Gulf Air Developments
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I guess Sidestick Priority has deleted his BS post since he has been found out!!! I guess we should all keep an eye out for anymore posts from this s*** stirrer. All this guy wants is to sow panic amongst GF pilots & maybe get guys to leave again. I wonder if this d*** even works with us. Anyway thanks left_to_first_class for finding out this creep so quickly.
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Just not equipped, I guess.
Originally Posted by daviddea
Dude if you can not make a PA and maintain Turb. speed at the same time you really should pick a new occupation.
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Just about to get even worse if the thread about Bahrain seemingly becoming dry is true....not gonna get many westeners wanting to pop to bahrain on holiday if that happens are they?
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Sad to read that the Boeing 777's will be leaving Gulf Air so soon. I have heard many extremely positive and enthusiastic reviews from a number recent passengers who have obviously been impressed by the cabin features that we have been offering on these aircraft. These aircraft have had a much-needed positive impact on improving Gulf Air's product image.
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Look At That
Dear Gulf Air Family,
You may have seen many other airlines offering similar opportunities and wondered why not Gulf Air?
Well we are pleased to be able to offer our employees this opportunity effective immediately.
Maybe you would like to go and spend extended time with family overseas? Perhaps you would like to go and learn a new language or even take a more in-depth period of study? You might just want to spend time with the family, especially if you are a new parent. Or maybe you have always wanted to travel? Well now is your chance as today Gulf Air is pleased to offer an extended period of unpaid leave for eligible employees!
You may have seen many other airlines offering similar opportunities and wondered why not Gulf Air?
Well we are pleased to be able to offer our employees this opportunity effective immediately.
Maybe you would like to go and spend extended time with family overseas? Perhaps you would like to go and learn a new language or even take a more in-depth period of study? You might just want to spend time with the family, especially if you are a new parent. Or maybe you have always wanted to travel? Well now is your chance as today Gulf Air is pleased to offer an extended period of unpaid leave for eligible employees!
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I have in fact operated an A330 to MNL. So I guess now we should take all of your future comments with a pinch of salt. I wonder if you are even flightdeck with GF?
No, I'm afraid I am not one the GF flightdeck and never was.
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For those who lives in company accommodation it can be a good option extending their leaves but, imagine going for leave without any payment and having to pay a full rent! You can add an average of BHD700.00 expense on that month...
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Gosh! Look at the squabbling!
An A330-200 can operate to MNL from Bahrain, but to the best of my (and Boiler's) knowledge, it never has and never will.
The calculation is simple: one way, the flying time would be about 10 hours in winters. At approx 5 tonnes/hour, it would imply a fuel burn of 50 tonnes, and a total fuel uplift of about 55 tonnes.
With a MTOW of 230 tonnes, the ZFW would be restricted by the MZFW of 168 tonnes. Considering an empty weight of about 123 tonnes, it would allow a payload of only 45 tonnes. That is not entirely bad, but if the loads (pax and cargo) are high, then it may be restrictive, and that is the case of GFA. On an A340, the payload would be more, despite the additional burn off.
The A330-200 operation on this route could be a distinct possibility if there was an in-flight re-dispatch policy in effect. However, that needs a change in the mindset of everyone, including the pilots who fret about small things like making PAs.
I agree that the NTC for the PAs was written terribly, but I do not dispute the intent: we have to grow up as employees and as pilots, and realize that it is not Mumtalakat alone that is paying our salaries.
Poor language is becoming the norm for GFA - look at the fantastic (sic!) leave offer from the Banana! But if the CEO's writing is limited to his travel, (mock) travails and trivia, can you blame the poor secretaries drafting the NTC on behalf of the Operations management? The language was definitely most un-officer like!
Life goes on, we can whine (pun intended ) and dine, and tomorrow is another day!
An A330-200 can operate to MNL from Bahrain, but to the best of my (and Boiler's) knowledge, it never has and never will.
The calculation is simple: one way, the flying time would be about 10 hours in winters. At approx 5 tonnes/hour, it would imply a fuel burn of 50 tonnes, and a total fuel uplift of about 55 tonnes.
