Gulf Air Developments
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How many A330s from MEA did Gulf Air already receive? There was some info a while ago that one of them would be in special F1 livery. Will this be ready for the upcoming F1 tournament?
By the way will there again be a special F1 flying programme over the race track again?
rgds Stefan
By the way will there again be a special F1 flying programme over the race track again?
rgds Stefan
Well folks, I have just travelled economy class to Bahrain on GF543/20 Apr, and I was pleasantly surprised by the experience.
I think it was one of the new(er) 320's and it looked very smart inside. The cabin crew were excellent and seemed to get on well with each other which always makes a difference.
It wasn't a taxing flight for them as the load was very very light, but that gave them the chance to be in the cabin making the few guests feel good..
It is probably 18 months + since I last flew GF, and I noticed a difference. Maybe I just got lucky with this crew and a/c, but I hope not.
I think it was one of the new(er) 320's and it looked very smart inside. The cabin crew were excellent and seemed to get on well with each other which always makes a difference.
It wasn't a taxing flight for them as the load was very very light, but that gave them the chance to be in the cabin making the few guests feel good..
It is probably 18 months + since I last flew GF, and I noticed a difference. Maybe I just got lucky with this crew and a/c, but I hope not.
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It's in the GDN so it MUST be true
Gulf Air cancels lease
Gulf Daily News » Business News » Gulf Air cancels lease
Looks like GF have 6 months to get the A340's up to sctratch, large duct tape order ????
Gulf Air cancels lease
Gulf Daily News » Business News » Gulf Air cancels lease
Looks like GF have 6 months to get the A340's up to sctratch, large duct tape order ????
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Funny how a country in turmoil like Lebanon can buy brand new and own all its fleet, common rate it by type and a wealthy stable country like BAH cannot even make a decision about what colour duct tape first class seats should adorned with!!
Who would have thought GF would be leasing MEA's left overs 5 years ago?
How the wheel turns. GF's strategy is as clear as muddy water. What a shame for a once excellent carrier.
Oddy
Who would have thought GF would be leasing MEA's left overs 5 years ago?
How the wheel turns. GF's strategy is as clear as muddy water. What a shame for a once excellent carrier.
Oddy
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@ODMEA: they are not MEA left over - They are ILFC and got leased to MEA for 8 years - now the contract expired so GF took them .. MEA leased their planes not all but some of them!
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Gulf Air Has Ideas NoT Plans......
Gulf Air clarifies on lease deal
Manama: Tue, 21 Apr 2009
Gulf Air, Bahrain’s national carrier, today clarified that the airline has decided not pursue the dry lease option under its Boeing 777 lease agreement with Jet Airways.
The airline said the clarification was in response to some media reports stating that Gulf Air has cancelled its Boeing 777 lease agreement with Jet Airways.
“The lease agreement signed between Jet Airways and Gulf Air was for an initial period of 6 months on a wet lease. Some coverage has claimed that the decision to continue with a dry lease after the 6 month wet lease has been cancelled. This is not correct as no such agreement existed,” said a Gulf Air statement.
“Under the terms of the current agreement, Gulf Air has an option to sign a new agreement for a dry lease after the expiration of the wet lease but this was subject to several business considerations including market conditions. After careful analysis of various commercial and other business considerations, Gulf Air has decided not to pursue the dry lease option for the foreseeable future,” it said. –TradeArabia News Service
Manama: Tue, 21 Apr 2009
Gulf Air, Bahrain’s national carrier, today clarified that the airline has decided not pursue the dry lease option under its Boeing 777 lease agreement with Jet Airways.
The airline said the clarification was in response to some media reports stating that Gulf Air has cancelled its Boeing 777 lease agreement with Jet Airways.
“The lease agreement signed between Jet Airways and Gulf Air was for an initial period of 6 months on a wet lease. Some coverage has claimed that the decision to continue with a dry lease after the 6 month wet lease has been cancelled. This is not correct as no such agreement existed,” said a Gulf Air statement.
“Under the terms of the current agreement, Gulf Air has an option to sign a new agreement for a dry lease after the expiration of the wet lease but this was subject to several business considerations including market conditions. After careful analysis of various commercial and other business considerations, Gulf Air has decided not to pursue the dry lease option for the foreseeable future,” it said. –TradeArabia News Service
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B787's
I just checked the Boeing web site and it shows Gulf Air has placed an order
for 8 787's. I don't know if they were already reported, but sounds like good news for
you guys.
