Turkish Airlines - THY Recruitment (Merged)
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All airlines hiring expatriate pilots offer a standard career path with normal career progression. Korean does not offer upgrade to FO but it is clearly stated in their offer ( you can take an informed decision ) and includes accommodation and commuting benefits making of THY a unique **** up. If you want and can reside in EU come to Ryanair if you have experience you can upgrade in one year and be a TRI in 2.
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Umitati as the swine already said all airlines hiring expat offer upgrade opportunities and a non discriminating environment. Only exception.... THY. Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, Cathay, Dragon Air, Air Hong Kong, Air Arabia, Air Japan, Vietnam Airlines, all really European carriers and the list continues now even with some Chinese operator will put you , unlike THY on a real, no joke, seniority list and upgrade you when your number comes out without any other
requirement than an ATPL and the necessary skills.... Your position reads Europe. Are you a clandestine..?
requirement than an ATPL and the necessary skills.... Your position reads Europe. Are you a clandestine..?
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Me personally think Umitati is living in a country that geographically is by a small part in Europe but by all other aspects one light year away...if not more.
Turkey. Suggestion: calling repeatedly "master" the captain seating near to you in the SIM at the screening of most of the mentioned airline will be probably a good reason to fail you . Not the opposite.
Turkey. Suggestion: calling repeatedly "master" the captain seating near to you in the SIM at the screening of most of the mentioned airline will be probably a good reason to fail you . Not the opposite.
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Guys ive been reading your posts and feeling really weird you're complaining about turkey and THY including every single note you said,
well, im an Egyptian Pilot, i Fly B738 for Egyptair , I Get Paid as Little as 2500 Euros per month, average of 70 flying hours monthly( up to 100 hours, minimum of 55 hours ) , silly roasters, 7 working days then 2 days off, 21 days annual leave, with no other allowances except those in layovers,
Knowing The Current Situation in Egypt, i'd rather live any other country in the world, im sure it will be a better place !
so, i've a screening soon in THY , do u think THY is better for me ?
and please if anyone has any experience with THY screening let me know
PM'S are welcomed
well, im an Egyptian Pilot, i Fly B738 for Egyptair , I Get Paid as Little as 2500 Euros per month, average of 70 flying hours monthly( up to 100 hours, minimum of 55 hours ) , silly roasters, 7 working days then 2 days off, 21 days annual leave, with no other allowances except those in layovers,
Knowing The Current Situation in Egypt, i'd rather live any other country in the world, im sure it will be a better place !
so, i've a screening soon in THY , do u think THY is better for me ?
and please if anyone has any experience with THY screening let me know
PM'S are welcomed
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Well you can not say the payment is bad as such. Yes its lower than EK ETI etc. But its still good....
Well the roster for Fos is not bad, as we do not fly more than 65-70 hours per month. Just be clear of that u as expat will virtually never fly on sundays etc. as these days are reserved for the turks!(more money for them)
The big big issue is in THY is the crm. Unfortunately it is at some stage not excisting at all...
A combination of no social/emptahy skills and no english proficiency by a large amount of turkish pilots, makes the CRM go down, to a virtually non existing level.
Well the roster for Fos is not bad, as we do not fly more than 65-70 hours per month. Just be clear of that u as expat will virtually never fly on sundays etc. as these days are reserved for the turks!(more money for them)
The big big issue is in THY is the crm. Unfortunately it is at some stage not excisting at all...
A combination of no social/emptahy skills and no english proficiency by a large amount of turkish pilots, makes the CRM go down, to a virtually non existing level.
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I attended the screening, and passed. They take you to a five day screening
Day one Crm group work
Day two document check
Day three simulator
Day four tech interview
Day five Medical check
Basically, you will be informed by email if you passed that days screening
If you go thru all 5 days, you will be congratulated
But thats just the beginning. Then you have to wait and wait until,you hear from them again
They ask you to pay for all your training as a non type rated up front, that sums up something about 18-22000 euros or more as they can not come up with the real amount!!
They send you a LOI letter of intent with lots of terms and conditions in it you need a lawyer to de-code that!,
Day one Crm group work
Day two document check
Day three simulator
Day four tech interview
Day five Medical check
Basically, you will be informed by email if you passed that days screening
If you go thru all 5 days, you will be congratulated
But thats just the beginning. Then you have to wait and wait until,you hear from them again
They ask you to pay for all your training as a non type rated up front, that sums up something about 18-22000 euros or more as they can not come up with the real amount!!
