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Old 11th Oct 2013, 10:56
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THY just announced that all expat pilots have to convert their EASA licenses to turkish DGCA ones till 31.12.2014.

No additional training or examination is required and fees will be covered by THY.
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 11:01
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What does that mean practically?
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 11:30
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Hard times if you decide to leave
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 17:43
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To understand THY you need to understand Turkish culture and the fact that , while it has many positive sides it is simply incompatible with a modern, efficient safe flight operations. A tendency to machism, a somehow limited view of life, delusional self promotion, a certain closure to the world and a tendency to avoid confrontation, lack of real competencies and gigantic problems of CRM and with the official aviation language. Tick boxing is the result with no real education. A no cheese just holes safety model where the only real barrier is maintenance and technology. The socio-political situation does not help. A vastly crooked opportunistically Islamic Government dreaming, and selling the dream, of a new Empire and riding the waves of a vastly over inflated economy. Good marketing, temporarily favorable economics ( for THY), labor laws and weak unions. As an expat, beside the impossible rosters that will leave no no space for a life, you have to stand all other sorts of negative side effects. Plus the total confusion.It really looks like they really don't know what they are doing. Work permit , resident permits , validations, apron cards,a totally uncoordinated bureaucratic madness. I and, I must say very fortunately , left when they asked me to convert my ICAO into EASA and gave me a month for it. And now I read that they are going to Turkish DGAC license? WTF ??? They really need to put their act together as they don't stand a chance and they are getting a reputation...
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Old 11th Oct 2013, 20:38
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What I am saying is that the THY may not be the best place to work, but I dont think worst either.. So plan your life, add some hours, maybe another type then do whatever you want... In the meantime, enjoy being close to home if you are european etc..
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Old 12th Oct 2013, 14:35
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enjoy being close to home

exactly, that is the only thing you can do -
enjoy being close to home
...nothing else, because you have not really a decent chance to go home for reasons mentioned already in several posts above

As the same happened to me, I joined to come closer to home, but at the end its better to be far from home and can go home on a regular base e.g. 6on 2 off, than sitting in IST and having no chance to go home, especially if you can already see the church spire of your home and you realize NO way to go home, because of this oppresors.
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Old 13th Oct 2013, 00:47
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Yes, they want you to do the Turkish Licence as they cannot comply with European standards, yet they will only accept pilots who have an EASA licence. Not ICAO or FAA.

Honestly, who are these clowns???!!!
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Old 13th Oct 2013, 08:46
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TUI Nordic wants Swedish licenses, RYR wants IAA, UK carriers want a CAA. It's not something special in the aviation business..
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 08:39
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Xolon: it's not the same for Turkey and THY; you can't ask European pilots to get rid of their EASA license for a turkish one; no Expat will want to lose his JAA or EASA license! How could you EVER find a job somewhere else after if needed?

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Old 18th Oct 2013, 09:25
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True, I love mine..

I though Turkey licensing was according the JAA/EASA regulations?
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 10:10
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If I'm right: Turkey is accepted by JAA but will not be by EASA

In the other direction: Turkey accepts JAA and now EASA licenses
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 10:14
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they, the Turkish, were accepted by JAA but (luckily) no longer by EASA.
It's good and I hope EASA will resist and not again allow the Turkish to get any kind of a EASA membership.
People with insight knowledge may probably agree.......as they know why....
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Old 22nd Oct 2013, 07:26
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THY assesment

Hi everyone,

I have to attend the THY screening on B737 and I would appreciate any information and feedback about the HTA test, English test and Sim from pilots whose already working there or did the screening already.
You can MP me as well.


Thank you guys.
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Old 22nd Oct 2013, 13:40
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Hey Nicolas sorry I can't help you for the screening for FO but I assume it is standard stuff. Just beware of the following:

1) On 737 you will have a maximum of 8 days off od which max 4 in a row.

2) The salaries are down 20% in USD or EURO terms due to the fall of the TL

3) You will not be upgraded if you do not have 4 year college degree and also if you do it might not be approved by local authorities

4) The professional level is far from fantastic. Very old style... this is a captain company. CRM is a just a word they fill their mouth with. Lots of ex military pilots with attitudes and no real standard.

enjoy
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Old 31st Oct 2013, 15:51
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not only THY, as yabanci posted, but all Turkish airlines are not good for expats
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Old 3rd Nov 2013, 17:46
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Really you lot crack me up, if it aint good, then go back to your own country and fly there really feel sorry for THY that they have to settle for these sorry bunch of pilots
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Old 6th Nov 2013, 16:33
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Turkish Assessment!

Hello

Could someone tell me what the HTA test consist of during assessment?

you can pm me if you like.

Thanks
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Old 6th Nov 2013, 18:56
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First of all kind of rude to call somebody prick kind of shows your character and what kind of man you are you w@nker Iam very aware of The turkish aviation scène. If you dont have an option to go home, you dont disrespect the hand that feeds you.I hate the roster as well i know the shortcomings, I know all the problems however it is my choice to be here nobody forced me to come here and i decide if it is time to go , so what is your point here,that you are mentally challenged.And by the way I passed the screening and unfortunately it is not fool proof as i can see.

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Old 6th Nov 2013, 19:09
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HTA test

Pilotdreamer

The HTA test is actually quite simple dont wory about it. It is not the same standard as the european tests you are used to, I am not kidding it is really simple, questions group exercise and personal interview.
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Old 10th Nov 2013, 17:54
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Well old pupoloscano glad you changed your original post with you disrespecting the people from the 3th world i found it quite improper and racist, but to set your mind at ease iam not from the 3th world iam from the 1st world ..wauw iant that great... And you are right a mature person would be able to take critisism and now go and look up critisism and reread your post..... However lets drop that subject and get to the point,

Did you ever hear of figure of speech ? The hand that feeds you ,figure of speech got it ?

For the first time though i have to agree with you, you are absolutely correct that you deserve to get paid for the job you do, my only point is paisan if you are not happy be a man make the decision and leave because all this negative bull**** is not making it easier for everybody, lets just stick to the facts..

I wish you many happy landings pupoluscano and this is meant
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