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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 12:08
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Is the atmosphere in the right seat B777 really that bad?
No, generally is pretty good. Lots of hours and $$$'s. Better than a lot of places.
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 13:26
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Excellent Posts !!

@ Saudi Expat.

Very informative and generously excellent posts sir.
Keep up the good work and please keep this accurate information coming.
Cheers
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 14:48
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These will likely be short-lived positions
After 20 years of operating for SVA, i thought that Air Atlanta was a subsidiary

They have at least 30 leased aircraft so it will take a few years to get rid of them if the desire exists!
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 16:20
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Air Atlanta

In fact Air Atlanta costs Saudia less than its ownv fleet. Salaries of the crews are way much lower because are based on productivity and Air Atlanta's crews rarely fly more than 450h a year. On top of that make sure that those agreements between Air Atlanta and Saudia make some people happy.and i am not talking for Air Atlanta financial department
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Commuting and Remuneration

Gentlemen,

Just wondering if you could confirm or dispel some rumours floating around. I have an assessment lined up in February for a widebody left seat position. it would be an attractive move if the following rumour were confirmed:

* Commuting rosters with a total of 11 days off in a row a month being provided.

Also, could someone actually confirm the remuneration in-hand every month with a regular block of flying. I have the sheet that is provided with the application but getting different numbers from different sources. The actual amount every month would be very helpful.

I would appreciate any information that you can provide on the company, remuneration and ability to commute would be very beneficial. Thank you in advanace for your replies.

Cheers,
AC100.

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Old 3rd Jan 2016, 05:24
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@ac100

1) commuting roster with eleven days off? NOT A CHANCE! 5 days off per month is the max .

2) Honestly dont worry about your salary .Saudia is among the top payers in the industry. Easily u gonna make double from a skipper in EK
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Old 3rd Jan 2016, 05:33
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Alloa,

Thanks again for all the info......anybody can reveal the average monthly flight hours left seat B777.

Am sure it will be less than the 90+ of EK
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Old 3rd Jan 2016, 06:42
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Average hours

An average line has 72-75h per month plus 3-4 days of reserve. During the Offseason you may never get a flighy during reserve. During high season you ll get a line of 80h and you will fly during your reserve days so you can reach 90-95 even 100 hours. But 100h in saudia are heavily paid.
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Old 3rd Jan 2016, 07:33
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AC100- If you were to take 11 days in a row off in a month using medical or vacation then your net salary would be the basic which is 36,000 SAR, around $9,500.


Alloha- I think you're joking about Saudia skippers being paid better than EK, you're obviously not familiar with their full benefits and profit sharing package. EK skippers can make comfortably 90,000 SAR if you break down all the components of their contract. Unlike Saudia, that is not particularly fleet dependant. At Saudia, A330, 747 and now probably 787 guys are netting around 70% of what you can net on the 777. Going forward recruitment will be for the A330, I think that you have to be very lucky to come from the outside now and go onto the 777.
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Old 3rd Jan 2016, 15:24
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Profit sharing package is an extra 12% of EK contribution. Starting salary is a bit more than SV salary and they get overtime when they go above92H .there is no way to pocket more then 55K AED .they get a house we get a house. Not to mention the cost of living in DXB. I am well aware of their figures i have close friends and lots of them are looking for something else. Some EK skippers joined SV in the last year and the reason was salary.

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Thank you

Gentlemen,

Thank you for all your input and information provided, it has been very useful. I would only be interested in the B777 and if all hiring is now on the A330 it would not be worthwhile attending at this stage.

Once again, thank you for all the information thus far.

Cheers,
AC100.
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Old 6th Jan 2016, 10:49
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Does anybody know when will be the next B777 FO intake?
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Old 6th Jan 2016, 12:45
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777 FO Intake

not possible in the next 12-18 months. Only 2 frames to be delivered in 2016
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Old 6th Jan 2016, 16:36
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How about A330 FO hiring?
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Old 7th Jan 2016, 15:04
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Eleven 773's coming this year Alloha, all but one arriving from July onwards.
Positions on those all taken courtesy of MAS (their 777 fleet doing a David Copperfield from Feb!) and SV internal movements, so 777s vacancies not there now until much latter & all newbies onto Airbus as was previously mentioned above.
Ten 333 coming from August and four 32neos from Nov.
Two new sims inbound to the Academy courtesy of CAE (see Dubai Airshow releases), a 773 & 787...when the room is available
Happy Landings
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Old 8th Jan 2016, 07:17
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Some people are speaking about a meeting ( yesterday or the day before ) regarding the commuting. I haven't heard or received any emails. Is it a fantasy ? ( again haha )
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Old 8th Jan 2016, 07:55
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Eleven 773's coming this year Alloha
Where are they coming from? AK30 is the last one shown on the Boeing site.
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Old 9th Jan 2016, 08:16
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RUH base

@fireball 23. Yeap the meeting took place in RUH but hold your horses. 20-10 is not an option at the moment and there is nit a chance for setting this base before next year at least. No accommodation so far. Basically it was an exchange of opinions etc etc. Big disappointment for lots of expats. Not even a 22-8 is an option.normal lines as per JED based FDC

@mutt i got the same question with you but i show the email with the delivery dates and the registration numbers. All of them to be delivered within the next 14 months.
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Old 10th Jan 2016, 08:09
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Thank you for the informations Alloha !
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Old 18th Jan 2016, 02:23
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E-170s extended?

I heard from a reliable source that the E-170s are being extended. Does anyone know for how long?
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