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Old 3rd Jul 2009, 12:23
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No thats bollox boiler, the GF 321s do have centre tanks.
Wings tanks approx 6080kg*2
Centre tank 6430kg
= total approx 18600kg.
then what seems to be the problem?

btw Ive flown GF's A 321 BAH-DXB in economy class in April and found the seating to be quite comfortable.

They use the A 321s on BAH-BOM, BAH-DEL, BAH-IRAN and BAH-DXB/DMM flights usually.

Also, I hope that this order for 20 A 333s made at Farnborough last year will not be entirely for A 333s as GF doesnt need such a big aircraft for many of its medium/long haul routes.

3 class A 333s are ideal to replace the A 343s / A 332s on LON (GF7/2 only), FRA (GF 16/17 only), CAI, JED, CDG (GF 18/19 only) and RUH only. Where as a 2 class A 332 (seating 260 passengers) is ideal for LHE, ISB, DAC, KTM, BKK, KUL, MNL, BOM, DEL, PEW, KHI flights.

Lets hope that the new CEO from RJ can bring in some positive development to the airline. One must have patience as it will take at least 2 years minimum to see the initial impact that his policies/decisions would have on the airline's overall performance and brand building.
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Old 3rd Jul 2009, 12:32
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Could the Dash 8-Q400 and ERJ 195 be good options for short range ops like in RJA?

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Old 3rd Jul 2009, 14:58
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Dont think RJ thought the Q400 was that good an option as they got rid of them quite quickly, the E190 though maybe.....they just look very placky, but whatever works.
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I dont understand how this is possible with GF as many airlines use the A 321 on 5 hour long flights with a full payload of pax + cargo. How is it that GF can only use this aircraft on 3 and half hour missions?
Because they went for the 'cheap' option of leasing 2 old retired RJ 321-100s. The range of the -100 is actually less than 320, however the new and improved 321-200s have more fuel carried in two optional ACTs. Their engines are also upgraded I believe.

The 100s had option of 'ACTs but the GF ones certainly don't have them installed. Of course the drawback with the ACTs is you loose cargo space...

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The PPRuNe Effect!

Congrats GF mates!

This is really amazing. The news about the newly appointed CEO has spread just like wild fires. For many good reasons, I can understand why this was not intended to be officially revealed to the media at this time at all. But after the info has leaked out into PPRuNe, top decision makers couldn't keep it for themselves any longer and were put under significant pressure to make the official announcement. So now I know for sure that you guys have played the influencer game in a way or another! AND YES, the guys in the pink palace and elsewhere up on the ladder follow the thread here regularly!

As the guys here have said earlier, GF needs every little ray of hope at this stage. And I believe that the new CEO has accepted the challenge. Let's be optimistic for a while!!

Right now, the debate is how would the guy run the place?! Is he going to work on his own or may be he is going to bring on his good fellows?!

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Not to go off the new CEO subject, but could someone please post F/O payscales with housing allowances.
Thanks and Congrats to all the GF pilots.
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Old 5th Jul 2009, 17:07
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flyby71Not to go off the new CEO subject, but could someone please post F/O payscales with housing allowances.
Thanks and Congrats to all the GF pilots.

This subject have bean posted so many times, if you search you will find so many in pprune.
good luck
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Old 6th Jul 2009, 03:28
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Didn't RJ just make a huge loss after some poor fuel hedging decisions under this CEO?

From AME info: May 2009


Following a poor first quarter Royal Jordanian's net loss has almost doubled to $12 million (JD8.5m) compared to a loss of $6.2m (JD4.4m) for the same period last year.

The loss was coupled with an 11% decrease in revenues to $174.9m (JD124m) from $194.6m (JD138m). The airline cited a decline in passenger numbers and cargo tonnage.

Yield per passenger also declined by 5% in the first quarter of 2009, compared to the same period of last year, as a result of the decrease in the demand on travel and the sharp competition the airline is facing with the full-service and the low-cost carriers.

Chief executive Samer Al Majali said that RJ aircraft carried 491,000 passengers compared to 553,000 passengers carried in the first quarter of last year. This represents a load factor of 62% compared to 68% last year. Cargo tonnage also decreased by 32%.

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I imagine the GF board would be ecstatic if they only lost US$12M in a quarter rather than (currently) just about evey week!
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Didn't RJ just make a huge loss after some poor fuel hedging decisions under this CEO?
Well, I seem to remember that Michael O'Leary got it wrong as well, does that make him a poor decision maker? Maybe it does in this respect, however like him or not, he has done, and is still doing a pretty good job with Ryan Air. In other words Mr. Majali certainly was not alone on the fuel hedging front, in fact wasn't BA in the same boat?
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So did Southwest...they all did..better luck playing "Uno" on facebook...
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Oh I don't know, Air Arabia made record profits over the same period!
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Southwest pays corporate taxes Air Arabia does not please dont compare.
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Look guys, this extremely rich Saudi asked his three son's what they wanted for the rapidly approaching festive period. Number one asked for his own shop, so Dad bought him..........Harrods. Number two asked for his own, new trainset, so Dad bought him....Amtrack. Number three said that he still loved those ole black & white TV westerns, and, so, could he have a new Cowboy outfit (?). So, Dad bought him............GULFAIR !
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Very, very old joke (still funny).
Last heard in the UK with cowboy outfit being AustinRover, and looked what happened to them!
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sorry

ummmmmm liked the joke but it took me some time to understand it!nice joke hope you have more
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You asked for it!

A Saudi, a Swiss and a Canadian were flying Business class to somewhere in Europe when someone asked the question:

"Is sex work or is it pleasure?"

The Canadian says "a bit of both, as you get out of it what you put into it"

The Swiss says "I think it is equal as well"

The Saudi says "you are both mistaken, it is most definitely all pleasure, as if it involved any work at all I would have a Indian doing it!"
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ehem

lets get back to the topic.no matter what it takes GF should not give back their 777s.Trust me iv traveled in all of GFs aircraft and they all seem as if im traveling in a 3rd world airline.The thing which will put GF to the top again is giving gulf air a face lift.The service is exactly the same as emirates but he cabin not so much.(exaggerated about the 3rd world thing)The cabin seemed cleaner this month! ( as in the seats weren't that broken up)does that have to do with the new maintenance company?
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Absolutely not
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Are the ILFC A330 airframes KG/KH/KI integrated and flying yet ?

I'd imagine they have new refurbished interiors, but so far,no trace of them airliner photography websites.
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