Gulf Air Developments
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I think my question would be why the need for a new livery for an airline that only had the last one five years ago. Particularly when the company is losing potloads of money. Don't see the logic. A new livery is not going to gain the airline one dinar of new business.
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All I know is that they are cutting schedules like crazy. I'm rostered for 48 hours this month after having an IST and another sequence removed from the schedule. All of a sudden they have an abundance of flight crew.
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@ wapses:
This is Gulf Air, currently being runned without a clear plan or strategy, or as we say in Arabic 'masheya ala ilbaraka'. Besides the new livery one might ask whats the use of leasing new aircraft during these tough economical times, and with rumors about stopping services to some destinations?
Not needing to mention their latest blunder with the retirement benefits. Thats their way of dealing with the financial crisis, and saying thank you to those long serving employees who helped in building the company and gave it the strong reputation during its golden days.
I personally like the old Balenciaga uniforms, and the old cabin colours and designs at least -especially those designs on the cabin partitions represented the Gulf identity. The current f, j, and y seats are great but issues with the colours, especially the y cabin turquoise, grey, with the golden carpets, that too much for our eyes.
This is Gulf Air, currently being runned without a clear plan or strategy, or as we say in Arabic 'masheya ala ilbaraka'. Besides the new livery one might ask whats the use of leasing new aircraft during these tough economical times, and with rumors about stopping services to some destinations?
Not needing to mention their latest blunder with the retirement benefits. Thats their way of dealing with the financial crisis, and saying thank you to those long serving employees who helped in building the company and gave it the strong reputation during its golden days.
I personally like the old Balenciaga uniforms, and the old cabin colours and designs at least -especially those designs on the cabin partitions represented the Gulf identity. The current f, j, and y seats are great but issues with the colours, especially the y cabin turquoise, grey, with the golden carpets, that too much for our eyes.
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Gf should not change the Livery just yet, It took 5 whole years just to build that reputation.
By them changing the look, nothing will change. The service won't be better and the load factor will never change.
I understand why they are leasing new aircraft, but to me it seems like they are not "showing off" there new aircraft. They are not adding pictures to the gulf air website, no advertising.
There are many factors that GF need to look into, and like most of you said it looks like its just small talk to try and keep most people happy.
If i was in charge of Gf i would have changed it totaly, I mean aircraft, Seating , Service and staff attitude.
They need to build a strong customer base, there's is currently shattered! Bad reviews on the internet need to be changed (Maybe they should email the posters to try and sort the issues out! or threaten to take legal action and see them disappear like most companies do).
The problem is for the past years, Gf has been seen as the last option. Worst service and you should only fly with them if you HAVE TO.
I have suggested so much to the CEO, I dont think he gets my emails or just bins them.
First it was the stupid sponsership of a team that is virtual unknown known in the UK.
I thought he would make it work, but since Bjorn Naf has left I am now well waiting.
By them changing the look, nothing will change. The service won't be better and the load factor will never change.
I understand why they are leasing new aircraft, but to me it seems like they are not "showing off" there new aircraft. They are not adding pictures to the gulf air website, no advertising.
There are many factors that GF need to look into, and like most of you said it looks like its just small talk to try and keep most people happy.
If i was in charge of Gf i would have changed it totaly, I mean aircraft, Seating , Service and staff attitude.
They need to build a strong customer base, there's is currently shattered! Bad reviews on the internet need to be changed (Maybe they should email the posters to try and sort the issues out! or threaten to take legal action and see them disappear like most companies do).
The problem is for the past years, Gf has been seen as the last option. Worst service and you should only fly with them if you HAVE TO.
I have suggested so much to the CEO, I dont think he gets my emails or just bins them.
First it was the stupid sponsership of a team that is virtual unknown known in the UK.
I thought he would make it work, but since Bjorn Naf has left I am now well waiting.
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And u guys wonder why ex loyal F clas pax with substantial 6 figure spend with this carrier (read me) ran - just chewed up and spat out by GF
Never again 'Tayaran el kha#@*' as many locals and expats came to know GF. Ask an Arabic speaking colleague for translation.
EY all the way for me
Never again 'Tayaran el kha#@*' as many locals and expats came to know GF. Ask an Arabic speaking colleague for translation.
EY all the way for me
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ODMEA I totaly understand. Just wait till you see the true EK customer support. Just as bad, There is no such thing as customer support in the Arab world. Its all Money money money.
Well thats what i think.
Well thats what i think.
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admitting the mistake should have been BEFORE they recently signed up for the 777. anyway as always, they will discontinue with the wetlease AFTER the market builds up again and when gf will then need the 777. idiots!!!!
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If I'm not mistaken, the B777s were brought in to replace the aging (not to mention obsolete) A343s. Now that the deal is off, does this mean GF has abandoned getting in new planes and will bring the old ones back? So much for WB fleet renewal. The new A330s (-200s and 300s) that GF has on order will not make it to places such as MNL. I wonder if anyone there has thought of this situation Then again, GF has shown a complete lack of forward vision so it seems Gf will have to abandon some of its long-haul flying in the near future.
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boilermaker,
"The new A330s (-200s and 300s) that GF has on order will not make it to places such as MNL."
I hope you are flying around on the A330 at the moment coz if you are then you really don't know your airplane. The A330 has done MNL & PVG.
Regarding th B777, I wonder if anyone is going to get axed for this fiasco!!!
"The new A330s (-200s and 300s) that GF has on order will not make it to places such as MNL."
I hope you are flying around on the A330 at the moment coz if you are then you really don't know your airplane. The A330 has done MNL & PVG.
Regarding th B777, I wonder if anyone is going to get axed for this fiasco!!!
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He was already fired - I heard the Finn was behind it ... Regarding A330, They have the legs to MNL & PVG however in FULL LOAD .. they can't do the return due to the range & winds 
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How true is it, i dont know but i heard today that GF got a better and cheaper deal from Boeing. Many orders were cancelled by other companies so they have 777s now that GF can buy. Plus it wont be leased but bought airplanes... I dont know the truth behind this...But if it is true then that wud have been a very smart move...