They send you a LOI letter of intent with lots of terms and conditions in it you need a lawyer to de-code that!,
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Any happy FO in THY?
Are there any happy FO in THY?
All angry ones, please don't reply. I have applied with the airline and expecting the assessment next month. Reading this thread has scared me, but then I realized it is the same few people complaining...
Many people like me are willing to take the job that someone else refuses.
I want to see if there are FO that actually get what the contract says:
-11, 500 TL basic
-5, 800 TL quaterly bonus
This is what we apply for and this is what we expect.
I have univ diploma , 4500 hrs total, 2500 on A320? Would I have a chance to upgrade to wide body in the next 3 years and to a captain in the next 5-6?
Simple expectations - flight hours, culture, home sickness are no factor. Also cab reinbursment
I am sure plenty of candidates are looking for this exact info and noting more?
thanx t
All angry ones, please don't reply. I have applied with the airline and expecting the assessment next month. Reading this thread has scared me, but then I realized it is the same few people complaining...
Many people like me are willing to take the job that someone else refuses.
I want to see if there are FO that actually get what the contract says:
-11, 500 TL basic
-5, 800 TL quaterly bonus
This is what we apply for and this is what we expect.
I have univ diploma , 4500 hrs total, 2500 on A320? Would I have a chance to upgrade to wide body in the next 3 years and to a captain in the next 5-6?
Simple expectations - flight hours, culture, home sickness are no factor. Also cab reinbursment
I am sure plenty of candidates are looking for this exact info and noting more?
thanx t
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Hey Flyboy SG,
My sentiments exactly...I also made it but have decided not to join for just about all the exact reasons mentioned by you.
My interview during documents check was preceded by the question from the Chief Pilot...."You are a lot more younger and experienced than a lot of our Turkish FO's....but you may not see Command(Left Seat) for a long time....How'd you feel about that???
Was the time I finished my assessment and went back.....never to return...!!!
PS:- For the newcomer FO's......think long and hard before you join.....Coz I thought my airline was Hierarchical......These guys take the cake......and without being able to speak basic English......!!!
My sentiments exactly...I also made it but have decided not to join for just about all the exact reasons mentioned by you.
My interview during documents check was preceded by the question from the Chief Pilot...."You are a lot more younger and experienced than a lot of our Turkish FO's....but you may not see Command(Left Seat) for a long time....How'd you feel about that???
Was the time I finished my assessment and went back.....never to return...!!!
PS:- For the newcomer FO's......think long and hard before you join.....Coz I thought my airline was Hierarchical......These guys take the cake......and without being able to speak basic English......!!!
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There is no seniority in terms of getting upgraded to Wide Body.
Some get it, some do not. There seems to be no rational selection.
Foreign? Captain? No Way. Even if u have a Diploma there is no chance to get upgraded.There are no existing plans, upgrading any foreign FOs to the LH seat.
Some get it, some do not. There seems to be no rational selection.
Foreign? Captain? No Way. Even if u have a Diploma there is no chance to get upgraded.There are no existing plans, upgrading any foreign FOs to the LH seat.
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@ malchogancho
Hey Mate,
I'm quite happy to be here in Istanbul... Yes there are some issues mainly because of poor decision making and management processes, however this is my third airline and the previous two had the same issues (major network carriers). So, I think we always can find sth to complain... As you have University degree, you may be eligible for the upgrade.. But, you will be at the bottom of the seniority and believe me gotta wait longer than expected...
For the crew planning, 2 years ago it was a nightmare... With the implementation of new software they barely touch my schedule... At least, this is the case for the last 8-10 months... Average flight time per month is 70 which means no extra bucks
CRM within the THY is not as in 2010. With 700 expats here and lots of them as TRE/TRE on different fleets, it has improved a lot. It does not mean there are no mean people, but it is not more than the average of any other airline.
If you are from Bulgaria, you wont feel home sick and pretty sure the money you make here is worth to take a chance. Just give it a try but never loose the seniority in your current company, if, by any chance, you are on the list to be upgraded...
Have a safe flight all...
