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Old 27th Jul 2015, 15:34
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Good news for those flying on turbo props or light jets. Emirates lowered their requirements for first officers.

As I see on the line the majority are unhappy with the lifestyle, not the benefits. So maybe instead of complaining about the amount of hours we fly, the leave we don't get, the difficulties with swapping and the timeframe for promotions. Maybe, just maybe, we should try to get more people to Emirates. Maybe I'm thinking too easy, but doesn't it need more pilots to join to have the above changed for the better in the first place?

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Old 27th Jul 2015, 15:44
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What requirements are we now talking now?

Do you have more details?

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Old 27th Jul 2015, 15:47
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ATPL & English level 4 or above. Check EK website
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 16:02
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What no hours requirements at all?! Wow!
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 16:12
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EK has been short pilots for 8 years. They stopped hiring for several of them. They continue to announce new flights when they don't have enough pilots for the one's they have now. If they were so worried about the EK pilots health, they wouldn't have been running 8 days off a month on the 330 guys for the last 3-4 years. No, improving conditions is too hard. Getting Dash-8 guys to apply for a wide body gig is easy. Like taking candy from a baby. Congrats to all EK captains, you have just been promoted to TRI's.
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 17:18
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The requirement is an ATPL means 1500 hours.

What is worthy of note is that the company can now conduct ZFT training for individuals with considerably less experience than those holding a newly issued ATPL and 1500 hours.

Should there not be enough interest with the requirements as they are now, then expect them to be lowered further.
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 17:26
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Well it is not going to happen for me. 4000tt with 3600 hours on small jet but still flying with cpl frozen atpl.

Perhaps it is a bless if i read all the comments.
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 17:34
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@120feet

If nobody joins it won't get any better for sure isn't it?! If (a big IF) management wants to change things, they need pilots joining first before anything else. Without them expect things to get even worse.

Although some people like to think it is, flying a wide body is not rocket science. I have confidence in our recruitment team, they have done a pretty good job until now.
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 18:11
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From Pistons directly on to B777/A380!!!!!!
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 18:12
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Clearly they recognize there's a problem but yet still refuse to do anything to keep the current work force in place...it really is disappointing. While I know I shouldn't be surprised, I just can't help but be surprised by their ability to remain totally arrogant even in the situation they currently find themselves in.

While this won't stop the attrition, they definitely will have a massive surplus of applicants now. There are plenty of unhappy turbo prop guys just waiting for a chance to get into the jet 'game'.
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 19:26
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Did wash up only few days ago, from HR new joiners ATPL + 500hrs.
The 500 hrs are anything at and above Twin Otter.
This IS the new standard.
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 19:36
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will be interesting when the press finds out
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 19:40
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Is there an age limit?
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 20:03
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And then what GoreTex? The skies are full with pilots with even less hours and only holding a CPL, even on the wide bodies....
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 20:07
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Don,

the FAA increased the hours required to fly a commercial plane
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 20:40
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So a licence holder that can speak reasonable English. That is as low as a requirement can go. I've heard tell of a time previously when entry requirements were that low, perhaps mid-80s? What happens when the US opens up to expats?
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 20:42
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I'd certainly rather fly beside a turboprop pilot with 1500 hours than a cadet with 500. Not that the cadets are bad.
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 21:21
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From what I hear habibis, lots of headless chickens on the upper floors of the bouncy castle, all blaming each other for the current shambles.

Apparently, the Turboprop guys thing has been vetoed by the bossman. Its 777 DECs back on, this will be fun to watch. Thinking is that the 777 is a more "attractive" type than the A330 is. Some of these people just don't get it, DEC's = floodgates open for 777 F/Os leaving.

Also, was told current attrition rate is near 11%, however anyone over 50 leaving is regarded as Retiring, so its actually in Emirates speak only 3.8%

Interesting times ahead, what with more flights, less pilots, more aircraft, less pilots.

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Old 28th Jul 2015, 02:45
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GoreTex, if I'm not mistaken the FAA requires 1500hrs. Thats exactly what an ATPL is. 1500hrs including 500hrs multi pilot. So I don't see Emirates making the papers on this subject other then a big advertisement announcing their roadshows.
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 03:13
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Don,
other airlines have a training department but EK doesn't, EK has a checking department
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