Gulf Air Developments
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Heard the same thing.Even if it is just a rumour it wont be long before it becomes fact.I should think that most FOs worth their salt will be attending the EK road show and why not?The future really is looking bleak for GF.It would be interesting to see how many captains would go to EK if it was DECs they were looking for.I would be waiting in line for the doors to open.
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From: UAE
flash back
GF is going through the same thing when Dose came.
reading between the lines, this time its more serious. from the sound of it, GF is closing shop very soon and they are just trying to buy as much time as possible. 4 330's and a handful of 320's and maybe a new debt free name is the way its going to be able to privatize it.
its such a shame to see this Airline die like this.
loosing its great people is a big blow.
Mr. Magary : GF employees have names and families and a great wealth of experience, their not just numbers as your dealing with them right now.
Shame on you.
reading between the lines, this time its more serious. from the sound of it, GF is closing shop very soon and they are just trying to buy as much time as possible. 4 330's and a handful of 320's and maybe a new debt free name is the way its going to be able to privatize it.
its such a shame to see this Airline die like this.
loosing its great people is a big blow.
Mr. Magary : GF employees have names and families and a great wealth of experience, their not just numbers as your dealing with them right now.
Shame on you.
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From: Bahrain
MP warns of 'mass resignations'
MANAMA: Bahrain's national carrier Gulf Air faces mass resignations by its pilots.
"There are 20 resignations submitted by pilots to the company to date," MP Shaikh Abdulhalim Murad claimed.
He said a rival airline company was benefiting from Gulf Air's woes and had interviewed its 46 pilots, describing the potential haemorrhage as a "real boon".
Shaikh Murad, who is also Gulf Air probe committee chairman, described the alleged mass resignations as tantamount to a "big crime". He also deplored what he called a "brain drain" which is bleeding the national carrier.
"Gulf Air is losing its best national competencies while corrupt gangs continue to thrive on public money," he said.
He also criticised "contradictory statements" issued by the government, the Economic Development Board (EDB) and Mumtalakat.
"Mumtalakat chief executive said Gulf Air would be transferred to the government before announcing that it would remain under the company's authority," he said.
He also cited the EDB chief executive's statement announcing the privatisation of the national carrier within a year although such plans were previously denied.
He blamed what he called a "mess" on "random policies and hasty decision-making". He also criticised the government for failing to co-operate with the probe committee.
"Sixty questions addressed to Finance Minister Shaikh Ahmed bin Mohammed Al Khalifa remain unanswered to date," he said.
Shaikh Murad accused the government of "procrastinating to gain more time", with two months left in the fourth legislative session.
He also accused Gulf Air officials of sowing fear among employees, speaking of the need for 1,500 lay-offs, the majority of whom are Bahrainis.
MANAMA: Bahrain's national carrier Gulf Air faces mass resignations by its pilots.
"There are 20 resignations submitted by pilots to the company to date," MP Shaikh Abdulhalim Murad claimed.
He said a rival airline company was benefiting from Gulf Air's woes and had interviewed its 46 pilots, describing the potential haemorrhage as a "real boon".
Shaikh Murad, who is also Gulf Air probe committee chairman, described the alleged mass resignations as tantamount to a "big crime". He also deplored what he called a "brain drain" which is bleeding the national carrier.
"Gulf Air is losing its best national competencies while corrupt gangs continue to thrive on public money," he said.
He also criticised "contradictory statements" issued by the government, the Economic Development Board (EDB) and Mumtalakat.
"Mumtalakat chief executive said Gulf Air would be transferred to the government before announcing that it would remain under the company's authority," he said.
He also cited the EDB chief executive's statement announcing the privatisation of the national carrier within a year although such plans were previously denied.
He blamed what he called a "mess" on "random policies and hasty decision-making". He also criticised the government for failing to co-operate with the probe committee.
"Sixty questions addressed to Finance Minister Shaikh Ahmed bin Mohammed Al Khalifa remain unanswered to date," he said.
Shaikh Murad accused the government of "procrastinating to gain more time", with two months left in the fourth legislative session.
He also accused Gulf Air officials of sowing fear among employees, speaking of the need for 1,500 lay-offs, the majority of whom are Bahrainis.
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From: bahrain
not needing to mention some of the unjust decisions made like reducing the retirement benefits making them less useful especially for those employees who worked hard throughout their years in GF.
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@ Che Guevara
If u served with GF the required number of years u were entitled to:
Before:
10&11 staff:
2 id50 or 90 tickets on j and y classes
one foc ug to jc subject to availability
plus u r allowed to buy discounted tickets on other airlines which have reciprocal agreements with GF
ur children are not entitled to anything
12+ staff
UNLIMITED id 50 or 90 tickets in all cabins (FJY), spouses, and children till they reach 23 years
plus FOC tickets + discounted tickets on other airlines.
This old scheme was in itself unfair -as i said before- due to the huge gap in benefits between g11 and 12 staff
NOW:
G10 and 11 staff:
2 id 50 and 90 tickets on ECONOMY class only
and no upgrades on the FOC tickets
G12+
still get the unlimited id 50 and 90 tickets but only j and y classes.
So now the benefits scheme became more unfair, especially for grade 10 and 11 staff.
My suggestion is to go back to the original deal, or review the whole scheme again and make it more fairer. Instead of these huge gaps in benefits, there should be a gradual increase in these as the employee works his way up in the company.
If u served with GF the required number of years u were entitled to:
Before:
10&11 staff:
2 id50 or 90 tickets on j and y classes
one foc ug to jc subject to availability
plus u r allowed to buy discounted tickets on other airlines which have reciprocal agreements with GF
ur children are not entitled to anything
12+ staff
UNLIMITED id 50 or 90 tickets in all cabins (FJY), spouses, and children till they reach 23 years
plus FOC tickets + discounted tickets on other airlines.
