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Old 27th Feb 2010, 19:45
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Heard the same thing.Even if it is just a rumour it wont be long before it becomes fact.I should think that most FOs worth their salt will be attending the EK road show and why not?The future really is looking bleak for GF.It would be interesting to see how many captains would go to EK if it was DECs they were looking for.I would be waiting in line for the doors to open.
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Old 27th Feb 2010, 19:55
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DEC positions opening up soon in Etihad. Emirates possibly the second half of 2010. So don't worry guys there are still plenty of options to get out of this doomed airline.
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Old 28th Feb 2010, 12:33
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flash back

GF is going through the same thing when Dose came.
reading between the lines, this time its more serious. from the sound of it, GF is closing shop very soon and they are just trying to buy as much time as possible. 4 330's and a handful of 320's and maybe a new debt free name is the way its going to be able to privatize it.

its such a shame to see this Airline die like this.

loosing its great people is a big blow.

Mr. Magary : GF employees have names and families and a great wealth of experience, their not just numbers as your dealing with them right now.

Shame on you.
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Old 1st Mar 2010, 04:47
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MP warns of 'mass resignations'

MANAMA: Bahrain's national carrier Gulf Air faces mass resignations by its pilots.

"There are 20 resignations submitted by pilots to the company to date," MP Shaikh Abdulhalim Murad claimed.

He said a rival airline company was benefiting from Gulf Air's woes and had interviewed its 46 pilots, describing the potential haemorrhage as a "real boon".

Shaikh Murad, who is also Gulf Air probe committee chairman, described the alleged mass resignations as tantamount to a "big crime". He also deplored what he called a "brain drain" which is bleeding the national carrier.

"Gulf Air is losing its best national competencies while corrupt gangs continue to thrive on public money," he said.

He also criticised "contradictory statements" issued by the government, the Economic Development Board (EDB) and Mumtalakat.

"Mumtalakat chief executive said Gulf Air would be transferred to the government before announcing that it would remain under the company's authority," he said.

He also cited the EDB chief executive's statement announcing the privatisation of the national carrier within a year although such plans were previously denied.

He blamed what he called a "mess" on "random policies and hasty decision-making". He also criticised the government for failing to co-operate with the probe committee.

"Sixty questions addressed to Finance Minister Shaikh Ahmed bin Mohammed Al Khalifa remain unanswered to date," he said.

Shaikh Murad accused the government of "procrastinating to gain more time", with two months left in the fourth legislative session.

He also accused Gulf Air officials of sowing fear among employees, speaking of the need for 1,500 lay-offs, the majority of whom are Bahrainis.
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Old 1st Mar 2010, 10:34
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not needing to mention some of the unjust decisions made like reducing the retirement benefits making them less useful especially for those employees who worked hard throughout their years in GF.
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Old 1st Mar 2010, 11:00
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not needing to mention some of the unjust decisions made like reducing the retirement benefits making them less useful especially for those employees who worked hard throughout their years in GF.
thas gulf air for you..the harder you work for the airline, the harder they will try to kick you out!
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Old 1st Mar 2010, 23:18
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not needing to mention some of the unjust decisions made like reducing the retirement benefit
Care to expand on that, maybe you know somethng we all don't?
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Old 2nd Mar 2010, 10:42
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@ Che Guevara
If u served with GF the required number of years u were entitled to:
Before:
10&11 staff:
2 id50 or 90 tickets on j and y classes
one foc ug to jc subject to availability
plus u r allowed to buy discounted tickets on other airlines which have reciprocal agreements with GF
ur children are not entitled to anything

12+ staff
UNLIMITED id 50 or 90 tickets in all cabins (FJY), spouses, and children till they reach 23 years
plus FOC tickets + discounted tickets on other airlines.

This old scheme was in itself unfair -as i said before- due to the huge gap in benefits between g11 and 12 staff

NOW:
G10 and 11 staff:
2 id 50 and 90 tickets on ECONOMY class only
and no upgrades on the FOC tickets

G12+
still get the unlimited id 50 and 90 tickets but only j and y classes.

So now the benefits scheme became more unfair, especially for grade 10 and 11 staff.

My suggestion is to go back to the original deal, or review the whole scheme again and make it more fairer. Instead of these huge gaps in benefits, there should be a gradual increase in these as the employee works his way up in the company.
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Old 2nd Mar 2010, 16:14
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Thanks for your explanation, I did not realize they had changed the ticketing entitlement for retired staff in such a way, not that this is a surprise these days sadly. However, it looks like first class is on it's way out anyway, if that's any consolation....
What I thought you were getting at was the end of service benefits which many are lookling at right now.

