will find lots of seat blocking to allow longer flight times.
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 05:20
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They're not currently banned from overflying; only into said countries. At the moment.....
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 05:24
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Overflights banned from egytptian airspace at the moment
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 05:50
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Definitely not good for QR. Expect short term chaos followed by recriminations , apologies then quid pro quo then back to a " new " normal. Meanwhile , expect the Yanks and U.K. to be playing both sides as usual. This has the POTUS's attention , well maybe. The Shia - Sunni proxy kerfuffle continues unabated. All it will take is an unfortunate loss of face incident and the Gulf gets crazy. Oil price likely to skyrocket. Next the Iranians will ban GF and EK. Time for the popcorn.
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FR24 seems to indicate ops normal....at the moment...maybe there's a grace period
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I think a lot of what has been written here re overflying anywhere can be discoiunted.
As I write, Planefinder shows 10 of Qatar's aircraft overhead Saudi Arabia, 9 overhead UAE, 8 overhead Iraq etc.
1 of those over Saudi is headed for Luxor, Egypt. Others will be routing across Egypt en route to Spain. Those overflying Iraq are mainly bound for Europe, and appear to be routing via Syria.
So, to sum up; nothing is happening with Qatari flights.
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 06:05
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Roster changes from tomorrow.
All Saudi flights cancelled from tomorrow. Bahrain said airspace will close within 24hrs.
EK boys, better saddle up, flying might be about to increase.😉
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 06:09
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
I think a lot of what has been written here re overflying anywhere can be discoiunted.
As I write, Planefinder shows 10 of Qatar's aircraft overhead Saudi Arabia, 9 overhead UAE, 8 overhead Iraq etc.
1 of those over Saudi is headed for Luxor, Egypt. Others will be routing across Egypt en route to Spain. Those overflying Iraq are mainly bound for Europe, and appear to be routing via Syria.
So, to sum up; nothing is happening with Qatari flights.
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QR don't overfly Iraq, so any flight in Iraq airspace is landing in Iraq. Same with Syria, Syrian airspace is Prohibited for our Ops.
With that sort of info, you must be a CNN reporter.
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
I think a lot of what has been written here re overflying anywhere can be discoiunted.
As I write, Planefinder shows 10 of Qatar's aircraft overhead Saudi Arabia, 9 overhead UAE, 8 overhead Iraq etc.
1 of those over Saudi is headed for Luxor, Egypt. Others will be routing across Egypt en route to Spain. Those overflying Iraq are mainly bound for Europe, and appear to be routing via Syria.
So, to sum up; nothing is happening with Qatari flights.
be sensible they are not going to close airspace immediatly ? They will have too many issues to resolve by turning aircraft away. It will be 24 hours and then we will see.
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 06:11
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They have 48 hours to make the necessary changes to flights to Saudi Arabia and the UAE.
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 06:13
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A certain carrier in AUH has ceased flights to Doha from tomorrow

Wouldn't be a good look for Emirates if they didn't follow.
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 06:36
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Originally Posted by IBE8720 View Post
FYI
QR don't overfly Iraq, so any flight in Iraq airspace is landing in Iraq. Same with Syria, Syrian airspace is Prohibited for our Ops.
With that sort of info, you must be a CNN reporter.
Yep, looks like some A320's inbound to Iraq (BGW, NJF and BSR), an outbound flow over the Kingdom enjoying a view of the red dunes at Ha'il and a conga line (or Congo line here on PPRuNe ) going up the western border of Iran. Don't see any QR's over Syria.

A couple of airspace closures could sure mess things up though...
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 06:47
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The unmamed Gulf carrier will impliment cuts to kick in at 02:45 LT on the 6th, according to the BBC.
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QR contingency Plan to reroute all flights bound to Europe and North America to fly South West over Yamani FIR through HAAB, HSSS, HLLT to the Euro Control points of entry according to QR DOH OPS
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 07:10
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Today's SV flights to DOH appear to be cancelled.
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 07:17
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Originally Posted by Hectopascal11224 View Post
QR contingency Plan to reroute all flights bound to Europe and North America to fly South West over Yamani FIR through HAAB, HSSS, HLLT to the Euro Control points of entry according to QR DOH OPS
How are we getting to and from Yemani airspace when we have to fly through Saudi airspace to get there?
And considering Ops in Libyan airspace are prohibited? Plan B guys?

edited-: QR Ops are already banned through Yemeni Airspace and has been for over 2 years. So before we even get to the prohibited airspace we still have to fly through the closed Saudi airspace.

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Old 5th Jun 2017, 07:20
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Hasn't Yemen joined the 'party'?
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Old 5th Jun 2017, 07:26
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Hmmmm, makes one wonder how the Americans will play the Al Udeid card.
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