This old scheme was in itself unfair -as i said before- due to the huge gap in benefits between g11 and 12 staff
NOW:
G10 and 11 staff:
2 id 50 and 90 tickets on ECONOMY class only
and no upgrades on the FOC tickets
G12+
still get the unlimited id 50 and 90 tickets but only j and y classes.
So now the benefits scheme became more unfair, especially for grade 10 and 11 staff.
My suggestion is to go back to the original deal, or review the whole scheme again and make it more fairer. Instead of these huge gaps in benefits, there should be a gradual increase in these as the employee works his way up in the company.
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From: Havana
gf-jr
Thanks for your explanation, I did not realize they had changed the ticketing entitlement for retired staff in such a way, not that this is a surprise these days sadly. However, it looks like first class is on it's way out anyway, if that's any consolation....
What I thought you were getting at was the end of service benefits which many are lookling at right now.
Cheers
What I thought you were getting at was the end of service benefits which many are lookling at right now.
Cheers
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From: Third sand dune on the left
Mass resignations
Source Arabian Business.com
Gulf Air facing mass pilot resignations - Transportation - ArabianBusiness.com
Gulf Air facing mass pilot resignations - Transportation - ArabianBusiness.com
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From: bahrain
Mass resignations
Source Arabian Business.com
Gulf Air facing mass pilot resignations - Transportation - ArabianBusiness.com
Source Arabian Business.com
Gulf Air facing mass pilot resignations - Transportation - ArabianBusiness.com
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From: Singapore
question:
what reasons are there to remain in gulfair?
answer:
NON
everyone knows the indicator of a good airline is the retention of pilots. management would have you think otherwise.
when pilots continue to endure deteriorating conditions in a career that is increasingly unstable, unrewarding and abusive, is it such a surprise to see pilots flee in droves?
as a member of parliament has correctly stated, this level of mismanagement is tantamount to a criminal act. heads must roll from the very top, NOT FROM THE PILOTS RANKS.
there is no more excuses, gf management. the finger is pointing at you as the culprit to this airlines demise. CUTTING CREW NUMBERS simply will not do anymore to cover up your lack of strategy, lack of vision, lack of planning and general stupidity.
what reasons are there to remain in gulfair?
answer:
NON
everyone knows the indicator of a good airline is the retention of pilots. management would have you think otherwise.
when pilots continue to endure deteriorating conditions in a career that is increasingly unstable, unrewarding and abusive, is it such a surprise to see pilots flee in droves?
as a member of parliament has correctly stated, this level of mismanagement is tantamount to a criminal act. heads must roll from the very top, NOT FROM THE PILOTS RANKS.
there is no more excuses, gf management. the finger is pointing at you as the culprit to this airlines demise. CUTTING CREW NUMBERS simply will not do anymore to cover up your lack of strategy, lack of vision, lack of planning and general stupidity.
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From: bahrain
Flydubai has announced it will start double daily flights to Kuwait City and Muscat in March, bringing its total destinations to 13. Ghaith Al Ghaith, the carrier's CEO, said 'a strong GCC network is at the heart of flydubai's strategy in this region so Kuwait and Oman were natural choices as our next two destinations'. He also said 2010 would be 'a very busy year of route announcements for the carrier'.
its pretty obvious if GF wants survive, the airline should try to aim for places away from the GCC for now..
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Gulf Air: Babyliners are Here?
So, the Babyliners are definitely on the way. In fact, probably arrived in BAH by now? Link:
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From: way down south
Want a good laugh? Read the latest pointless drivel from Mr M on mygulfair.com
It would be nice if we heard at least a tiny sqeak from Mr M more than twice a year. Otherwise we have nothing to go on but rumors.
Maybe he should at least read what his secretary writes for him before sending it out or is he so blindingly arrogant that he can't imagine that all the rumours & BS being spread around are a direct result of HIS poor or lack of communication.
Do not assume that everything you read is fact unless it is a direct quote from an official Gulf Air a spokesperson or myself and more importantly don’t let rumour and speculation interfere with your focus.
...I will provide you with as much clarification and information as possible. The key to success for us as an organization is strong communication...
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'Head on the falcon'?
Symbolizes the headless chickens in the Pink Palace!
Even the third floor realized that there was no 'head' and so they changed the title of all the 'Heads' to 'Senior Managers'.
(Actually a small one at the middle of the emblem - but it is hardly noticeble.)
Symbolizes the headless chickens in the Pink Palace!
Even the third floor realized that there was no 'head' and so they changed the title of all the 'Heads' to 'Senior Managers'.(Actually a small one at the middle of the emblem - but it is hardly noticeble.)
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From: Singapore
Not only does this negative publicity damage the company’s reputation....
but now is the time for us to take back control of our reputation and question the motives of the people who constantly criticize us and what we are striving to achieve
Do not assume that everything you read is fact unless it is a direct quote from an official Gulf Air a spokesperson or myself and more importantly don’t let rumour and speculation interfere with your focus.
Each and everyone one of you is employed by Gulf Air because of the skills you offer that will help drive this airline forward to become an airline we can all be proud of, which is commercially sustainable and dynamic airline
nope, there is nothing....nothing to be proud of this airline!!! some would say 'but we're the oldest'. i say we have nothing to show for it.
I will continue to hold a bi-monthly majlis and provide updates via Hello Gulf Air to keep you informed on the latest news, developments and achievements of the airline.
majali's only reason for this latest excuse of a letter is the embarrassment the media is causing him.