With a MTOW of 230 tonnes, the ZFW would be restricted by the MZFW of 168 tonnes. Considering an empty weight of about 123 tonnes, it would allow a payload of only 45 tonnes. That is not entirely bad, but if the loads (pax and cargo) are high, then it may be restrictive, and that is the case of GFA. On an A340, the payload would be more, despite the additional burn off.
The A330-200 operation on this route could be a distinct possibility if there was an in-flight re-dispatch policy in effect. However, that needs a change in the mindset of everyone, including the pilots who fret about small things like making PAs.
I agree that the NTC for the PAs was written terribly, but I do not dispute the intent: we have to grow up as employees and as pilots, and realize that it is not Mumtalakat alone that is paying our salaries.
Poor language is becoming the norm for GFA - look at the fantastic (sic!) leave offer from the Banana! But if the CEO's writing is limited to his travel, (mock) travails and trivia, can you blame the poor secretaries drafting the NTC on behalf of the Operations management? The language was definitely most un-officer like!
Life goes on, we can whine (pun intended ) and dine, and tomorrow is another day!
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Meph & Left to First,
I didnt remove my post, which to you is BS and hoax respectively. But the fact is the fact: income - expenses = profit. Industry experts said that income would be less (less pax, etc), so the only thing left in the equation is expenses which need to be reduced.
Take a look at the latest mail from Mr. Banana. If you had experience with furlough, some word/phrase is very familiar;
"As part of OUR efforts to reduce costs"
"to enable staff to take authorized periods of unpaid leave"
"If the position no longer exists due to restructuring / operational adjustment, the employee will be considered for redeployment through the GF Resource Pool, and reassigned to alternative positions of equivalent grade/skills base or made available to provide temporary cover elsewhere in GF"
"For unpaid leave of more than 3 months, Gulf Air is unable to guarantee return to the position originally held by the employee"
Go on and read for yourselves. It is not a positive news from my interpretation.
I didnt remove my post, which to you is BS and hoax respectively. But the fact is the fact: income - expenses = profit. Industry experts said that income would be less (less pax, etc), so the only thing left in the equation is expenses which need to be reduced.
Take a look at the latest mail from Mr. Banana. If you had experience with furlough, some word/phrase is very familiar;
VOLUNTARY UNPAID LEAVE – EXTENDED POLICY 2009
"As part of OUR efforts to reduce costs"
"to enable staff to take authorized periods of unpaid leave"
"If the position no longer exists due to restructuring / operational adjustment, the employee will be considered for redeployment through the GF Resource Pool, and reassigned to alternative positions of equivalent grade/skills base or made available to provide temporary cover elsewhere in GF"
"For unpaid leave of more than 3 months, Gulf Air is unable to guarantee return to the position originally held by the employee"
Go on and read for yourselves. It is not a positive news from my interpretation.
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Sidestick - most of us are aware that GF is in a hole, how big it is is open to debate. We will all do our bit at the end of the day but whether pilot or not we'll say our piece and get on with it.
I have heard from reliable sources that the year-on-year revenue results are shockingly poor for the first quarter of this year. Adding additional capacity (B777) is a fool's game hence their return. Costs are improving as fuel has come down considerably but losses are still being made (weren't they the same $1million per day AD talked about in his brief tenure?)
GF needs a serious reduction in HQ personnel but there has to be a political will to do this which to date GF hasn't had. The bored can't agree a strategy as it probably has to be signed off by the crown prince so hence decisions like the 777, lots of fanfare and then quietly removed.
I have heard from reliable sources that the year-on-year revenue results are shockingly poor for the first quarter of this year. Adding additional capacity (B777) is a fool's game hence their return. Costs are improving as fuel has come down considerably but losses are still being made (weren't they the same $1million per day AD talked about in his brief tenure?)
GF needs a serious reduction in HQ personnel but there has to be a political will to do this which to date GF hasn't had. The bored can't agree a strategy as it probably has to be signed off by the crown prince so hence decisions like the 777, lots of fanfare and then quietly removed.