Cheers
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Old 2nd Mar 2010, 16:15
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Mass resignations

Source Arabian Business.com

Gulf Air facing mass pilot resignations - Transportation - ArabianBusiness.com
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Old 2nd Mar 2010, 17:01
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so whats new?
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What's new? Numbers. A lot of pilots.
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Old 2nd Mar 2010, 21:37
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question:
what reasons are there to remain in gulfair?

answer:

NON

everyone knows the indicator of a good airline is the retention of pilots. management would have you think otherwise.
when pilots continue to endure deteriorating conditions in a career that is increasingly unstable, unrewarding and abusive, is it such a surprise to see pilots flee in droves?
as a member of parliament has correctly stated, this level of mismanagement is tantamount to a criminal act. heads must roll from the very top, NOT FROM THE PILOTS RANKS.
there is no more excuses, gf management. the finger is pointing at you as the culprit to this airlines demise. CUTTING CREW NUMBERS simply will not do anymore to cover up your lack of strategy, lack of vision, lack of planning and general stupidity.

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Old 3rd Mar 2010, 11:49
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Flydubai has announced it will start double daily flights to Kuwait City and Muscat in March, bringing its total destinations to 13. Ghaith Al Ghaith, the carrier's CEO, said 'a strong GCC network is at the heart of flydubai's strategy in this region so Kuwait and Oman were natural choices as our next two destinations'. He also said 2010 would be 'a very busy year of route announcements for the carrier'.
could gulf air compete with jazeera, air arabia,bahrain air,fly dubai, nas air form ksa and fly sama.....
its pretty obvious if GF wants survive, the airline should try to aim for places away from the GCC for now..

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Old 5th Mar 2010, 06:18
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Gulf Air: Babyliners are Here?

So, the Babyliners are definitely on the way. In fact, probably arrived in BAH by now? Link:

Photos: Embraer ERJ-170-100AR 170AR Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 06:28
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Two for now, two early/mid summer, then???

"where's the head on the falcon?"
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 07:01
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Want a good laugh? Read the latest pointless drivel from Mr M on mygulfair.com

Do not assume that everything you read is fact unless it is a direct quote from an official Gulf Air a spokesperson or myself and more importantly don’t let rumour and speculation interfere with your focus.
It would be nice if we heard at least a tiny sqeak from Mr M more than twice a year. Otherwise we have nothing to go on but rumors.

...I will provide you with as much clarification and information as possible. The key to success for us as an organization is strong communication...
Maybe he should at least read what his secretary writes for him before sending it out or is he so blindingly arrogant that he can't imagine that all the rumours & BS being spread around are a direct result of HIS poor or lack of communication.
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 08:46
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'Head on the falcon'?

Symbolizes the headless chickens in the Pink Palace! Even the third floor realized that there was no 'head' and so they changed the title of all the 'Heads' to 'Senior Managers'.

(Actually a small one at the middle of the emblem - but it is hardly noticeble.)
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 10:26
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Not only does this negative publicity damage the company’s reputation....
damage to reputation? gf doesn't need any help in doing that all by itself. what about real damage to the company by crooks, managers, and ceos?

but now is the time for us to take back control of our reputation and question the motives of the people who constantly criticize us and what we are striving to achieve
there will never be control of reputation until all the crooks are weeded out, starting from the top. the only criticism pilots make are why our careers are being jeopardised by fatcat planners and unproductive overpaid managers?

Do not assume that everything you read is fact unless it is a direct quote from an official Gulf Air a spokesperson or myself and more importantly don’t let rumour and speculation interfere with your focus.
do you take us for idiots? we see what happens around us with our own eyes. we'll be the judge of that, you condescending prick, not the bullshiez propaganda that gf spins.

Each and everyone one of you is employed by Gulf Air because of the skills you offer that will help drive this airline forward to become an airline we can all be proud of, which is commercially sustainable and dynamic airline
ahh so they do recognize our skills....for now.....until there's too many of us.
nope, there is nothing....nothing to be proud of this airline!!! some would say 'but we're the oldest'. i say we have nothing to show for it.

I will continue to hold a bi-monthly majlis and provide updates via Hello Gulf Air to keep you informed on the latest news, developments and achievements of the airline.
don't ever speak your mind at the majlis. you will be singled out as an upstart, or you will be shut down immediately, or embarrassed. don't trust them for a moment because they will not reveal anything to you.
majali's only reason for this latest excuse of a letter is the embarrassment the media is causing him.
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 17:27
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The 2 E170 arrived today from Brazil after a 2 day delivery flight. They are sitting on the Tarmac pending press display on Monday. A9C-MA and A9C-MB for those who are interested.
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