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5 blocked days and a GACA license
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In fear of "haemorrhaging"...
The past tense term "haemorrhaged" would be more apt I believe. They are 400 pilots down from last year already, before considering further employment for growth. Hence their T's & C's have changed in stealth yet again, to overcome crewing shortfalls. The only answer for there is for heads to roll in a major clean out of the management, who actually created their mess. The other ME operators I hope are watching and learning what NOT to do... It's a perfect study case of how to ruin an airline.
The past tense term "haemorrhaged" would be more apt I believe. They are 400 pilots down from last year already, before considering further employment for growth. Hence their T's & C's have changed in stealth yet again, to overcome crewing shortfalls. The only answer for there is for heads to roll in a major clean out of the management, who actually created their mess. The other ME operators I hope are watching and learning what NOT to do... It's a perfect study case of how to ruin an airline.
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Down to 5 days now on average.
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I had it on 14th. Couldn't make it. So rescheduled it to June.
All the best to you guys. Let us know how it went.
Cheers
All the best to you guys. Let us know how it went.
Cheers
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Thank you Metro301 
It used to be slightly better some years ago ...
What do you mean with "5 on average"? There are months in which it can be less than 5 days?
Cheers
It used to be slightly better some years ago ...
What do you mean with "5 on average"? There are months in which it can be less than 5 days?
Cheers
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What do you mean with "5 on average"?
"Industry Best Practices" my a5se!
If you have a line that goes over into a new month and your days off were 1-5 of that next month, then you will lose some of them.
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atpl for first officer
Hi Mutt,
Is it required for fo 777 to have atpl ?
Or cpl with time on 320 is enough?
I received the offering contract stated that i need to show atp faa or icao atpl. Its not even stated on their website recruitment.
Thanks
Adwa0001
Is it required for fo 777 to have atpl ?
Or cpl with time on 320 is enough?
I received the offering contract stated that i need to show atp faa or icao atpl. Its not even stated on their website recruitment.
Thanks
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Is it required for fo 777 to have atpl ?
First thing that you will be doing is ground school for the GACA written exam.
Anyway, cant your unfreeze a EASA ATP with an OPC? (I'm assuming your location means you have a EASA license)
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Hi,
Does somebody know about Written Gaca content ? How many questions ? Which score to pass ? I heard that it is the same as FAA (80 questions, 70 percents).
I have a JAA licence and the rules and laws are quite different from FAA.
I wonder if we could find US rules questions during the test, and if Gaca uses the same rules as Faa or has its own.
Does somebody know about Written Gaca content ? How many questions ? Which score to pass ? I heard that it is the same as FAA (80 questions, 70 percents).
I have a JAA licence and the rules and laws are quite different from FAA.
I wonder if we could find US rules questions during the test, and if Gaca uses the same rules as Faa or has its own.
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Flyingbusy, answer to you question will be different today compared to tomorrow, dont worry about it as they give you a week supervised study.
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@flyingbusy
CPL or ATPL exams should be the least of your concerns (FYI info are copy paste 100% from the GLEIM books ,so is the computer study you will have,GACA test is exactly the same with FAA with 100 Qs,pass rate is 70% but SV will not accept if its not above 80%, you will have a second shot if your score is below 70 ,so far all of the guys score easily more than 90%).You have to worry about the SV pre oral exam on your TR 
.Then is the the GACA oral exam on your TR .Then is the SV check ride in the sim before the GACA check ride in the sim.Naturally the same goes for line training as well (34 sectors for CPT 22 for FO)
.You are still worrying about the CPL or ATPL exam ?
PS1. First Direct entry FOs on the WB fleet started last July. Since then the numbers are steadily increasing . Since Jan 2015 more than 20 FOs have joined the company.Most of them are coming from Egypt Air as they can keep their seniority for 4-5 years. Keep in mind that SV plans for 80-90 local cadets this year (same with 2014 )
PS2 Last week's assessment in Cairo was very successful as of the 14 who took the written test 13 of them got a job offer after the interview.
.Then is the the GACA oral exam on your TR .Then is the SV check ride in the sim before the GACA check ride in the sim.Naturally the same goes for line training as well (34 sectors for CPT 22 for FO).You are still worrying about the CPL or ATPL exam ?PS1. First Direct entry FOs on the WB fleet started last July. Since then the numbers are steadily increasing . Since Jan 2015 more than 20 FOs have joined the company.Most of them are coming from Egypt Air as they can keep their seniority for 4-5 years. Keep in mind that SV plans for 80-90 local cadets this year (same with 2014 )
PS2 Last week's assessment in Cairo was very successful as of the 14 who took the written test 13 of them got a job offer after the interview.
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FO from Airbus to Boeing
In terms of days off and commuting: What is the best fleet for an FO?
After a lot of time in Airbus , is changing to Boeing a good idea or a high risk chance in Saudia?
After a lot of time in Airbus , is changing to Boeing a good idea or a high risk chance in Saudia?
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You need to understand that Saudia does not offer a commuting contract. Some people do try to commute but its not easy, you're only going to get 2-3 days at home for each commute. The A320 is very difficult. The 777 is probably the best option because there is less shorthaul on that fleet than the A330 but on the 330 you fly fewer hours. In any case when they hire you there is no choice offered, you take or leave what you're given.
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fleet selction and commuting
All FO's are assigned to the WB fleet (except the 747).Even some FOs from the 320 now go to the T7 as the company is not expecting any new 330. All CPTs without WB experience are assigned to the 320 (and it makes sense as there are Saudi CPTs with 8-9 years experience on the 320 without transition to the WB). Commuting is the same regardless of fleet. a string of 5 days OFF/month and that's all.30 days of leave (can not be allocated to blocks of less than 15 plus another 10 days off in the 320 and 15 in the T7)
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You will receive accommodation appropriate for your family in Saudia city. Your kids education in Jeddah is subsidised and for all effective purposes Jeddah is where you'll live. You may be able to get back to your own country for a few days each month but please don't consider this to be commuting. Korean offer a real commuting contract.