BDD
for 8 787's. I don't know if they were already reported, but sounds like good news for
you guys.
BDD
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Propellor & boilermaker, you guys really are so arrogant & sure of yourselves. I re-state that I HAVE operated the A330 MNL-BAH. GF 157 during 2007. So boiler I suggest that you check your extensive data-base. I guess you guys must reside upstairs somewhere & have some totally inconsequential & ridiculous long winded self impoartant titles. Maybe you should leave the operational discussion to people that at least have an inkling of an idea about aviation.
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Boeing just requested to Gulf Air to publish again what was published last year. This is just for political and marketing reasons since all aircraft manufacturers are facing cancellations from everywhere.
The Boeing order comprises 24 787, at the beginning it was 16 confirmed plus 8 options which eventually became confirmed.
For 2009 is very unlikely for Gulf Air to receive any extra airplane apart from 4 A330 (1 from XL, brand new and 3 from MEA) and 5 A320 (4 for replacement and 1 to be added to the fleet).
The Boeing order comprises 24 787, at the beginning it was 16 confirmed plus 8 options which eventually became confirmed.
For 2009 is very unlikely for Gulf Air to receive any extra airplane apart from 4 A330 (1 from XL, brand new and 3 from MEA) and 5 A320 (4 for replacement and 1 to be added to the fleet).
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Mephistopheles, I stand corrected. Although I should add that after talking to Airbus people, while the A330 may reach MNL will full pax load, it will have payload restrictions for cargo. The new A330-200s with a higher MTOW (about 3 tons as I understand it) has an even better range than the 'older' A330s-200s.
Now let me correct you if I may as I do not work for GF so I do not work upstairs anywhere.
Now let me correct you if I may as I do not work for GF so I do not work upstairs anywhere.
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The B777 is a great aircraft and has better economics than the A340. The problem as I see it (I could be wrong) is that it is was too expensive to incur all the costs involved with dry-leasing the aircraft (spares, training, etc..) for only 3 years. Unless GF was prepared to keep this fleet or order B777 to replace the 9W aircraft once they were gone, it was a losing proposition.
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New 320
- CFM wins $270m Gulf Air order
Gulf Air has placed a $270m order for CFM International's CFM56-5B engines to power 15 new Airbus A320 aircraft, to be delivered between late 2009 and 2013. The airline also signed a $100m, 10-year repair, maintenance and overhaul contract with GE Aviation for the new engines. - Bahrain: 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
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This airline is so full of sh@t its crazy. All you guys made such a big fuss over these B777's and I hate to say this but I told you so that they were such a big carrot and you guys were suckered into thinking that someday you will actually fly them.
GF is CHEAP, it allways was and allways will be. The sheik boys will never spend their hard earned dinars on toys someone else will play with. When will you boys actually understand this.
Have fun with some more A320's and if you think that some day you may fly the B787 I have one thing to say and remember it. IT WILL NOT BE WITH GF
PS
Ironbutthead
Please refrain from being a complete management ki$$a$$
The other issue much talked about here is the CEO. No, Mr. H.A. (Pizza face's best mate) will never get the job, you know why? Because the boy is a Sheite, he may be fine for India (even there he's middle management) but in BAH he just cannot cut it. Simple
No way a Sheite will get a top job like that. Sends the wrong signal to the masses. Sheites can go as far as middle management but if they have plans for higher up the corporate ladder then they are dreaming. Frankly I agree with it totally.
GF is CHEAP, it allways was and allways will be. The sheik boys will never spend their hard earned dinars on toys someone else will play with. When will you boys actually understand this.
Have fun with some more A320's and if you think that some day you may fly the B787 I have one thing to say and remember it. IT WILL NOT BE WITH GF
PS
Ironbutthead
Please refrain from being a complete management ki$$a$$
The other issue much talked about here is the CEO. No, Mr. H.A. (Pizza face's best mate) will never get the job, you know why? Because the boy is a Sheite, he may be fine for India (even there he's middle management) but in BAH he just cannot cut it. Simple
No way a Sheite will get a top job like that. Sends the wrong signal to the masses. Sheites can go as far as middle management but if they have plans for higher up the corporate ladder then they are dreaming. Frankly I agree with it totally.
Last edited by Capt Hair Y Balls; 29th Apr 2009 at 19:03.