Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Middle East
Reload this Page >

So Now the Pay Review....

Middle East Many expats still flying in Knoteetingham. Regional issues can be discussed here.

So Now the Pay Review....

Old 15th May 2013, 13:37
  #61 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Dubai - sand land.
Age: 50
Posts: 2,585
Well I'm reading it as 3.5% AND the salary step (unless you're stuck at the top of course!!!
White Knight is online now  
Old 15th May 2013, 13:41
  #62 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: france
Posts: 106
I think fatbusdriver is our winner today! you have just unlocked it!

If our great management is reading this topic they must have a great laught!

My guess ; done on purpose...
lfrk is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 13:42
  #63 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In the sandy.
Age: 51
Posts: 297
Can someone please just copy and paste the letter so we can all share in the joke!
Mister Warning is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 13:42
  #64 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Germany
Posts: 121
Grammar Lessons Required ASAP !!

6.5% (3.5% plus a step of 3%) -
People are down , Morale at an all time low !
but people willing to keep the head down and work through it

3.5% (0.5% pay increase) -
An Absolute Insult !
Step + 0.5%, uproot a family for that???



PA in Dubai now can earn 30,000 AED per month,
a bit of perspective anyone?

Last edited by HighLow; 15th May 2013 at 13:43.
HighLow is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 13:46
  #65 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: sand box
Posts: 129
Unbelievable! Has Ed returned it's the sort of letter he used to send out. I read it as 6.5 percent hopefully some clarity will be forthcoming.....
emratty is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 13:51
  #66 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: DXB & FL 410
Posts: 923
surely there's a paragraph missing!

HighLow, forget being a PA in Dubai, move from Super Jumbo's to Super yatchts. Top salaries around $240,000

Demand soars for Gulf superyacht staff - Luxury Living - ArabianBusiness.com
Craggenmore is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 13:53
  #67 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: LHR
Posts: 325
Word from HR (buddy just came from wash up) is its 3.5%. But apparently that ascertion wasn't totally convincing!! So anyone's guess!!

Re-reading the email though I make it 3.5%. I guess we will see when the contract adjustments are done.

Last edited by Cloud Bunny; 15th May 2013 at 13:56.
Cloud Bunny is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 13:55
  #68 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Dubai - sand land.
Age: 50
Posts: 2,585
It may be signed by our esteemed boss; but would have been written by - funnily enough, a PA - for whom English is undoubtedly not a first language!
White Knight is online now  
Old 15th May 2013, 13:56
  #69 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Dubai - sand land.
Age: 50
Posts: 2,585
Originally Posted by cloud bunny
Word from HR (buddy just came from wash up) is its 3.5%. But apparently that ascertion wasn't totally convincing!! So anyone's guess!!
So why bother posting this non information
White Knight is online now  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:00
  #70 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Dubai
Posts: 7
Thumbs down

I was hopeful of 6.5% initially, but the more I read the email the more it becomes clear that it is only 3.5%. The key words in the email are "WHICH INCLUDES". It says "an increase of 3.5% WHICH INCLUDES a step increase AND an adjustment to the salary step (0.5%). Thanks for your generosity Emirates...that means that other than the step I get an extra 134 dirhams per month!!!! Woohoo!!
EK_Desert_Slave is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:06
  #71 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Dubai
Posts: 7
Personally I find the extra 0.5% more insulting than if they had just given the basic 3% step. Its as if they are saying, "We know that you deserve more than the step, so here is .5%". How stupid do they think we are honestly?? Why not just throw in a McDonald's happy meal gift certificate and call that our "raise"...
EK_Desert_Slave is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:13
  #72 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 1998
Location: Blandings
Posts: 685
If you are relatively new to the company you may want to savour what the future holds: the most senior 200 or so pilots in the company are now making 0.5% more than they were two years ago

This is the regional notion of how one treats the "valued" employees.

There is a nice set of brackets there. If you apply to the airline with too little experience you get a PFO letter. If you eventually get hired but stay too long you get a PFO pay adjustment.

Last edited by Dropp the Pilot; 15th May 2013 at 14:13.
Dropp the Pilot is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:22
  #73 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: somewhere
Posts: 8
0.5% (can you even call that an increase)

That is what you call "adding insult to injury"
Wilya is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:25
  #74 (permalink)  
short flights long nights
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 2,916
I have refrained from up to now... But they are seriously taking the p.., all goodwill just gone
SOPS is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:30
  #75 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Dubai
Age: 46
Posts: 41
Well if the total is 3,5 percent woulden't that make the increase something like 0,48 for the newbies and the oldies....
Eric Carr is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:35
  #76 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: where it's yellow not green
Posts: 181
I can't see how this can mean 6.5%. It says 3.5% includes the step for those who are eligible.

3% step plus the 0.5% raise.

If you joined after December 2012 you get +0.5%.

Why they word all letters like it's been put through google translate is beyond me
BongleBear is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:39
  #77 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Dubai
Posts: 2
Unhappy 0.5%

Guys, sorry to inform you all , it's a pay rise of Exactly 0.5 %.
I Confirmed if with HR.

Sorry to say the least .
Wrist shot is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:40
  #78 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Location: A long way from home with lots more sand.
Age: 51
Posts: 417
Isn't it amazing that someone who holds a DSVP position, and for whom English is their first language, can't send basic information to the pilot body without it being subject to various interpretation!! This reflects incredibly negatively on the said individuals ability to communicate. I wonder whether he will care ?
clear to land is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:41
  #79 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Here and there
Age: 8
Posts: 53
Finally received the email. Not sure what some of you were reading, it's not the best writing but it's clearly 3.5% total. "..company has approved a 3.5% increase which INCLUDES (emphasis mine) a step increase.

Nothing in this place matters other than supply and demand. Their thinking is that the top 200 guys either have no place to go or don't want to leave. There are enough in the queue to ensure new classes are filled this year. Therefore, no need for an increase in real wages. The rest of us will tread water for another year and hope for a morsel next year........
fringhtok is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:42
  #80 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: where it's yellow not green
Posts: 181
Accommodation allowance...

The new joiners have recently been told that accommodation allowance is going up to 180,000/200,000 (FO/Capt). If the recruitment/new joiners team are saying this then surely there has to be even a hint of truth in it?!

Anyone heard about it? I thought it would be mentioned in the same email as the pay decrease one we got today.
BongleBear is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.