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The Greatest Airline for me
I have been a Flight attendant with Saudi Arabian Airlines from 1981 to 1991 ,All i can say that it was the best Airlines that had givven me the opportunity to be based out side Saudi Arabia, to have long lay overs all over the world,
to fly VIP Flights and experience the greatest and the most fabulious jets ever seen, Saudia city is a great compound equiped with all the facilities , everything is supplied , Saudia was my family and will always be , the chance i have been givven to be one of this company is a big honor for me .
OUR GROUP Supervisors, head management , crew schedule staff, captains,
F/officers/flight Engeneers: Instructors,Flight attendants are the greatest peaple I have Known
My greatest thaughts to any one that had worked from 1981 to 1991.
and my best wishes for everyone who is working until now with Saudia
You did the best choice in Working with such a Great Airline
Saudi Arabian Airlines
Ex F/A Tounsi Raja Payroll n° 3002623
to fly VIP Flights and experience the greatest and the most fabulious jets ever seen, Saudia city is a great compound equiped with all the facilities , everything is supplied , Saudia was my family and will always be , the chance i have been givven to be one of this company is a big honor for me .
OUR GROUP Supervisors, head management , crew schedule staff, captains,
F/officers/flight Engeneers: Instructors,Flight attendants are the greatest peaple I have Known
My greatest thaughts to any one that had worked from 1981 to 1991.
and my best wishes for everyone who is working until now with Saudia
You did the best choice in Working with such a Great Airline
Saudi Arabian Airlines
Ex F/A Tounsi Raja Payroll n° 3002623
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Pay
Let me see if this is right- you are paid salary and the hourly rate ($94ish for min A320 captain), or is it salary and 10% of the hourly rate actually flown. Just trying to understand. Anyone have a real life example... How much overtime is really flown?
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Falcon --> SV Airline side
Mutt,
Thank you very much for your kind answer. I prefer the Falcon, too. Is it ok for you to clear followings?
1. Moving from the Falcon to the SV Airline side: As you said, it is not open to the non-national. That means, if SV has vacancy on their airline side(ie: A320, B777), the Falcon pilot has to apply to the position without any in-house advantages?
2. How many hours do the Falcon/Hawker pilots fly a month, typically? Compared to the airline side pilot, do they fly more or less?
3. Does 24 stand-by duties means 24 DAYS in stand-by?
4. The monthly salary is a sum of Base Salary plus Non-base Salary(guaranteed flying pay...). Is my understanding correct?
5. Requirements to get upgrade from Falcon/Hawker F/O to same equipment Capt?
Once again, I appreciate in advance!!
Thank you very much for your kind answer. I prefer the Falcon, too. Is it ok for you to clear followings?
1. Moving from the Falcon to the SV Airline side: As you said, it is not open to the non-national. That means, if SV has vacancy on their airline side(ie: A320, B777), the Falcon pilot has to apply to the position without any in-house advantages?
2. How many hours do the Falcon/Hawker pilots fly a month, typically? Compared to the airline side pilot, do they fly more or less?
3. Does 24 stand-by duties means 24 DAYS in stand-by?
4. The monthly salary is a sum of Base Salary plus Non-base Salary(guaranteed flying pay...). Is my understanding correct?
5. Requirements to get upgrade from Falcon/Hawker F/O to same equipment Capt?
Once again, I appreciate in advance!!
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Bo,
You would get your base salary.
+ 10% of actual block flown.
+ 10% of actual block flown at night.
Then if you were to surpass 70 hours of actual credit in the month you would get the total of those hours at your hourly rate.
Example:
50 block hours with a total of 75 credit for the month. (Deadheads, sit time, standby duty, etc). 20 of those hours were at night.
Basic salary
+5 hours of pay for actual block (50 X 10%)
+2 hours of pay for night (20 X 10%)
+5 hours of pay for Overtime (75 actual credit - 70 guarantee)
Total for the month = 82 hours
Don't count on getting a lot of overtime. Sometimes it is there, sometimes it isn't. With a new aircraft, there would probably be a lot for the first year or so then it would start to dry up.
You would get your base salary.
+ 10% of actual block flown.
+ 10% of actual block flown at night.
Then if you were to surpass 70 hours of actual credit in the month you would get the total of those hours at your hourly rate.
