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Old 10th Aug 2015, 13:24
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320goat

Most of us do the things you do AND read the newspaper Goaty.....

Dont forget to live....

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Old 10th Aug 2015, 13:47
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Hey Goat boy...My statement wasn't a knock on our professionalism or our worth to a company. It was a statement which is very true and hate to break it to you, but that's exactly what we are (obviously with more responsibility and skill). You must be a blast to sit next to in the cockpit though. Keep checking those alternates and reading those Part whatever briefs.
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Old 10th Aug 2015, 14:18
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I'm a hell of a conversationalist!!!

I was just trying to make a point. There is a lot more to this job and I am not a glorified bus driver. I am a pilot who takes pride in his profession. Am I the only one?

Just like our crew are not glorified waitresses. They are there for our safety and having worked with a crew who had to perform CPR for 30 minutes to keep some chap alive, I have witnessed first hand how capable they are.

Anyhow, each to their own.

Now where did I put that manual.............

All the best, and sorry if any offence was caused.

320 (Goat Boy)
P.S. The whole reading material thing is covered in our Part A. Anyway, always found it a bit difficult peering at the instruments around the Telegraph, thank God for iPads!

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Old 10th Aug 2015, 15:18
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Not an Ek pilot but

Hi folks
Who said that they will hired Turbo Props Pilots?
They are not calling Biz jets, whether you fly an phenom 100 or a Global 6000 with 9.000 hrs full,of Falcon, Gulfstream and Global.
That's why I came up with this question. Why TP and no Biz jets

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Old 10th Aug 2015, 17:08
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What's a Biz Jet?

(disclaimer >EK pilot< and too self important to have to fly with a biz jet pilot).

Sorry I have no idea why not corporate jets and a good question. The company is very keen on weight issues lately. If you can fit into those machines then I guess you would be a good candidate to apply!?

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Old 10th Aug 2015, 17:39
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TP v Jet, A v B, doesn't matter.

I think we are in danger of not seeing the wood for the trees here.

The discussion shouldn't imho be about the suitability of TP pilots. Rather it should address one simple question:

1. Would EK be 'lowering' its entry requirements if it didn't have to?
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Old 10th Aug 2015, 18:26
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I don't understand why all the fuzz about EK lowerings it's minimums..it's not like they gonna call all the TP drivers right away..Im sure there are plenty of pilots in their pool with Boeing and Airbus time ready to join.. Maybe out of 50 guys they get 5 or 8 guys with no previous boeing or airbus experience... That's just my 2 cents..
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Old 10th Aug 2015, 18:31
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Of course not BananasBananas, but they can see that the pool of pilots is getting empty and Emirates and Dubai is no longer what it was.

Some airlines that maybe are not better but they can offer nice roster for Captains and FO with reverse rostering and the possibility to live at home or close by, Chinese airlines give opportunity to be based in Europe and Australia, Jet Airways and Etiophian in USA and many more will do in the future.

I am a turboprop guy and obviously it will be necessary to do training and some extra help if I join Emirates, but its the same when we have gone from flying school to any airline, or from any plane to other, that is what training is designed for.

Some comments here are like TP guys are like cadets with 300 hours, we know how to do our job, many of us are even Captains, TRI, TRE, Inspectors, etc...

I think we are forgetting that one thing is lowering the requirements and another is accepting everyone after interview and simulator, if any turboprop guy pass the whole process it will be as valid/good as any other pilot because it is exactly the same process for all pilots going to EK.
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Old 10th Aug 2015, 18:37
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Jennifer Aniston becomes face of Emirates Airlines after Justin Theroux marriage | Daily Mail Online

Well, at 5 million, at least we can all share a laugh

migair54, fully agree with you, to those applying - just make sure that when you apply you take into consideration the pros and cons, whether its EK or EY or SV or FZ or QR. I still have friends who want to work in the middle east cause they think its "tax free", huge mistake, go because you can live a life there, compare it with your home country, money shouldn't be the only reason!
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Old 10th Aug 2015, 19:03
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Just wondering how long people forsee the window staying open? How long is a piece of string I know but generally how long do their windows remain active? I have 2300 tt, zero jet time and am eligible for my ATPL but my next sim ride isn't scheduled until December. Should I just apply now and in the unlikely event i get called before then I could book a sim check, fly a raw data ILS and get my ATPL issued. Any thoughts? Normally I would just wait but I don't want to miss the opportunity on something so simple.
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Old 10th Aug 2015, 20:12
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@ cgwhitemonk11, please do apply and you never know what the reply will be as these guys are very desperate for pilots. It would be a great barometer of the desperation to see what the result of your application would be. TP, no current ATPL to fly wide body jets on global routes, perfect applicant under current low manning crisis. Give it a try.

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Old 10th Aug 2015, 21:52
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Jack, I agree.... but give the guy a break....
37 years ago I was a TP guy hoping for the chance to score a deal as a FE on a 727... it never happened. But I persevered. For some, the dream is still real. If anyone has the enthusiasm and desire beyond (Mommy and Daddy want me to do this), I'll humbly welcome them to my cockpit.... and I will nurture, and promote whatever simple experience and skills I can afford. Remember... we've all been there... it's just a matter of steering those qualified to the appropriate path..
Enchilada...
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 05:48
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Im fairly confident that given the right training, an experienced heavy TP guy could make the transition no problem Jack, if you can go from Easyjet to Emirates, you can go from Flybe... or do you think the Easy FO is so much more capable? Honest question, no trolling. In fact I would imagine the experienced TP guy will likely have the greater base of flying experience from which to build upon but call me old fashioned.
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 06:44
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How many more pages is the same thing going to be "discussed" on this thread. Who cares, honestly are you going to offload yourself if you know an ex TP pilot or cadet is flying the plane? You won't even know!. The main concern with EK is the T&C's, if guys want to apply then let them. Just be very very mindful of what you're getting into. The thread on resigning from EK is just as large and I suspect not just for show....my humble opinion.
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 07:46
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I assure you, skyship, those people complaining about flying too much are living in the real world.

It is those that are yet to experience an Ek roster, and think ' hey it can't be that bad', are the ones not living in the real world.
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 10:36
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I assure you, skyship, those people complaining about flying too much are living in the real world.

It is those that are yet to experience an Ek roster, and think ' hey it can't be that bad', are the ones not living in the real world.
95 hours a month in Ryanair is bearable as you're flying the same time in daylight every day.

It will be a shock to do 95 hours at different time of the night across many different time zones. It's not sustainable and all newcomers must surely realise this soon?
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 11:42
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Give it a year or two and they will be here posting the same stuff.
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 11:46
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Hi Guys,
Did U saw the new EK requirements ?
Motivation and ICAO ATPL, no minimum Flying Hours.
Think it's not a frozen ATPL....
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Emirates is looking for the best pilots in the world!

We are hiring motivated, technically proficient and experienced pilots who aspire to excellence.

If this describes you, and you have an ICAO ATPL along with excellent English language fluency (to ICAO English level 4 or above) we would like to hear from you.
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 12:49
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They think we are all crazy, Mr Cat. Just complaining old farts. They will learn.
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 15:09
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Quite simply I'd rather have someone who can FLY an aeroplane as opposed to an autopilot next to me... Even more so when I go for my morning ablutions, usually around the Bucharest FIR...

I couldn't care two hoots about their background...

On a related note. Why the recent expensive publication teaching us all how to plan descents and do CDAs? Maybe some aren't as capable as they think they are would be my guess!
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