I'm quite happy to be here in Istanbul... Yes there are some issues mainly because of poor decision making and management processes, however this is my third airline and the previous two had the same issues (major network carriers). So, I think we always can find sth to complain... As you have University degree, you may be eligible for the upgrade.. But, you will be at the bottom of the seniority and believe me gotta wait longer than expected...
For the crew planning, 2 years ago it was a nightmare... With the implementation of new software they barely touch my schedule... At least, this is the case for the last 8-10 months... Average flight time per month is 70 which means no extra bucks
CRM within the THY is not as in 2010. With 700 expats here and lots of them as TRE/TRE on different fleets, it has improved a lot. It does not mean there are no mean people, but it is not more than the average of any other airline.
If you are from Bulgaria, you wont feel home sick and pretty sure the money you make here is worth to take a chance. Just give it a try but never loose the seniority in your current company, if, by any chance, you are on the list to be upgraded...
Have a safe flight all...
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We do not recommend, seen the present situation of discrimination and extreme chauvinism, to any EU pilot to seek employment with this carrier.
The management of THY is proving itself irresponsible in its use of deceiving and unethical practices in relation to the employment of expat pilots. This starting from the recruitment phase. The number of elsewhere unthinkable actions taken so far to this extent proves our thesis. There are different groups among the THY expat pilot community with different situation but the basic problems are effecting all.
It is now evident THY is just trying to gain time in order to have enough local manpower. It would seems that to reach their goals they are willing to use all means, completely disregarding decency and the most basic civil rules of inclusion, reciprocal respect and understanding of others expectations, and to risk extremely negative media coverage for the sake of their hyper nationalism and protectionism.
The very structure of THY retrograde internal sociopolitical texture constitutes a so far insurmountable obstacle that obscures the view of available best practices beside being a threat to the safety of their operation.
We are in the process of taking the necessary steps to bring to the attention of EU authorities and the media the present situation. The adjective "European" will not be misused as marketing tool.
THY EXPAT PILOT COMMITEE
The management of THY is proving itself irresponsible in its use of deceiving and unethical practices in relation to the employment of expat pilots. This starting from the recruitment phase. The number of elsewhere unthinkable actions taken so far to this extent proves our thesis. There are different groups among the THY expat pilot community with different situation but the basic problems are effecting all.
It is now evident THY is just trying to gain time in order to have enough local manpower. It would seems that to reach their goals they are willing to use all means, completely disregarding decency and the most basic civil rules of inclusion, reciprocal respect and understanding of others expectations, and to risk extremely negative media coverage for the sake of their hyper nationalism and protectionism.
The very structure of THY retrograde internal sociopolitical texture constitutes a so far insurmountable obstacle that obscures the view of available best practices beside being a threat to the safety of their operation.
We are in the process of taking the necessary steps to bring to the attention of EU authorities and the media the present situation. The adjective "European" will not be misused as marketing tool.
THY EXPAT PILOT COMMITEE
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My friend from Bulgaria if you did not make the cut in real airlines and you are unemployed you can find out by your self... but you have been warned. If you have a job stick to it till you get your left seat don't be a shortsighted idiot.As per "upgrade" don't trust a word this crooks or Parc say. Flap 2 where you working for PIA before ?? Upgrade.. ah ah ah! You are already on your way out and don't even know it...
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I stand to be corrected but rumor is that nationality and " educational" limitation on career path in THY are to be removed. If this is the case a very sensitive initiative for those who have been working hard for the success of the company in these years.
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Info request DEC 330
Hi guys,
Have screening coming up for DEC330, any information, especially from someone who has gone through the recent selection process would be very helpful. Also like to hear from anyone on the 330 fleet. Thanks in advance, PM is best for me. Regards.
Have screening coming up for DEC330, any information, especially from someone who has gone through the recent selection process would be very helpful. Also like to hear from anyone on the 330 fleet. Thanks in advance, PM is best for me. Regards.
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My apologies if this has already been asked, but does anyone know why Turkish has no love for EMB pilots? I just can't figure out what the difference between a CRJ-200 and EMB-145 is when it comes to piloting skills 
They don't even consider E170 and 175 guys :roll eyes:
Just curious...
They don't even consider E170 and 175 guys :roll eyes:Just curious...