Example:
50 block hours with a total of 75 credit for the month. (Deadheads, sit time, standby duty, etc). 20 of those hours were at night.
Basic salary
+5 hours of pay for actual block (50 X 10%)
+2 hours of pay for night (20 X 10%)
+5 hours of pay for Overtime (75 actual credit - 70 guarantee)
Total for the month = 82 hours
Don't count on getting a lot of overtime. Sometimes it is there, sometimes it isn't. With a new aircraft, there would probably be a lot for the first year or so then it would start to dry up.
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chk5511.....
1: For the sake of planning and your sanity, there is NO movement between corporate and line! Dont think otherwise, and never even dream of the 777/787, they dont/wont have foreign FO's. You must remember that this airline is 90% Saudi crew.
2: Hawker is a new fleet with only 1 of the 6 aircraft sitting on the apron, so its not flying. Falcon depends on the owners requirements, it operates FAR91 so no duty time
3: It means 24 hours per day and a shared number of days per month.
4: The figure that i quoted is what you get without ever leaving your house or doing standby duty, i dont really understand what you mean by guaranteed flying pay.
5: The command path presently involves the airline, but that is getting cut, so i would expect to see F900 FO to Hawker Capt.... at some stage
.......Sounds like eutopia Pity it doesnt exist today, whilst there are some awesome individuals, there are also enough rotten apples to spoil you day 
Mutt.
(Metro, you are about to see a lot of new faces on the 1st floor..)
1: For the sake of planning and your sanity, there is NO movement between corporate and line! Dont think otherwise, and never even dream of the 777/787, they dont/wont have foreign FO's. You must remember that this airline is 90% Saudi crew.
2: Hawker is a new fleet with only 1 of the 6 aircraft sitting on the apron, so its not flying. Falcon depends on the owners requirements, it operates FAR91 so no duty time
3: It means 24 hours per day and a shared number of days per month.
4: The figure that i quoted is what you get without ever leaving your house or doing standby duty, i dont really understand what you mean by guaranteed flying pay.
5: The command path presently involves the airline, but that is getting cut, so i would expect to see F900 FO to Hawker Capt.... at some stage
OUR GROUP Supervisors, head management , crew schedule staff, captains, F/officers/flight Engeneers: Instructors,Flight attendants are the greatest peaple I have Known
Pity it doesnt exist today, whilst there are some awesome individuals, there are also enough rotten apples to spoil you day Mutt.
(Metro, you are about to see a lot of new faces on the 1st floor..
)
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Hawker & Falcon 7X
Many thanks, Mutt & Metro301!!
1. Salary: I thought the salary is, Base Salary + Flying Pay(Guaranteed 65 hours pay + Productivity/Night allowance + etc). Some companies have such pay system. With data shown on the SV web, it was too hard to figure how much TOTAL I am putting in my pocket each month.
2. Do you have any info when SV's ordered Falcon 7X will be arriving? And when SV is going to start to screen the candidates for those equipments(Hawker 400XP & Falcon 7X)?
Have a nice day!!
chk5511
1. Salary: I thought the salary is, Base Salary + Flying Pay(Guaranteed 65 hours pay + Productivity/Night allowance + etc). Some companies have such pay system. With data shown on the SV web, it was too hard to figure how much TOTAL I am putting in my pocket each month.
2. Do you have any info when SV's ordered Falcon 7X will be arriving? And when SV is going to start to screen the candidates for those equipments(Hawker 400XP & Falcon 7X)?
Have a nice day!!
chk5511
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Can't Make contact
Hi,
I managed to make my online application and I received an E-Mail requesting Documents, however I cannot log in, the E-Mail with the login details is not correct and there are no contact details on the website, does anybody have an E-Mail address for any of the program administrator's any help would be great. Thanks
GD
I managed to make my online application and I received an E-Mail requesting Documents, however I cannot log in, the E-Mail with the login details is not correct and there are no contact details on the website, does anybody have an E-Mail address for any of the program administrator's any help would be great. Thanks
GD
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Interview travel arrangements
Hi Folks,
Please advise if anyone has actually recieved travel arrangements to Cairo for the 29 June, interview slots. Still waiting here...
Thanks
Please advise if anyone has actually recieved travel arrangements to Cairo for the 29 June, interview slots. Still waiting here...
Thanks
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I received my confirmation today. I am going to interview on the 30th. In my email I was instructed to buy a y-class ticket and I would be reimbursed in Cairo. I am traveling from San Diego and the ticket is $6,000. I cannot buy a $6,000 ticket even if I am going to be reimbursed. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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No reimbursement in Cairo
I had to buy myself a ticket for the end of May interview. Luckily it was cheap.
But when I told the interviewers in Cairo that I was told that I would get reimbursed in Cairo they said: "no no, you will be reimbursed when you come to Jeddah".
I am just passing on my experience, it maybe different for others. Just wanted to share that.
I would talk to Bilal before spending 6 grand on a ticket to Cairo.
But when I told the interviewers in Cairo that I was told that I would get reimbursed in Cairo they said: "no no, you will be reimbursed when you come to Jeddah".
I am just passing on my experience, it maybe different for others. Just wanted to share that.
I would talk to Bilal before spending 6 grand on a ticket to Cairo.
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$6000..... are they crazy? I would seriously doubt that you would get reimbursed in Cairo, the company just doesnt work that way! I would be extremely careful about incurring personal expenses with a view to getting reimbursed!
Write to them and say that you cant afford it! Ask them to issue a ticket! Even if you have to get to JFK/IAD and get on SVA!
Mutt
Write to them and say that you cant afford it! Ask them to issue a ticket! Even if you have to get to JFK/IAD and get on SVA!
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Hi Mutt,
I just received the same email.
I am suppose to leave tomorrow morning for my interview on June 28! I cant afford 6-7 grand either!
I emailed Bilal and told him I could not put that on my credit card!
What is going on?
I just received the same email.
I am suppose to leave tomorrow morning for my interview on June 28! I cant afford 6-7 grand either!
I emailed Bilal and told him I could not put that on my credit card!
What is going on?
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Not to get off track but Al-Wafeer just asked me to buy a ticket to KUL to be reimbursed at the interview. Seems to be the coming hook. A friend had to do the same for an interview with a Chinese airline too.
Good Luck to all.
Cheers, VP
Good Luck to all.
Cheers, VP
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Kudos to the helpers. They have been doing what they can for no reward, which is a big ticket in my book. Mutt, Metro et al, cheers n beers. And I MEAN beers.
In the meantime: Time critical, need to make a decision. Re-read life's notes. Compressed time horizons precede errors. Learn to buy time. Expand the time horizon, don't compress it. Reassess options. Buy yourself time, not tickets. Tough call, but just don't go. Call it a day. Look elsewhere. That's not a message of protest. Thinking so would be a mistake. You buy that ticket and sure as I'm typing this they'll have seen that puppy comin'. I'm out. Cheers, and beers.
PS The Chinese job advert said straight up you'd be buying your ticket. There's a difference, and it isn't subtle.
In the meantime: Time critical, need to make a decision. Re-read life's notes. Compressed time horizons precede errors. Learn to buy time. Expand the time horizon, don't compress it. Reassess options. Buy yourself time, not tickets. Tough call, but just don't go. Call it a day. Look elsewhere. That's not a message of protest. Thinking so would be a mistake. You buy that ticket and sure as I'm typing this they'll have seen that puppy comin'. I'm out. Cheers, and beers.
PS The Chinese job advert said straight up you'd be buying your ticket. There's a difference, and it isn't subtle.
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re: no reimbursement in Cairo
KP21...Thanks for sharing your experience, were you ever payed back, where are you now in the grand scheme of SV interviewland?
Mutt, Metro, Sincerest thanks. You have been great guides.
Did anyone who recently interviewed in Cairo, actually have travel arrangements made and tickets provided for this process??
My Interview date is also now the 30th, hypothetically if one is not successful at interview, who pays ticket home, and or the RT fare?, I can see that conversation with the SV HR team as rather thorny...
Just my 2 pennys...
Thanks again to all,
Sushi
Mutt, Metro, Sincerest thanks. You have been great guides.
Did anyone who recently interviewed in Cairo, actually have travel arrangements made and tickets provided for this process??
My Interview date is also now the 30th, hypothetically if one is not successful at interview, who pays ticket home, and or the RT fare?, I can see that conversation with the SV HR team as rather thorny...
Just my 2 pennys...
Thanks again to all,
Sushi